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Age of Consent should be should be raised to 18 nationally.
lardmouth
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There ya go folks, just as the subject suggests. Maybe 17 at the least. Yes, this is related to the Foley scandle. Just curious to compare some replies here to statements in the Foley post.
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People used to get married in this country at age 13. I know we live longer now and society is different, but it's just a consideration when talking about people's intellectual levels.
Frankly, I think all age requirements (except those requiring an aspect of mentality not aquired until later on) should be lowered to 16. Including voting. I would like to say 14, but I realise that the majority of teens are not truely aware of their surroundings at that age. 18 as an age of consent is a complete travesty and a totally unworthy use of police time to enforce it. By that standard, as a 16 year old guy totally capable of consenting to sex if I want it, if I date a girl who is 18 (been there, done that) I'm not allowed to have sex with her, or she will face charges. Completely ridiculous imho. She's clearly not sleeping with me because i'm immature and she gets off on that kind of thing... Anyone can tell you that... I also dont know what the situation is in the State, but in the UK, at 16 we can be imprisoned - so an 18 y/o age of consent would result in people being charged for having sex with people over the age of consent whilst they themselves are under it. Also completely ridiculous.
Time to rant.
I hate the fact that most adults refuse to respect a younger persons authority purely on the basis that they are younger (and visa versa, i.e. they expect authority purely because they are older.) The 'been there, done that' aspect of life is totally irrelevant. Fact is, older generations than mine may well have 'been there and done that', but they sure as hell fucked it right up. Authority and respect are earnt. It's funny that those same adults that won't accept our authority are also the ones pushing that line, as well as 'with respect comes responsibility'. I'd like to see what has been done with the responsibility adults have due to the respect they supposedly command. Fuck all is what. Dont get me wrong... I'm no deviant. I don't have a trophy cabinet for my ASBOs. I dont vandalise, I dont drink in public, I dont do drugs, I dont spit at police officers, I dont throw things at my teachers. I will not however, look anyone in the eye as my equal (or superior) if they believe that position is inherent to them because of their age, social standing, or career.
Someone will argue with my point above about 16 year olds voting with the 'but they aren't mature enough', or 'dont know what's going on in the world.' A very significant majority of 'adults' are in exactly the same position though. Do you know what they do? They obstain. They don't go to vote, and as such, they don't influence elections. Alternatively they get sucked in by media hype and vote what they think they want - which is entirely the point of democracy. A lot more 16+ year olds will know a lot more about politics and things in the world if it mattered a damn to them. Do you think people just suddenly get an inbuild desire to keep up to date with current affairs when they turn 18 because they've been on the earth for 6573-4 days? No, they keep up to date because their opinion counts. At 16, our opinions generally mean f*ck all, so instead, we just keep on going down our paths as 'dissidents', 'enjoying our youth', as it were. If we could actually do a damned thing about world affairs, we'd know more about what's happening. In the same way, if our views mattered to the politicians, they'd do more to make us come to vote, and we'd be drawn into politics like that also.
No more time to rant... Blood pressure's raising
And I see sorta where your coming from but not with an adult.... How do we define adult? Good Question.
--When you resubscribe to SWG, an 18 yearold Stripper finds Jesus, gives up stripping, and moves with a rolex reverend to Hawaii.
--In MMORPG's l007 is the opiate of the masses.
--The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence!
--CCP could cut off an Eve player's fun bits, and that player would say that it was good CCP did that.
Just curious lardmouth, why should the AoC be 18? That would not only be stupid, but wouldnt work. No law can actually stop people from having sex before the AoC, it is only really used in statutory rape cases.
Laws involving sodomy piss me off even more than, who the hell do people think they are to say what two consenting adults can and cannot do in the privacy of their own home?
I think the AoC for Drinking should be 18.
I think the AoC for sexual intercourse with an adult (18 and above) should be 17, 16 is just too young, sorry.
I think the AoC for voting should be the age of the youngest person tried as an adult.
I think the AoC for driving should be 16.
I think the AoC for employment should be 16.
I think the AoC for contracts should be 18.
And I think I'm going to play AoC...
--When you resubscribe to SWG, an 18 yearold Stripper finds Jesus, gives up stripping, and moves with a rolex reverend to Hawaii.
--In MMORPG's l007 is the opiate of the masses.
--The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence!
--CCP could cut off an Eve player's fun bits, and that player would say that it was good CCP did that.
I have to agree that there should be a national age of consent, but I think that 16 should be the age...16 is too old to be able to say you didn't know what you were doing.
Psyco, just curious, why so old for the military? Wouldn't that be too old for people who wish to persue that career straight out of high school? Thus resulting in a lot of people just sitting around waiting to get into the military?
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
It's more for the 19 yearold guy with an apartment to pick up the 16 year old girl
--When you resubscribe to SWG, an 18 yearold Stripper finds Jesus, gives up stripping, and moves with a rolex reverend to Hawaii.
--In MMORPG's l007 is the opiate of the masses.
--The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence!
--CCP could cut off an Eve player's fun bits, and that player would say that it was good CCP did that.
I didn't need no damn online timer for the Olsen Twins. They were already legal.
1- I believe schooling, Technical/College should be garunteed the same as Highschool.
2- I don't think people in their late teens understand the commitment the millitary (or any other profession for that matter) requires.
AND- Hell to be a cop you need to be 21, why not the same with the millitary?
--I would also raise the age for police by a year as wel, so 22...
--When you resubscribe to SWG, an 18 yearold Stripper finds Jesus, gives up stripping, and moves with a rolex reverend to Hawaii.
--In MMORPG's l007 is the opiate of the masses.
--The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence!
--CCP could cut off an Eve player's fun bits, and that player would say that it was good CCP did that.
AND- Hell to be a cop you need to be 21, why not the same with the millitary?
quite true...I've never been able to figure that one out myself...perhaps they think that 18 year olds lack the maturity or life experience that 3 years magically imparts? Sounds like when auto insurance companies suddenly lower your rates when you turn 25 O_O
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
My 4 years atleast makes some sense because in it you will be expected to gain a trade-skill or college education.
--When you resubscribe to SWG, an 18 yearold Stripper finds Jesus, gives up stripping, and moves with a rolex reverend to Hawaii.
--In MMORPG's l007 is the opiate of the masses.
--The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence!
--CCP could cut off an Eve player's fun bits, and that player would say that it was good CCP did that.
Regarding Age of Consent, I consider the following.
At 12-14, we have pubescent kids that are capable of breeding. This age was not uncommon for marriage until somewhere in the past two hundred years or less. Some nations have age of consent laws as low as 12. Canada's age of consent is 14, although legislation is being pushed through to raise it to 16.
At 16, we allow kids to drive cars. These are multi-ton metal beasts that can be very dangerous in the wrong hands. This is also the age of consent in many states.
At 18, we can conscript kids into military service, giving them fully automatic weapons and demanding they kill other people. They can also purchase a legal drug that is harmful regardless of the amount used, tobacco. This is also a generally universal age of consent, a 50 year old can have sex with an 18 year old and be within the law, even if it's considered creepy.
At 21, we can purchase and consume alcohol legally, and gamble in certain areas.
If we look at age of consent in terms of physical maturity, we could lower it to 14. If we look at age of consent in terms of mental maturity, I'd be hesitant to place it as low as 21, and I definitely would see many people who were never qualified.
So, we come up with an arbitrary compromise. 18, age of majority. Old enough that plenty have tried it already anyhow, young enough that few of them are really ready for it. It's the best we can do, regulating such behavior is shaky ground as it is.
The age of consent should be 16... I don't know why, just saying.
As for other things, people should have to pass a test before they're allowed to do them. Take age out of the picture, just put a test. If you never pass the test, you're never mature enough to handle whatever that test was assigned to.
I wonder how low a state could set the age of Consent before the Federal Government, or something, stepped in and said "Woah! Uh-uh."?
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
I believe in louisiana when every other state in the union had turned the drinking age to 21, louisiana stayed at 18. They were blackmailed saying that if they didn't change the law they would not recieve any federal funds what-so-ever. If that answered that question.
I hope some day we can all put aside our racisms and prejudices and just laugh at people
Depends on what they're testing for. You know, like, for driving tests, they could have some of the same stuff, just without the age limits. I don't know, just something that relates to the subject.
Oh, and thanks cornoffcob. I didn't even realize they were allowed to do that.
Depends on what they're testing for. You know, like, for driving tests, they could have some of the same stuff, just without the age limits. I don't know, just something that relates to the subject.
Oh, and thanks cornoffcob. I didn't even realize they were allowed to do that.
I say that before every election that you have to answer the same question before you are allowed to vote: What does the first amendment state?
no i think the age of consent is fine at 16 or 17, 14 is too low.
for christs sake by the age of 16 or 17 you can already be in credit card debt, your deciding what college to go to, you can drive.
why the hell shouldn't you be able to decide if you can have sex or not........
i mean driving is stastically a bigger risk then sex is, especially with condom use.
so if their educated on the matter then why not.
mine you i dont believe in sex until a almost marital point....
98% of the teenage population does or has tried smoking pot. If you''re one of the 2% who hasn''t, copy & paste this in your signature.
no i think the age of consent is fine at 16 or 17, 14 is too low.
for christs sake by the age of 16 or 17 you can already be in credit card debt, your deciding what college to go to, you can drive.
why the hell shouldn't you be able to decide if you can have sex or not........
i mean driving is stastically a bigger risk then sex is, especially with condom use.
so if their educated on the matter then why not.
mine you i dont believe in sex until a almost marital point....
You can get a credit card at age 16? Snap.
Oh, and what do you consider "near marital point?" Second date?
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no i think the age of consent is fine at 16 or 17, 14 is too low.
for christs sake by the age of 16 or 17 you can already be in credit card debt, your deciding what college to go to, you can drive.
why the hell shouldn't you be able to decide if you can have sex or not........
i mean driving is stastically a bigger risk then sex is, especially with condom use.
so if their educated on the matter then why not.
mine you i dont believe in sex until a almost marital point....
You can get a credit card at age 16? Snap.
Oh, and what do you consider "near marital point?" Second date?
near marital point simple means you love the person, are willing to do anything for them, and you are both mature enough to not let sex have control of you.
like it does so many males my generation who do everything to get laid.
that being said ive been with my girlfriend nearly two years, and have no intentions of ruining a perfectly good relationship with a complication.
mind you im already causing enough complications right now, due to certain tendencies ive relapsed to im living at her house right now, and she's pissed at me.......
but she still loves me.
And with credit cards, you can but your parents have to also be on it but it still affects your credit....
and if you screw up it goes on your parents credit also....
98% of the teenage population does or has tried smoking pot. If you''re one of the 2% who hasn''t, copy & paste this in your signature.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
i disagree with porn, ive never looked at porn, searched for it, and i leave when it comes out.
deviant sexual fantasies like that aren't my gig and i believe lead to chovanistic attitudes against women.
im talking about alcholol.
98% of the teenage population does or has tried smoking pot. If you''re one of the 2% who hasn''t, copy & paste this in your signature.