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For all you people arguing about WoW...

I thought it would be interesting to figure out who is the majority... the WoW haters or the WoW lovers.  SO i devised a little poll... HEHEHE.


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  • RazorbackRazorback Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 5,253

    Im a lover 

    Currently playing casually. 39 Orc Warrior on Steamwheedle Cartel (Grokl) look me up 

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  • SnaKeySnaKey Member Posts: 3,386

    The WoW lovers just don't argue because they know it's a hopless cause.

    They play the game because it's mind numbing. I can't blame them, maybe if I still smoked weed I would like WoW. Just zone off into another world for hours on end doing absolutely nothing.

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  • WolfjunkieWolfjunkie Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 985
    I voted for STFU and stop arguing!

    'Tis be a pointless topic.
    Besides, there are 7.000.000 WoW players, yet only.. 400.000 or so users, or old users, second account, forgotten accounts.. It wouldn't paint a proper picture.


  • sacred_bandsacred_band Member Posts: 104
    i dont hate WoW itself, its an ok game, passes time. I do hate the idea that it seems to influence up and coming games so much though, like i said I dont hate it but 1 WoW is enough, everything anounced for the next 100 years seems to want to be "the next WoW" like WoW is the game all others must be measured by
  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    Most fans don't even bother. its the most popular mmorpg, so the most hated.

    just point out the facts, and all haters will be quiet.




    Also SnaKeY, stop the mind numbing comment. MMORPG's have been like that since Everquest, and WoW is no diffrent, heck, what do you think those 30 seconds lasting combat in EVE (+ another 10~20 seconds just to pick up your loot) is? if your theory was correct, EVE would now be the most popular mmorpg to date.
  • RazorbackRazorback Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 5,253


    Originally posted by SnaKey

    The WoW lovers just don't argue because they know it's a hopless cause.
    They play the game because it's mind numbing. I can't blame them, maybe if I still smoked weed I would like WoW. Just zone off into another world for hours on end doing absolutely nothing.


    Geez.....

    picked me like a snotty nose.....

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  • nomadiannomadian Member Posts: 3,490
    I'm neither, WoW is a decent game but lacking in many areas which you could be better served by other mmorpgs. What I dislike is perhaps more are the people who make arguments about WoW which negate what WoW actually is and that applies to both WoW-lovers and WoW-haters.

  • LignerLigner Member Posts: 59

    It is obvious answer really.

    WoW is oriented on the majority type of players who hated old concept of MMOs. hard core players of WoW are usually good at FPSs and other similar type of games. For them it has good solid gameplay which is what rest of us need to respect and accept.

    However, for us (gamers, of first MMOs, who groved the genre, who had met friends for life in those games, who has been playing them for over 10 years) it is primitive, linear time waste. Not to abuse anyone, but just to point that WoW is not targeted to meet OUR expectations. It is different and apeal to a different audience and it has been successfull in achieving that goal.

    There is only ONE thing I can say that I hate about WoW:
    It made most of the developers to turn away from working on the improvement of the old concept and design similar clones of WoW believing that it IS successful gameplay system.

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  • HadesprimeHadesprime Member Posts: 303


    Originally posted by Ligner


    There is only ONE thing I can say that I hate about WoW:
    It made most of the developers to turn away from working on the improvement of the old concept and design similar clones of WoW believing that it IS successful gameplay system.


    Wrong. WoW is a copy of EQ1 with two basic changes to its design core.

    1) Blizzard believe that people grew tired of EQ1's pointless grind. So they made a PVE system that is packed full of quests to mask the grind... but thats all they did. WoW is fun the first time around. But the 2nd time around and the end game are usually game killers

    2) They adopted EQ1's end game raiding concept because they believed that would satisfy the hard core gamer.

    What we see today are EQ1 clones and not WoW clones. The two statements above have been adopted by just about every MMO out there and were being adopted before WoW came along.
  • GrindPlzGrindPlz Member Posts: 147
    i voted for stfu and stop agruing

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  • mightyfelixmightyfelix Member Posts: 13
    I dont hate WOW, I just dont like the game simple as that
  • StewkerStewker Member Posts: 35




    A poll like that will never give us a true picture either, especially on a site like this. Where WoW hate and WoW love have a 2:1 ratio respectivily. Current subscription numbers and market shares are the only thing that really tells us that more people enjoy wow rather than hate it.





  • GroggGrogg Member UncommonPosts: 41


    Originally posted by bongo123


    Originally posted by SnaKey

    The WoW lovers just don't argue because they know it's a hopless cause.
    They play the game because it's mind numbing. I can't blame them, maybe if I still smoked weed I would like WoW. Just zone off into another world for hours on end doing absolutely nothing.

    thats priceless coming from someone that flys around in his little spaceship in the blandness of space either mining or engaging in combat by clicking on a little dot and hoping he has better blasters... yeah thats not mindnumbing in the slightest, hell no amount of drugs could ever make a game like eve remotely fun to play and i should know, ive tried em all.



    Thanks, that was perfect. I was going to say the same thing.

    I tried Eve ... twice. It is different, but it is absolutely mind numbing boring.


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  • sly220sly220 Member UncommonPosts: 607

    WOW not going so well on the polls as of 44 votes

    But hey i hate the game

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  • RoinRoin Member RarePosts: 3,444


    Originally posted by Hadesprime

    Originally posted by Ligner


    There is only ONE thing I can say that I hate about WoW:
    It made most of the developers to turn away from working on the improvement of the old concept and design similar clones of WoW believing that it IS successful gameplay system.

    Wrong. WoW is a copy of EQ1 with two basic changes to its design core.

    1) Blizzard believe that people grew tired of EQ1's pointless grind. So they made a PVE system that is packed full of quests to mask the grind... but thats all they did. WoW is fun the first time around. But the 2nd time around and the end game are usually game killers

    2) They adopted EQ1's end game raiding concept because they believed that would satisfy the hard core gamer.

    What we see today are EQ1 clones and not WoW clones. The two statements above have been adopted by just about every MMO out there and were being adopted before WoW came along.


    Actually you are also partly wrong.  WoW is only 1/3rd clone of EQ.  It is also 1/3rd DAOC, and 1/3rd AO.   Blizzard took the time to steal quite a bit of the more popular features from those games.

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  • binary_0011binary_0011 Member Posts: 528
    not wow again.....................zzzzzzzzzz

  • RK-MaraRK-Mara Member Posts: 641
    STFU already about WoW. I don't hate it, I don't love it but I surely hate all this kind of topics. Just use search if you want to know what people think.

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  • LignerLigner Member Posts: 59


    Originally posted by Hadesprime

    Originally posted by Ligner


    There is only ONE thing I can say that I hate about WoW:
    It made most of the developers to turn away from working on the improvement of the old concept and design similar clones of WoW believing that it IS successful gameplay system.

    Wrong. WoW is a copy of EQ1 with two basic changes to its design core.

    1) Blizzard believe that people grew tired of EQ1's pointless grind. So they made a PVE system that is packed full of quests to mask the grind... but thats all they did. WoW is fun the first time around. But the 2nd time around and the end game are usually game killers

    2) They adopted EQ1's end game raiding concept because they believed that would satisfy the hard core gamer.

    What we see today are EQ1 clones and not WoW clones. The two statements above have been adopted by just about every MMO out there and were being adopted before WoW came along.



    Yes you are right. WoW have very little original content and most of it as you said clone of EQ1. Just mind that I didnt mean to say that Blizzard INVENTED the gameplay. My point is that their success (which for other developers simple determined by the number of game accounts) made Blizzards commpetitors to go in the same direction as WoW. The bottom line is that EQ1's worse parts of gameplay wouldn't have as much impact as it has now, since they are targeted hard cor gamers mainly, if it would not be because of WoW.

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  • sacred_bandsacred_band Member Posts: 104


    Originally posted by Hadesprime

    Originally posted by Ligner


    There is only ONE thing I can say that I hate about WoW:
    It made most of the developers to turn away from working on the improvement of the old concept and design similar clones of WoW believing that it IS successful gameplay system.

    Wrong. WoW is a copy of EQ1 with two basic changes to its design core.

    1) Blizzard believe that people grew tired of EQ1's pointless grind. So they made a PVE system that is packed full of quests to mask the grind... but thats all they did. WoW is fun the first time around. But the 2nd time around and the end game are usually game killers

    2) They adopted EQ1's end game raiding concept because they believed that would satisfy the hard core gamer.

    What we see today are EQ1 clones and not WoW clones. The two statements above have been adopted by just about every MMO out there and were being adopted before WoW came along.


    i think ligner and i were meaning the same thing, not that WoW was groundbreaking and invented MMOs, but that its success as a fairly generic game is unfortunately leading developers to create a third wave of generic games, if it wasnt for WoW exploding, EQ clones on the horizon for 07 wouldnt be recharged

     I liked EQ for a little while, and i tried WoW and it was ok, but we dont need 100 more of them named "guild world of evercraft 34: this time the clouds are slightly different!"

  • norse25norse25 Member Posts: 98
    WoW is a fantastic way to get into MMO's IMO.  It offers a lot of fun to new gamers while they are leveling their characters.  Advanced players may like WoW, but they are raiders.  I'm not knocking raiding, although it isn't my cup of tea, but the UBER end-game is for 4 hour dungeaon crawls.  One more thing to add...if you have a good guild, WoW can be lots of fun.

    It's tough to compare WoW with something like EVE.  EVE is great because you get out of it what you put into it.  It is not as easy of a game to pick up, but if you're willing to put the time in, then you will probably never leave.  


  • wormstlawormstla Member Posts: 42

    like wow but hate wow..

    well, I'm just waiting patiently till wowkiller comes out but haven't seen one yet..

    vanguard? I don't think so...

    AL? hell no...

    WAR? may be may be not .. not sure yet..

  • LignerLigner Member Posts: 59


    Originally posted by wormstla

    like wow but hate wow..
    well, I'm just waiting patiently till wowkiller comes out but haven't seen one yet..
    vanguard? I don't think so...
    AL? hell no...
    WAR? may be may be not .. not sure yet..


    Heh, I feel your pain my friend.

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  • SonofSethSonofSeth Member UncommonPosts: 1,884

    I don't hate WoW, I just don't like EVE!

    Hey diddle diddle, mucus and the spittle...

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  • TinybinaTinybina Member Posts: 2,130


    Hate WOW or Love WOW you have to give it to them..

    Name one other MMORPG that was in beta and had no NDA....

    Name one other MMORPG that would be so cofident about there product that they dropped the freaking NDA way before beta was over.

    As far as I know they are the only MMORPG to do that so far out before release. Maybe its because they new they had something special on there hands..


    Only things I think WOW failed at were BS pointless PVP and Raiding!@!!..

    Thats why I feel WAR is going to become the new WOW, it is being built up around PVP (RVR hell ya!!) and doesn't look to be as Raid dependent.




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