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SOE developer and publisher of Vanguard?
Mandy
Member Posts: 132
Its looking like SOE is both the developer and publisher of vanguard I hope im wrong and its not. If so you can count on a CU then alter a NGE.
This link shows the game as SOE developing and publishing it is this correct?
http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=646556
http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=646264
If so im not going to even bother to try it.
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go to www.vanguardsoh.com and look under the faqs. Lots of people were concerned with SOE being involved, and the faqs address all your worries.
Not so nice guy!
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I have playd SWG 2,5 years.
I have lost both my master professions with the NGE.
Still: making panick because of SOE is completly irrational. SOE is as good or bad as any big game company.
Despite the desasters I have faced in SWG, you really should end this fixation on SOE. Just a piece of friendly advice.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Maybe you could find the answer you are looking for on the last thread you posted in with this same topic:
http://mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/877225#877225
hmm seems a bit trollish....
it seems to me that even without your previous conversation, common sense would tell you that the first source of info would be the developer's site and the publishers site.. looking to any retailers site for info would be akin to asking a walmart employee who a developer/publisher is, you could get lucky and actually find one that knows but most likely they would not.
on a side note, just out of curiosity, does being banned from one SOE game automatically ban you from all SOE games? I am admittedly a bit ignorant when it comes to these sort of things. but it may explain your paranoia of this being an SOE game since you say you were banned from SWG..
~Aruvia~
Ok Since SOE is So great How about EQ2 IT got a CU also. So did planet side, SWG did also as we all know. SO your going to tell me that SOE is so great and Vanguard doesn't face the same fate?
I find that a little hard to believe after seeing every other game SOE has its hands in that Vangaurd is safe form it.
and FYI I've not seen other game companys total remake the game 6 months a year and so on after its out and everyone had time to get settled in to the characters they had.
SO go for it if you like getting CU's and NGE's
your all starting to sound pathetic
Hello new person to the forums. I trust you'll enjoy your stay.
Since I'm wearing my civility hat today, I'll just tell you that SOE is only publishing the game. Sigil has complete control over the intellectual property that is Vanguard. The only thing SOE has control over is servers and box art, which if I may say so they are really quite good at.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Hello new person to the forums. I trust you'll enjoy your stay.
Since I'm wearing my civility hat today, I'll just tell you that SOE is only publishing the game. Sigil has complete control over the intellectual property that is Vanguard. The only thing SOE has control over is servers and box art, which if I may say so they are really quite good at.
Sorry but look at my registered date "Registered: 8/13/03" and look at yours "Registered: 8/12/04"
Im not new here infact your more new then me, by a whole year. So before you try to flame someone make sure you know what your talking about.
OH yes im such a troll, thats why I have 63 post before this one and i've been a member of this site over 3 years.
in reguards to that post over 3 and a half months ago that you are reffering to, that was before vanguard was posted on stores and stuff with SOE as both dev and publisher.
SO go flame else were, if you don't like my post don't read them. I wasn't talking to you or directing any questions to you. who is the troll now?
Im banned from SWG? I don't remember ever getting banned from SWG. me and my guild and everyone else i know left when NGE came, NO bann to it. like 1000s of other people.
You need to make sure you know what your talking about before you try to flame someone. Go troll else were.
Anyone can make trollish posts. It doesn't take a low post count or recent join date to do so.
Anyways, here are some places you can find the answer to. I'm sure there are plenty more.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Who+is+Vanguard%3A+Saga+of+Heroes+developer%3F
http://www.vanguardsoh.com/faq.php
Hello new person to the forums. I trust you'll enjoy your stay.
Since I'm wearing my civility hat today, I'll just tell you that SOE is only publishing the game. Sigil has complete control over the intellectual property that is Vanguard. The only thing SOE has control over is servers and box art, which if I may say so they are really quite good at.
Sorry but look at my registered date "Registered: 8/13/03" and look at yours "Registered: 8/12/04"
Im not new here infact your more new then me, by a whole year. So before you try to flame someone make sure you know what your talking about.
Forgive me, I was only being cordial as I did not notice your join date. Just so you know, I wasn't flaming you in any way, shape or form. No need to be so defensive. My point about SOE still stands, take care.
Hello new person to the forums. I trust you'll enjoy your stay.
Since I'm wearing my civility hat today, I'll just tell you that SOE is only publishing the game. Sigil has complete control over the intellectual property that is Vanguard. The only thing SOE has control over is servers and box art, which if I may say so they are really quite good at.
Sorry but look at my registered date "Registered: 8/13/03" and look at yours "Registered: 8/12/04"
Im not new here infact your more new then me, by a whole year. So before you try to flame someone make sure you know what your talking about.
Oh come on, dont spring at everyones throat just because of some small joke.
And on topic, I wasnt happy with everything SOE did in SWG or EQ2, but I have played MANY MMOs, and SWG and EQ2 have much, much more and better content that was changed or cut than ANY other MMO ever HAD in it - safe WOW which is just another class of game.
No, even with all the bad days I surely had with playing SOE games, I had so many GOOD in SWG and EQ2, they surely do not deserve that harsh verdict. An NO I DONT work for SOE or anyone.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
OH yes im such a troll, thats why I have 63 post before this one and i've been a member of this site over 3 years.
in reguards to that post over 3 and a half months ago that you are reffering to, that was before vanguard was posted on stores and stuff with SOE as both dev and publisher.
SO go flame else were, if you don't like my post don't read them. I wasn't talking to you or directing any questions to you. who is the troll now?
Im banned from SWG? I don't remember ever getting banned from SWG. me and my guild and everyone else i know left when NGE came, NO bann to it. like 1000s of other people.
You need to make sure you know what your talking about before you try to flame someone. Go troll else were.
heh..
my assumption about you being banned was not just pulled out of thin air. as it was you that said in this post that you were banned by SOE. now after reading it again you may have meant thier forums or you may have just been trying to be "cool" no way for me to know for sure.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/567896#567896
Reguardless of the number of posts you have made or even the quality of your posts I said this post was a bit trollish not that you are a troll.
I mean trollish in the fact that you created a thread with a question you already knew the answer to or at the very least could have confirmed easily with the sole intention of complaining about SOE as you have already done in this thread thus validating my point.
and yes you did address me, as you addressed everyone who frequent these boards, by creating a thread in the forums that we all read and post in you are addressing all of us.
However with that said, I will return to my normal policy of ignoring Trollish threads. so please by all means carry on I will, going forward, let it be.
~Aruvia~
why this thread has not been already locked is beyond me, it is a know fact that soe isn't developing vanguard. anything you need to know about it can be found here
How about a few FAQ quotes so we can get this all down and figured out folks?
SoE cannot touch the gameplay.
What we have done is become the publishers of our own game. We now have
even more control and authority over Vanguard, how it is made, how it
is designed, and how it is marketed than we ever had with Microsoft.
I realize there are lots of different feelings about SOE and their
games. But whatever those feelings, the fact of the matter is that they
know operations and distribution. They will make sure our beta runs the
way it needs to, that our game is widely marketed, and that our game is
available all over, in all channels.
That is SOE's role in this new partnership with them. Sigil remains
Sigil, able to focus now moreso on what we do best -- design,
implement, conduct betas, build community, and market.
Vanguard will not leave the dream and visions of Sigil and its current
developers. I give you my word. And this move insures that the above
remains true by giving us total authority over the design of the game,
community, customer service, etc.
To put your mind at ease.. this is Sigil's game and it's staying that
way. Brad and the Sigil team have done a phenomenal job.. they don't
need any gameplay advice.
SOE is not buying Sigil. Sigil remains Sigil.
I left SOE years ago because I wasn't in a position to be hands on making games anymore. That's why Sigil was founded.
Selling out would put me back in the same place I was before: not
making games. Making MMOGs makes me happy. I love Vanguard and intend
to see the game through, long past launch. We have so much planned for
the game after launch -- I've hinted at much of it.
Why would I do anything to jeoprodize what I have now? This new deal
now even gives us (which includes me) even MORE authority and autonomy.
This makes me even happier.
Seriously, think about what you are saying -- it doesn't make sense and it doesn't fit my track record and personality.
SOE owns distribution, marketing, data center operations, and
*technical* support (ie - when you have trouble installing the client,
or a scratched disk from the retail box).
Sigil owns everything related to development, in-game customer service, live teams, and on-going content development.
And the relationship is setup, both organizationally and financially, to reinforce those roles.
We actually did account for this ... what people need to realize is
that the over structure of the new publishing arrangement will enable
us (Sigil) to make Vanguard a fundamentally better game. We are now in
complete control of the budget, the schedule, etc.
We would ask people to, at least, take a wait and see approach ... if
we end up breaching your trust with the quality of the game or its
on-going operation - then you have every right to tell us to "talk to
the hand".
Is that clear enough now?
The page I got it all from.
Don't reply to say that it is all unbelievable and that Sigil and SOE are lying...we've heard it all before and the general conclusion is that the specific poster, who does so, is talking junk.
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To sum it up for the people that do not want to read thru the entire thread.
Sigil Games Online (SGO) = Developer
Sony Online Entertainment (SOE) = Publisher
I'd also read the post above mine, as it has an excerpt from the Vanguard FAQ.
you are wasting your time my friend, the soe-haters don't care about all that stuff.... they only care that soe is involved in some way, shape, or form.
they were so emotionally attached over SWG or some other soe game they played (i am not singling anyone out, just speaking in general here) that now they have made it their personal mission....a crusade if you will to do whatever they can to hurt soe witch hurt them.
when people post things like "soe is involved so ofcorce it will flop" or something along those lines it really means "i am butthurt over SWG and i am here to troll and spread misinformation because soe hurt me
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everyone knows (at least people that follow the game) that vanguard is being developed by sigil and sigil only, and the information is easy to find.
the people that still believe that soe has anything to do with the development are either misinformed or are blind by their hatred for soe and are just here to purposely spread misinformation.
so if i were you i would try to ignore those type of posts witch i know is hard to do, there are alot of these types of posters that are not interested in vanguard in the least...they are only interested in bashing soe.
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...what's a nolifer?
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