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Helios
miagisan
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needs his forum access taken away from him. Then he needs to be fired and placed outside with a sign on his chest saying "i helped destroy SWG" and then hire competent devs
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which he doesn't think much at all me thinks
Helios is working for us even though he doesn't know it.
Think of him as being the retarded son placed in management by the boss of a rival company. He helps you more than he helps them.
But if you listen to that interview closely when he describes why he can't disclose certain information , And why things we and they would like added to the game . Are not being added . It gives a pretty clear picture of where this game is being crushed . It is purely upper management , Helios has been a part of SWG since very early on . He may have opinions that differ from your's or mine . But at the same time he knows the playerbase , Though often times he seems condescending . I think he really wants you to enjoy this game , Really why wouldn't he ?
This game has no chance for one reason , LA . Take the reason Spice is not being added to smuggling . I am not saying spice is the maker or breaker here, But their reasoning is that it may not be appropriate for the game and its intended audience . Do you think helios dosen't realize the player base is much older than what LA perceives them to be ? After that interview I gained respect for Helios yet lost all for SOE , And LA . This game is doomed, it may not die totally .But with goals such as this ,And Their(LA's) Intended focus.This game has no chance of returning to its original quality .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I hate listening to interviews over the internet, but I might have to listen to this one.
Strangely enough, I lost most of my respect for LA with episode 2, after a substantial dip with episode 1. Designing SWG around the prequels definately didn't help the game in my opinion.
No offense because I really understand where you are coming from. But I have to ask have you ever worked at a game company? He has producers that tell him what will be done. Lucas Arts has the final say on everything. I hope Lucas Arts will say "classic servers". No offense bro- it ireally is just about Lucas Arts and not us.
But if you listen to that interview closely when he describes why he can't disclose certain information , And why things we and they would like added to the game . Are not being added . It gives a pretty clear picture of where this game is being crushed . It is purely upper management , Helios has been a part of SWG since very early on . He may have opinions that differ from your's or mine . But at the same time he knows the playerbase , Though often times he seems condescending . I think he really wants you to enjoy this game , Really why wouldn't he ?
This game has no chance for one reason , LA . Take the reason Spice is not being added to smuggling . I am not saying spice is the maker or breaker here, But their reasoning is that it may not be appropriate for the game and its intended audience . Do you think helios dosen't realize the player base is much older than what LA perceives them to be ? After that interview I gained respect for Helios yet lost all for SOE , And LA . This game is doomed, it may not die totally .But with goals such as this ,And Their(LA's) Intended focus.This game has no chance of returning to its original quality .
Seeing the light I see.
There is more but all I will say is your right and then some.
I have used up my free get out of crap card already here for a NGEr that did not believe me.
I have one left I am saving, also -- there is some betas and crap I got myself into that I can't discuss now.
On the other hand, today being on the SOE boards does nothing but prove to me that this game is done.
Not only is the direction fucked up, but let's face it... if you like the NGE it's because of things coming back --
NOT things in it. Bottom line, this failed, people are seeing it, using logic and are now coming to terms with it.
After Helios and his crap talk, I know how people feal, go read the SOE boards.
Not one GS or one Fanboi can tell me that people are happy in the game, happy about it's direction and happy about it's success.
Saying we told people so, is a bit to much.... it took so far 4 more months they I thought this would last before someone delcared it a "mistake" ---
So far so good.
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I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
If I ever had an doubts about maintaining my post-NGE boycotting Lucas Arts products, the comment about Spice not being appropriate for the game has renewed my resolved to not play their games.
I've said it many times on ventrilo...Star Wars games could be 10x better if LA wasn't involved. Bioware could make some amazing SW games, but LA will always be there to muck it up. I mean: much of the NGE was in the name of being "more Star Warsy". If you don't think that came from LA, you're kidding yourself.
I dislike $OE as much as the next guy, but much of the SWG fiasco blame rests squarly on LA. Releasing the game that still needed another 2-6 months of beta? All LA. Scrapping the in depth and unique Jedi system for the 8 random profession grind? You guessed it: LA! Like Jedi or not, if done correctly...it could have added to a great game. Instead they went a long way towards killing it. I heard about a ton of the amazing development that got scrapped by LA.
I should blacklist LA along with the already blacklisted EA and $OE...but for some reason I like the SW story too much and I keep going back to loving KOTOR (not KOTOR 2, that was another LA forced beta).
So SOE, LA and everyone there is good at poor decisions you say? That doesn't exonerate Helios, it just means he fits in well.
KOTOR2 was a fantastic game. Where it went wrong was LA rushed it out to be out before the Holidays, so Obsidian had to leave out the ending they wanted and throw together the crappy one they put in. Game companies need to go by Id's motto. "We'll release the game when it's DONE...not to make a deadline."
Whoever is making the Superman game due out seems to be following this mantra. The fact it wasn't rushed out along with the movie is a good sign the game won't suck.
KOTOR2 was a fantastic game. Where it went wrong was LA rushed it out to be out before the Holidays, so Obsidian had to leave out the ending they wanted and throw together the crappy one they put in. Game companies need to go by Id's motto. "We'll release the game when it's DONE...not to make a deadline."
Whoever is making the Superman game due out seems to be following this mantra. The fact it wasn't rushed out along with the movie is a good sign the game won't suck.
I agree, the game was fantastic except for the cut content. A lot was cut and the at the end of the game it is painfully obvious. I have played KOTOR 3-4 times and just recently forced myself to play KOTOR2 for the second time with a bunch of team-gizak patches in.
Nasedoo: You said traders would get a revamp under my supervision.
Darth Lord Blixtev: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
*thinks*???
You're giving him way too much credit there.
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So, you all sat in camps and that was fun?
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Proud Master CH -
Sorry,
Proud FORMER Master CH...
my toon was untimely converted into something more Star Warsy
Just an observation, isn't it the job of a con artist to get the target/mark to believe what he's saying? Helios has been less than honest with the playerbase on more than one occasion.
I don't believe anything he says for that reason.
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Zadox - Chilastra 12/1/03-6/3/05 Master Rifleman, Master Scout, Master Ranger.
"You mean you just logged in and played SWG back then and had fun?!!"