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Stay away from this HackShield infested game.

KangaroomouseKangaroomouse Member Posts: 394

They can't even implement their own security and have to use 3rd Party Trojan software. HackShield is one of the worst and i would not install it on my system unless i want multiple back doors opened.

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Glad i got a free BETA to find out.

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  • An4thorAn4thor Member Posts: 524
    One less taking land space.
  • Panther2103Panther2103 Member EpicPosts: 5,779
    I have played many games with HackShield and had absolutely no issues whatsoever. If it was that big of a deal there would be all kinds of lawsuits and no companies would use the program. I've had false positives in hackshield saying I was hacking but other than that nothing.
  • SuperNickSuperNick Member UncommonPosts: 460

    HackShield is a common software used in dozens of games. It's also used by some of the biggest MMO companies in the market including NCSoft and Nexon.

    The "controversy" comes from people who have outdated or poor AntiVirus/Firewall software that picks it up as a problem.

    Hardly a "trojan invested, backdoor opening" piece of software..

     

  • BailoPan15BailoPan15 Member Posts: 410
    Originally posted by SuperNick

    HackShield is a common software used in dozens of games. It's also used by some of the biggest MMO companies in the market including NCSoft and Nexon.

    The "controversy" comes from people who have outdated or poor AntiVirus/Firewall software that picks it up as a problem.

    Hardly a "trojan invested, backdoor opening" piece of software..

     

    NCSoft is actually using GameGuard. There's a difference. Nexon is a shitty company. 

  • DihoruDihoru Member Posts: 2,731
    Originally posted by BailoPan15
    Originally posted by SuperNick

    HackShield is a common software used in dozens of games. It's also used by some of the biggest MMO companies in the market including NCSoft and Nexon.

    The "controversy" comes from people who have outdated or poor AntiVirus/Firewall software that picks it up as a problem.

    Hardly a "trojan invested, backdoor opening" piece of software..

     

    NCSoft is actually using GameGuard. There's a difference. Nexon is a shitty company. 

    Both anti-hack programs are pretty equal. Do not get the OP though...got nothing better to complain about?

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  • SuperNickSuperNick Member UncommonPosts: 460
    Originally posted by BailoPan15
    Originally posted by SuperNick

    HackShield is a common software used in dozens of games. It's also used by some of the biggest MMO companies in the market including NCSoft and Nexon.

    The "controversy" comes from people who have outdated or poor AntiVirus/Firewall software that picks it up as a problem.

    Hardly a "trojan invested, backdoor opening" piece of software..

     

    NCSoft is actually using GameGuard. There's a difference. Nexon is a shitty company. 

    It has (and possibly still does) use HackShield for games. I guess I should have wrote "has been used in the past and potentially still is being used" but hey I didn't expect someone to throw out a pedantic reply which completely sidesteps my post in a vague attempt to feel better about their intelligence.

    Also, who really cares about your opinion on Nexon? My point was to illustrate that it's being used or has been used by successful companies.

    In any event, you just reminded me why I don't post on these forums. People like you can't even maintain a conversation about a topic this one dimensional.

    Bye!

  • CaldrinCaldrin Member UncommonPosts: 4,505

    So what are these back doors it opens ?

     

  • rounnerrounner Member UncommonPosts: 725
    Originally posted by Caldrin

    So what are these back doors it opens ?

     

     What ever backdoor the manufacturer cares to utilise, you've completely granted full access to anything you do on your computer over to their trust. If they sell your credit card info to a third party I wont be crying for you and wont care about your horror stories about how no authorities do anything about it.

  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,803
    Originally posted by SuperNick
    Originally posted by BailoPan15
    Originally posted by SuperNick

    HackShield is a common software used in dozens of games. It's also used by some of the biggest MMO companies in the market including NCSoft and Nexon.

    The "controversy" comes from people who have outdated or poor AntiVirus/Firewall software that picks it up as a problem.

    Hardly a "trojan invested, backdoor opening" piece of software..

     

    NCSoft is actually using GameGuard. There's a difference. Nexon is a shitty company. 

    It has (and possibly still does) use HackShield for games. I guess I should have wrote "has been used in the past and potentially still is being used" but hey I didn't expect someone to throw out a pedantic reply which completely sidesteps my post in a vague attempt to feel better about their intelligence.

    Also, who really cares about your opinion on Nexon? My point was to illustrate that it's being used or has been used by successful companies.

    In any event, you just reminded me why I don't post on these forums. People like you can't even maintain a conversation about a topic this one dimensional.

    Bye!

    Uhm..

    You were wrong - he corrected you.. and now you are personally attacking him?

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  • MothanosMothanos Member UncommonPosts: 1,910

    Never had a problem with hackshield using ESET as anitvirus and never ever had a warning or problem.

    You could at least give your beta account to someone who dint get one.
    Seems there are alot of people who could make good use of your account.

  • rutaqrutaq Member UncommonPosts: 428
    Originally posted by Kangaroomouse

    They can't even implement their own security and have to use 3rd Party Trojan software. HackShield is one of the worst and i would not install it on my system unless i want multiple back doors opened.

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    Glad i got a free BETA to find out.

     

    Actually leveraging Hackshield is better than writing their own.   Hackshield has it's own company and development team that doesn't use any of the game devs and network engineers.

     

    You imply that Hackshield is untrustworthy and vunerable but a quick Google search can't find any problems expect for interoperability issues with Anti Virus and Firewall software.

  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Everything i've read so far about Hackshield seems to indicate their pretty reliable, and is only for protecting MMO's from hacking, which i can only agree with. If they were dodgy at all i would imagine we would have heard something from within the industry itself, as other companies providing similar services would love to point out any flaws if only to promote their own software.image
  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Originally posted by BailoPan15
    Originally posted by SuperNick

    HackShield is a common software used in dozens of games. It's also used by some of the biggest MMO companies in the market including NCSoft and Nexon.

    The "controversy" comes from people who have outdated or poor AntiVirus/Firewall software that picks it up as a problem.

    Hardly a "trojan invested, backdoor opening" piece of software..

    NCSoft is actually using GameGuard. There's a difference. Nexon is a shitty company. 

    Both sucks is my experience, but yes, there are levels in hell....

    With some adjustment in the firewall it get' at least playable and I guess if they aren't good on security it still is better than nothing.

    It is annoying, particularly if you are bad on computers but it isn't the thing that makes or breaks a game. Cheaters, hackers and spammers are.

  • UhwopUhwop Member UncommonPosts: 1,791

    It doesn't matter what the anti-cheat software is, it's a safe bet the OP would have come here and told people to stay away because of it.  

    Its an agenda against either trion, the game, or they want to do something that the software prevents them from doing. 

  • ReklawReklaw Member UncommonPosts: 6,495
    Originally posted by Kangaroomouse

    They can't even implement their own security and have to use 3rd Party Trojan software. HackShield is one of the worst and i would not install it on my system unless i want multiple back doors opened.

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    Glad i got a free BETA to find out.

    For some reason I keep thinking this game is released.......

    Anyway you found something in BETA that hopefully is worked out in it's release version. So not really sure what excactly did you find out in BETA other then things might change?

  • AeonbladesAeonblades Member Posts: 2,083

    Not commenting for or against Hackshield as I really don't care about it being in AA, but I will say, there was a game I was playing years and years ago...Some Asian F2P MMO....I want to say it was Knight Online or something like that.

     

    Anyway, I always got a kick out of booting up the game as it had Hackshield security, and the little box said: "Hackshield: For you online game."

     

    Always got a kick out of that terrible engrish every time I booted it up.

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  • ruonimruonim Member Posts: 251
    I saw plenty games remove hackshield/game guard. Becosue they didnt protect from hacks and made game unplayable for many people.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,095
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by Kangaroomouse

    They can't even implement their own security and have to use 3rd Party Trojan software. HackShield is one of the worst and i would not install it on my system unless i want multiple back doors opened.

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    Glad i got a free BETA to find out.

    100% wrong.

    Hackshield does not open any backdoors, nor is it a Trojan.

    At least the one that comes with ArcheAge is not, I've tested it extensively in Korean and English veraions.

    Sorry OP to be so blunt, but your post is 100% lies.

     

    I wondered about this.   I had not heard HackShield was evil, could find no real issues with it in a quick search, and in my experience with it in AA I've had no trouble.

    I figured there was a bit of exaggeration and hyperbole in the OP.

     

     

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  • theNILVtheNILV Member UncommonPosts: 49
    Don't really matter what they use. Like Russians showed us the game is just too easy to bot and hack, and it can totally destroy whole economy if they can't block. And really what is chance of that happening? 0%
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  • CaldrinCaldrin Member UncommonPosts: 4,505
    Originally posted by rounner
    Originally posted by Caldrin

    So what are these back doors it opens ?

     

     What ever backdoor the manufacturer cares to utilise, you've completely granted full access to anything you do on your computer over to their trust. If they sell your credit card info to a third party I wont be crying for you and wont care about your horror stories about how no authorities do anything about it.

    best you stay away from the internet then... infact best you dont use a mobile phone with a market place or any kind of website that you put credit card details into.. no infact best stay away from technology..

     

     

  • XatshXatsh Member RarePosts: 451

    Hack shield is annoying and sometimes will throw a false positive on a virus scan every one in  a blue moon but it is safe to use.

    On whether it works... There are teleport bots, flying bots, ah bots, and gathering bots in AA in the NA. And RU version is flooded with bots. So yea the program is not stopping anything. If someone is a good enough hacker/coder they can easily get around the program and make a bot.

  • seafirexseafirex Member UncommonPosts: 419

    Hackshield is not a virus or trojan etc...  But i can understand some that don't like it because of it using resources and if something goes wrong at install with it, it can be a pain after that to run the game properly. But it is not a virus or a trojan what so ever.

    If you dont like to use hackshield just google search how to disable it, there is tons of websites that shows how to run your games without it even if they use hackshield.  I can't post the sites names or link them here but do a search. Then you will be able to play AA without hackshield  :)

  • DarLorkarDarLorkar Member UncommonPosts: 1,082
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by Kangaroomouse

    They can't even implement their own security and have to use 3rd Party Trojan software. HackShield is one of the worst and i would not install it on my system unless i want multiple back doors opened.

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    Glad i got a free BETA to find out.

    100% wrong.

    Hackshield does not open any backdoors, nor is it a Trojan.

    At least the one that comes with ArcheAge is not, I've tested it extensively in Korean and English veraions.

    Sorry OP to be so blunt, but your post is 100% lies.

     

    Me i could care less about either game or hackshield, but just  tell us, O  oracle,   how you would know what the program does AFTER giving it permission to get onto your system? And who wrote it? Why do, or did, some virus programs give warnings?

     

    Seems it was from a South Korean company so, yup, they are using a 3rd party's software.  So not a lie.

     

    Be careful throwing around absolutes.  not 100% wrong after all was it? 

     

    Any program you allow to run and tell your protection to allow, is a risk, period. There, that's an absolute that is true:)

     

    To the rest, all of us are guilty of going overboard a bit at times, but lets try not to go too far and call folks liars.

     

     

  • Dagon13Dagon13 Member UncommonPosts: 566
    Originally posted by ruonim
    I saw plenty games remove hackshield/game guard. Becosue they didnt protect from hacks and made game unplayable for many people.

    I'm having punkbuster flashbacks...

  • GravargGravarg Member UncommonPosts: 3,424

    The problem people have with HackShield is that it's a seperate program and not built into the game like most AAA MMOs.  What it basically does is open a port for the game and monitors everything and anything using that door, to stop bots, hacks, etc.

     

    The only real problem is this can be used by hackers as a back door while you're playing, if they do something that HackShield doesn't deem wrong, but it usually doesn't  matter.  Since the hacker needs to know the port, and it's only open as long as HackShield is open.  This works on any game that has even built in software as well.  The only way to be 100% hack proof is to not be online in the first place...

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