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Black desert is a nice breeze of change

MaurgrimMaurgrim Member RarePosts: 1,331
edited April 2016 in Black Desert Online
Yes I do know this game is not for everyone, that you can say to pretty much every game that has been made for the past 30 years.
For me I feel for the first time in many years a game I can enjoy in my own pace, I don't really have to bumrush to 50 to enjoy the game, I don't have to do this or that to compete, I don't have to run dungeons and raids to get items that will get obsolete anyway in the next x-pack.

I can play how I like, I have as of now built my own noble wagon, a fishing boat, doing allot of cooking for personal use and selling, I craft weapon and armour to sell, I decorate my home, I farm mobs when I feel like it and I do quests when I feel like it.

I love the mini games with conversations yes even the cow, there is so much for me to enjoy I really don't feel I have to follow a set pattern, I play how I like.

And with the cash shop, no I haven't paid a cent in that shop and I don't really feel like at this time doing so, sure perhaps in the future if there are items that seems interesting then I might buy it.

And the best part, It's buy to play with this massive feature list for just buying the game with expansions for free  I'm all set for the rest of the year and beyond.

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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489
    "A breeze of change" or "a fart in the wind", we shall continue to monitor the situation over the next 18 months and get back to you on that one. 
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  • BurntCabbageBurntCabbage Member UncommonPosts: 482
    Tiller said:
    "A breeze of change" or "a fart in the wind", we shall continue to monitor the situation over the next 18 months and get back to you on that one. 
    crop dusted by paywall lol
  • LigiLigi Member UncommonPosts: 119
    Couldn't agree more with OP. Playing since release and I really think this game is a step forward on the mmorpg genre after a  decade of copy/paste games.

    I play mmorpgs since 1999 with EQ (Kunark) and since then I never encountered a game that would make me happily log everyday as BDO does.




  • Talon_DeathravenTalon_Deathraven Member UncommonPosts: 46
    I like when people say ''This game is not for everyone'' :)).Maybe try to say that not all people like this game because lots of reasons and that means they actually don't want to play ,not that the game is not for them.
  • Leon1eLeon1e Member UncommonPosts: 791
    I made a fishing boat myself. /o/  it's gr8 m8 i r8 8/8

    I could've sold it for 1.5kk :V but i'm rich i don't need money /o/
  • RomeoRomeoRomeoRomeo Member UncommonPosts: 48
    DMKano said:
    Leon1e said:
    I made a fishing boat myself. /o/  it's gr8 m8 i r8 8/8

    I could've sold it for 1.5kk :V but i'm rich i don't need money /o/

    Why boats cant be repaired in BD is something that players have been asking since Korean beta.....

    Seems so weird to go through all that effort only to realize that you'll have to do it again because boats lose durability and go bye-bye

    We can repair wagons - why can't we repair boats?
    The game is about the journey, not the conclusion. Honestly, everybody happily playing in game doesn't care about the boat durability. It takes ages of non stop boat use for it to deplete, by the time you should have resources for your next one.

    People are enjoying making the boats, not just being given one or buying one. 

    Nobody cares about servers dying down. In your previous post you asked what happened?

    It's quite obvious.

    All the people who couldn't adjust their way of playing/thinking or who don't like sandboxes, open world pvp or complex systems went back to their themepark gear and dungeon treadmills waiting for the next big MMO to launch that they will again leave in time for the next WoW expansion.

    There's nothing wrong with that. The people left in BDO want to be there. It's a lot less toxic and contested now.


  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489
    DMKano said:
    Leon1e said:
    I made a fishing boat myself. /o/  it's gr8 m8 i r8 8/8

    I could've sold it for 1.5kk :V but i'm rich i don't need money /o/

    Why boats cant be repaired in BD is something that players have been asking since Korean beta.....

    Seems so weird to go through all that effort only to realize that you'll have to do it again because boats lose durability and go bye-bye

    We can repair wagons - why can't we repair boats?
    The game is about the journey, not the conclusion. Honestly, everybody happily playing in game doesn't care about the boat durability. It takes ages of non stop boat use for it to deplete, by the time you should have resources for your next one.

    People are enjoying making the boats, not just being given one or buying one. 

    Nobody cares about servers dying down. In your previous post you asked what happened?

    It's quite obvious.

    All the people who couldn't adjust their way of playing/thinking or who don't like sandboxes, open world pvp or complex systems went back to their themepark gear and dungeon treadmills waiting for the next big MMO to launch that they will again leave in time for the next WoW expansion.

    There's nothing wrong with that. The people left in BDO want to be there. It's a lot less toxic and contested now.


    I enjoy the game but what in the actual f*** are you talking about not toxic? Lmao the forums are the worst i have seen SOE pushed the nge on swg players back in the day.

    I've even seen people threatening physical harm to each other..over a game. Channel chat is full of a bunch of annoying muppets with nothing better to do than spam stupid pointless crap like one guy who wanted to talk about how poop water splashed his balls. If someone asks a valid question they are met with yo mamma jokes...a few guys tried to recruit for a white supremacy guild. All this within the last few days.

     I would rather deal with gold seller spam tbh. To top all that off they want to add voice chat which im sure will be filled with nothing but "the most annoying sounds ever", burping, farting and sqeakers. 

    I currently like the game but you aren't gonna see me shill blindly for it. Maybe someday it might have a decent community but that time is not now.

    I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say your first mmo ever was....ummmm WoW?  You must have a real high tollerance for bullshit. You would have to if you grew up in that game. I don't. I'm old and cranky and can't be bothered with it so a turn off chat and play in silence.
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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489
    ^  bosses in this game are a disaster lol. what the hell happened? It's like they have the ao of a boss made 16 years ago. I was pretty pissed at how lame it was when i got  to one of these world bosses.
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  • LacedOpiumLacedOpium Member EpicPosts: 2,327
    edited April 2016
    Tiller said:

    The game is about the journey, not the conclusion. Honestly, everybody happily playing in game doesn't care about the boat durability. It takes ages of non stop boat use for it to deplete, by the time you should have resources for your next one.

    People are enjoying making the boats, not just being given one or buying one. 

    Nobody cares about servers dying down. In your previous post you asked what happened?

    It's quite obvious.

    All the people who couldn't adjust their way of playing/thinking or who don't like sandboxes, open world pvp or complex systems went back to their themepark gear and dungeon treadmills waiting for the next big MMO to launch that they will again leave in time for the next WoW expansion.

    There's nothing wrong with that. The people left in BDO want to be there. It's a lot less toxic and contested now.


    I enjoy the game but what in the actual f*** are you talking about not toxic? Lmao the forums are the worst i have seen SOE pushed the nge on swg players back in the day.

    I've even seen people threatening physical harm to each other..over a game. Channel chat is full of a bunch of annoying muppets with nothing better to do than spam stupid pointless crap like one guy who wanted to talk about how poop water splashed his balls. If someone asks a valid question they are met with yo mamma jokes...a few guys tried to recruit for a white supremacy guild. All this within the last few days.

     I would rather deal with gold seller spam tbh. To top all that off they want to add voice chat which im sure will be filled with nothing but "the most annoying sounds ever", burping, farting and sqeakers. 

    I currently like the game but you aren't gonna see me shill blindly for it. Maybe someday it might have a decent community but that time is not now.

    I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say your first mmo ever was....ummmm WoW?  You must have a real high tollerance for bullshit. You would have to if you grew up in that game. I don't. I'm old and cranky and can't be bothered with it so a turn off chat and play in silence.

    I 100% agree with the above.  

    That said, its an OWPvP game, what exactly did anyone expect???

    The worst in PvP players from prior OWPvP games like AA, EVE, Mortal Online, Darkfall, etc., have all converged on this game making BDO one of the worst of all MMORPG communities.  Kano's post regarding thinning servers is correct.  But his reason for why they are thinning is far from correct, but he won't tell you the truth because it goes against his agenda.  He will blame on world bosses and "faceroll" PvE, and repetition and never mention the real truth why BDO is failing.  I, however, will not hesitate to tell you the truth ... and that reason is OWPvP and its rude and obnoxious fail communities!

    This is nothing new people.

    As I've stated before, BDO will go down in flames for the same reason all of these OWPvP games have gone down in flames.  There is a battle raging on the BDO forums since the game began with PvE voices, 50% of the BDO community, screaming to be heard that have gone largely ignored by Daum, and it will be their undoing.  The state of their forum brings us back to the above post, and ironically matches Kano's post regarding dying servers ...

    OWPvP and the rude, toxic and obnoxious PvP-centric nature of BDO and the fail communities it breeds will kill the BDO!

    It's already happening.  Like many of the games featuring the same fail OWPvP formula of the past, the PvE community is beginning to make their exit from BDO, and that is largely the result of what we are seeing with their thinning servers.  The servers will pick up again for a bit after every new patch release but they will quickly die out soon after because why? ... Because OWPvP happened, along with the fail communities they breed.  BDO is going down in flames just like the rest of the games that have focus featured on this "OWPvP after a set level" fail MMORPG game play concept that has been plaguing the MMORPG genre for the past several years.  

    Some of you, and especially the pro OWPvP-centric among us, may not like what I am saying, but mark this post, for I speak the truth.

    It's just a matter of time people.  Wait for it, because sure as flies on shit ... it's coming. 




  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    edited April 2016
    Maurgrim said:
    Yes I do know this game is not for everyone, that you can say to pretty much every game that has been made for the past 30 years.
    For me I feel for the first time in many years a game I can enjoy in my own pace, I don't really have to bumrush to 50 to enjoy the game, I don't have to do this or that to compete, I don't have to run dungeons and raids to get items that will get obsolete anyway in the next x-pack.
    If you just chose not to care about being competitive, like you did with BDO, you can do that in any game....

    BDO is no different from any other mainstream title in that regard.
  • blastermasterblastermaster Member UncommonPosts: 259
    edited April 2016
    DMKano said:

    Why boats cant be repaired in BD is something that players have been asking since Korean beta.....

    Seems so weird to go through all that effort only to realize that you'll have to do it again because boats lose durability and go bye-bye

    We can repair wagons - why can't we repair boats?
    What I think is strange here is that, if you go to the smith, there is an option to "Repair Boat".. It's just that the smith is always to far from your boat to do it... they can't have that option in there for nothing now right? Someone actually took the time to put a button with an anchor icon stating "repair ship"...

    Do you guys know of a smith that is close to the water? Could be that there is only one smith in the whole world equipped to repair ship?

    ---

    I agree with you guys (@Jean-Luc_Picard and @LacedOpium).  This is one of the few gripes I have with the game so far.

    Also, the community can go from decent enough to lowest of the low in a matter of seconds... I really need to get myself a good guild to disable General Chat completely..
  • Kane72Kane72 Member UncommonPosts: 211
    Tiller said:
    DMKano said:
    Leon1e said:
    I made a fishing boat myself. /o/  it's gr8 m8 i r8 8/8

    I could've sold it for 1.5kk :V but i'm rich i don't need money /o/

    Why boats cant be repaired in BD is something that players have been asking since Korean beta.....

    Seems so weird to go through all that effort only to realize that you'll have to do it again because boats lose durability and go bye-bye

    We can repair wagons - why can't we repair boats?
    The game is about the journey, not the conclusion. Honestly, everybody happily playing in game doesn't care about the boat durability. It takes ages of non stop boat use for it to deplete, by the time you should have resources for your next one.

    People are enjoying making the boats, not just being given one or buying one. 

    Nobody cares about servers dying down. In your previous post you asked what happened?

    It's quite obvious.

    All the people who couldn't adjust their way of playing/thinking or who don't like sandboxes, open world pvp or complex systems went back to their themepark gear and dungeon treadmills waiting for the next big MMO to launch that they will again leave in time for the next WoW expansion.

    There's nothing wrong with that. The people left in BDO want to be there. It's a lot less toxic and contested now.


    I enjoy the game but what in the actual f*** are you talking about not toxic? Lmao the forums are the worst i have seen SOE pushed the nge on swg players back in the day.

    I've even seen people threatening physical harm to each other..over a game. Channel chat is full of a bunch of annoying muppets with nothing better to do than spam stupid pointless crap like one guy who wanted to talk about how poop water splashed his balls. If someone asks a valid question they are met with yo mamma jokes...a few guys tried to recruit for a white supremacy guild. All this within the last few days.

     I would rather deal with gold seller spam tbh. To top all that off they want to add voice chat which im sure will be filled with nothing but "the most annoying sounds ever", burping, farting and sqeakers. 

    I currently like the game but you aren't gonna see me shill blindly for it. Maybe someday it might have a decent community but that time is not now.

    I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say your first mmo ever was....ummmm WoW?  You must have a real high tollerance for bullshit. You would have to if you grew up in that game. I don't. I'm old and cranky and can't be bothered with it so a turn off chat and play in silence.
    I'm not seeing this at all. Any time I've asked a question people are helpful. I think you see the negativity if you hope to see it so you can report it in your negative manner.
  • PottedPlant22PottedPlant22 Member RarePosts: 800
    Kano is absolutely right about the boat durability.  IMHO- it is not worth the effort and energy specifically to make anything right now without the option to repair the damn thing.  The raft is worth it, but also a pain in the arse to control.
  • Kane72Kane72 Member UncommonPosts: 211
    PottedPlant22 said:
    Kano is absolutely right about the boat durability.  IMHO- it is not worth the effort and energy specifically to make anything right now without the option to repair the damn thing.  The raft is worth it, but also a pain in the arse to control.
    Kano is absolutely right about the boat durability.  IMHO- it is not worth the effort and energy specifically to make anything right now without the option to repair the damn thing.  The raft is worth it, but also a pain in the arse to control.
    I agree the raft is a piece of cake to make and for the sake of going afk whilst you get to some destination it's better than taking time to build an items that will eventually disappear from sight when the durability is zero - especially with it's time and cost in comparison.
  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829
    Gdemami said:
    Maurgrim said:
    Yes I do know this game is not for everyone, that you can say to pretty much every game that has been made for the past 30 years.
    For me I feel for the first time in many years a game I can enjoy in my own pace, I don't really have to bumrush to 50 to enjoy the game, I don't have to do this or that to compete, I don't have to run dungeons and raids to get items that will get obsolete anyway in the next x-pack.
    If you just chose not to care about being competitive, like you did with BDO, you can do that in any game....

    BDO is no different from any other mainstream title in that regard.
    Probably part of the reason I'm not among the ranks of those constantly bemoaning the death of the genre, and why I'm still having fun on the games I play. :sunglasses: 

    My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)

    https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/

  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489
    Kane72 said:
    Tiller said:
    DMKano said:
    Leon1e said:
    I made a fishing boat myself. /o/  it's gr8 m8 i r8 8/8

    I could've sold it for 1.5kk :V but i'm rich i don't need money /o/

    Why boats cant be repaired in BD is something that players have been asking since Korean beta.....

    Seems so weird to go through all that effort only to realize that you'll have to do it again because boats lose durability and go bye-bye

    We can repair wagons - why can't we repair boats?
    The game is about the journey, not the conclusion. Honestly, everybody happily playing in game doesn't care about the boat durability. It takes ages of non stop boat use for it to deplete, by the time you should have resources for your next one.

    People are enjoying making the boats, not just being given one or buying one. 

    Nobody cares about servers dying down. In your previous post you asked what happened?

    It's quite obvious.

    All the people who couldn't adjust their way of playing/thinking or who don't like sandboxes, open world pvp or complex systems went back to their themepark gear and dungeon treadmills waiting for the next big MMO to launch that they will again leave in time for the next WoW expansion.

    There's nothing wrong with that. The people left in BDO want to be there. It's a lot less toxic and contested now.


    I enjoy the game but what in the actual f*** are you talking about not toxic? Lmao the forums are the worst i have seen SOE pushed the nge on swg players back in the day.

    I've even seen people threatening physical harm to each other..over a game. Channel chat is full of a bunch of annoying muppets with nothing better to do than spam stupid pointless crap like one guy who wanted to talk about how poop water splashed his balls. If someone asks a valid question they are met with yo mamma jokes...a few guys tried to recruit for a white supremacy guild. All this within the last few days.

     I would rather deal with gold seller spam tbh. To top all that off they want to add voice chat which im sure will be filled with nothing but "the most annoying sounds ever", burping, farting and sqeakers. 

    I currently like the game but you aren't gonna see me shill blindly for it. Maybe someday it might have a decent community but that time is not now.

    I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say your first mmo ever was....ummmm WoW?  You must have a real high tollerance for bullshit. You would have to if you grew up in that game. I don't. I'm old and cranky and can't be bothered with it so a turn off chat and play in silence.
    I'm not seeing this at all. Any time I've asked a question people are helpful. I think you see the negativity if you hope to see it so you can report it in your negative manner.
    I do see it, and it's mostly around primetime and on weekends. I don't just make stuff up; I call it how I see it.

    The forums are a different story, lots of hostility there over the PvE/PvP battle and it won't change till a large exodus happens; which I see coming due  to the fact that the hostiles are calling for a large group of players "to just leave then" and Daum does not seem interested in getting involved or making a statement. You can go to their forums and look at those threads yourself. xD




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  • primaloozeprimalooze Member UncommonPosts: 21
    Couldn't agree more with OP.  Having more fun than i have in years... For me its better than the last 6 or 7 mmo's ive played and even though im not enthused by PvP at all i think i will be happy to to keep my character below 45.. still more than worth the money it cost to buy.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    edited April 2016
    DMKano said:
    The fishing boat takes a TON of resources and has low durability - so come back to me after you've gone through about 4 fishing boats how fun it is to make them. The vast majority of players (Korean, RU and now NA/EU) have been asking for a way to repair boats - as they are not finding it so much fun making them over and over again.



    Low durability? I do a lot of fishing and my fishing boat, after 1 month's worth of use, is still at over 90% durability. Was that what you meant by low? 

    In a few month's time, when I need to replace it, I can either get my workers to gather the mats or, easier yet, for ~ 500K silver I can buy all the mats off the marketplace and make another one.

    Your post is actually ridiculous in both, the low durability and implied hassle of replacing.

    I don't think you've either made or used one or you would know this. 
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  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    Enjoy the game OP.

    I see that hate is still strong.  :o
  • yucklawyersyucklawyers Member UncommonPosts: 240
    I don't actually understand why Daum had to change the game from the KR/JP/RU versions. Taking out the level 50 quest that enabled PVE'ers to avoid PVP, and lowering the ganking level from 50 to 45 is what has caused all the problems.

    You can't avoid level 45 because even life skills give you a surprising amount of levelling experience, so PVE'ers are being forced over 45 and into ganking against their will.

    Knowing how dreadful Daum are now, I am not surprised they would make such counter-productive decisions, but slowly but surely, the PVE crowd are crafting/life-skilling themselves over 45, being ganked and (a lot) leaving. Already the servers are beginning to thin out.

    You only have to read the thread(s) on the forum to see this is a problem.

    Daum's response? Burying their head in the sand.

  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489
    lol look how angry their community gets over something so lighthearted and humorous...

    http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/70529-☼pvp-and-pve-eliminate-them☼/

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  • ArChWindArChWind Member UncommonPosts: 1,340
    Enjoy the time you have right now for it will fade as time passes.
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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489
    Tiller said:
    lol look how angry their community gets over something so lighthearted and humorous...

    http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/70529-☼pvp-and-pve-eliminate-them☼/

    Yeah, sadly there's a lot of people posting there and playing that game who have an IQ lower than the one of an oyster... that's the plague of OWPVP games.
    You know whats funny? If you look at BDOs main site no where does it mention owpvp as the selling point, despite what the pk fans say lol. I wonder how many people will learn this the hard way.
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  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662
    If they ever decide to make some channels or servers where owpvp is limited to guild wars or flagging for it I'm sure many wouldn't mind reaching endgame instead of stalling.

  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489
    edited April 2016
    Bloodaxes said:
    If they ever decide to make some channels or servers where owpvp is limited to guild wars or flagging for it I'm sure many wouldn't mind reaching endgame instead of stalling.
    I think the forums are starting to level out a bit more. I'm noticing more posts about how frustrating it is being locked from game progression due to guilds owning all the grind spots across all channels and more people agreeing with the issue and less personal attacks about being carebear. One person suggested playing between 4am and 5am...really? wtf? People are now hitting 55 and leaving the game lol. Broken game is broken.
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