Vanguard 37 screenshots

Dimitrio · October 2006

http://www.veguild.org/forums/showthread.php?t=221

enjoy.

exanimo · October 2006

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nice , that looks good , im going to read more about that game

acmtalk · October 2006

It looks nice, however, with SOE involved, I will stay way from it.

exanimo · October 2006

yeah , screen shots looked great , but then i saw the movie , combat looks ridiculus
bad animation movements , i hope they improve that , for their own good

Rayx0r · October 2006

animations

lets just say.. yes theyre aweful and extremely dated. as far as everyone bashing SOE and what not, at least in their games the animations look great.. especially in EQ2. Granted, some of the emote animations leave a lot to be desired.

in some aspects, it would do vanguard a lot of good if some of the SOE development team was more involved. unfortunately that wont happen.

so ya, the animations in vanguard are pretty ameteurish.. and in a nutshell suck

*edit* and im not basing this on videos, im basing it on "other" experiences..

JAttractive · October 2006

Originally posted by Rayx0r
animations
lets just say.. yes theyre aweful and extremely dated.

so ya, the animations in vanguard are pretty ameteurish.. and in a nutshell suck *edit* and im not basing this on videos, im basing it on "other" experiences..

Let's just say .... I agree.

Hopefully they will improve the animations and character models before release.

Dimitrio · October 2006

Originally posted by acmtalk
It looks nice, however, with SOE involved, I will stay way from it.

Becareful with the name you choose then, SOE or Sony is involved in
most of the strong mmorpgs for the next year and looks like that will
be for 2008. I honestly hate SOE CS, but if there's something I
remember was the good CS while Brad and the rest of the original devs
of EQ team were there. Did you play EQ back those days? I hope so
because it was the golden days of EQ in my humble opinion.

The only reason I am interested in Vanguard more than ever, even after SOE Involment, Is that Sigil is taking the fulll intelectual control over Vanguard, that's first. Second because sigil is also in charge of the Customer Service aswell and that my friend means good ingame and out of game support. Don't be dissapointed because of SOE, I know SWG players might be totally angy, but you need to realize that SOE was in charge of EQ, SWG development and they have total control over their titles, except maybe SWG since Lucas Arts tends to be a real tyrane with their SW saga. I actually belive that Lucas Arts is more responsible of SWG fiasco, if you don't believe me, then look around for what they did with a toy company.

Anofalye · October 2006

All bottleneck ending in raiding.

Nope, no thanks. Never again. Raiding = dead game. *covering ears before peoples spat some LIES about choice while in fact, you HAVE to raid if you want to be progress in grouping pass a point*

Raiding is a death wish!

Dimitrio · October 2006

Originally posted by neoteo
yeah , screen shots looked great , but then i saw the movie , combat looks ridiculus
bad animation movements , i hope they improve that , for their own good

I don't think they look ridicoulous, I saw model moving a spear like never seen before in any mmorpg. Nevertheless they need to improve the animations and brad said at FoH forums that they will. I think the real beta will be beta four, when they will finishing the work, checking for possible bugs in previous fixes.

I think the only thing wrong with the animation is that they look slow, they should be a little faster or just maybe I am wowIdiotized

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Dimitrio · October 2006

Originally posted by Anofalye
All bottleneck ending in raiding. Nope, no thanks. Never again. Raiding = dead game. *covering ears before peoples spat some LIES about choice while in fact, you HAVE to raid if you want to be progress in grouping pass a point* Raiding is a death wish!

He He, thats's from your perspective, not from mine since I am a raid oriented gamer. I have above 5 mmorpgs played and I have never seen a mmorpg without raid content. And by the way those game I played with raid content still are alive: EverQuest, World of Warcraft, EverQuest 2, Lineage, etc.. Still are alive. I think you want to raid but don't have the time to raid, just my opinion. What you call progress? can you define it for me?

Anyway I will describe you my concepts of Progression:

1. Learning a new area is a progression.
2. Getting a new level is a progression.
3. Raising my crafting skills is progression.
4. Making better armor for my character, using my tradeskills abilities is progression.
5. Raising my faction with an especif race, group or clan, is progression.

Depend of your perspective or the way you see the things.

Resetgun · October 2006

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Well.... if you compare them to Crysis screenshots, they are far behind.

I don't think that it graphics are top selling point for any MMORPG. Vanguards graphics are: ok. Not super or great, but they are good enough. More important features in MMORPGs are what ways players can interact with environment and each other. Vanguard really have some cool features in those areas, like ships, housing, character customization and complex crafting. Hopefully those are slowly going to be standard in other games also.

Unfortunately SOE is also getting profits from the Vanguard, so it is big no for me (It really doesn't matter can SOE screw up Vanguard. Only thing that matters is that they are getting profit from it.)

Good luck Sigil and Vanguard players.

Apocalyptica · October 2006

I will try it out like all the others. But I do not find the screenie amazing now. Hope the gameplay will be good.

Anofalye · October 2006

Originally posted by Dimitrio
He He, thats's from your perspective, not from mine since I am a raid oriented gamer. I have above 5 mmorpgs played and I have never seen a mmorpg without raid content. And by the way those game I played with raid content still are alive: EverQuest, World of Warcraft, EverQuest 2, Lineage, etc.. Still are alive. I think you want to raid but don't have the time to raid, just my opinion. What you call progress? can you define it for me?

Anyway I will describe you my concepts of Progression:

1. Learning a new area is a progression.
2. Getting a new level is a progression.
3. Raising my crafting skills is progression.
4. Making better armor for my character, using my tradeskills abilities is progression.
5. Raising my faction with an especif race, group or clan, is progression.

Depend of your perspective or the way you see the things.

Once I would have acquire all these, and only raiding remain...the issue will arise again. And we all know I will get there WAY too early (1 month most likely, 2 at most). And all the games you list would have done better without raiding. Despite the fact it receive no recent update, Diablo is still strong and kicking, and it is older than all the games you mention.

And you are seriously mistaken. As a main chanter for some uber guilds in the past... I will NEVER raid again, unless it is not enforced on other gameplays (this mean no single best reward, unless it is good only inside raids, completely useless outside)...and this is a fleeting maybe at best.

Not to mention that raiding guilds are jerking out of group on regular basics, answering a "call to arm" regardless of their grouping engagements. Anyone belonging to such a guild should warn, at the moment ANYONE join group with them of the fact they will possibly drop the group for other in game achievements, at any moment, regardless of the group's situation. If you don't see the problem with the "best geared characters" dropping groups for other in-game achievements, you have no grouping understanding. "Best geared characters" have to be example, acting nicely, supporting, not jerking out. This attitude alone is unacceptable.

The gameplays I am solely interested in are 6 players or less at any given time. Any game enforcing more is going to be discarded.

exanimo · October 2006

Originally posted by Dimitrio

Originally posted by neoteo
yeah , screen shots looked great , but then i saw the movie , combat looks ridiculus
bad animation movements , i hope they improve that , for their own good

I don't think they look ridicoulous, I saw model moving a spear like never seen before in any mmorpg. Nevertheless they need to improve the animations and brad said at FoH forums that they will. I think the real beta will be beta four, when they will finishing the work, checking for possible bugs in previous fixes.

I think the only thing wrong with the animation is that they look slow, they should be a little faster or just maybe I am wowIdiotized .

im just saying from the movie in the official webpage , i didnt see anything else

i love the screenshots , but the movement seamed like bizarre carton anime

Dimitrio · October 2006

What Forced you to raid? Nothing forced me.

I played Paladin, Cleric, Warrior, Wizard and ranger in the case of EverQuest and I decided what I wanted to do with them. They were my raid toons, but I also played monk, shaman, Shadow Knight as my non raiding toons. Some people thinks that you are forced to do something and that's not true, you choose what to do and when to do it. Some people believe they always need to raid to get better gear and that's nothing else than a HUGE lie, maybe in some games you need to raid to get the BEST gear, but not to get better gear. You might be thinking, this man is

insane.

But the tue afterall, is "if you do a little of reasearch, you will fnd big surprises". You can't imagine how pissed I was when I found there was a belt obtained by doing a quest with 15% of haste v.s. my 10% haste obtained from a velious raid encounter.

But I understand your point, afterall the non raid content have a limit. But guess what, raid content also is limited and is always less than the rest of the content. Because afterall you need to level up and get group gear before you actually start raiding encounters.

tinga · October 2006

Uhm... I don't know much about this game but to me these graphics look
very similar to Everquest II and Star Wars Galaxies, it's that certain
sort of artificial look like if everything was coated in brilliant
varnish, everything looks so hyperrendered, sterile and absolutely not
alive.

This is a no go for me, I'd rather play a game with far "less quality"
graphics if it just looks a bit "unclean", fluent and especially
doesn't seem to get into a brawl with my computer... games what make my
puter crash and hurt him... These games are in big trouble if they
don't make it to escape from the dvd-rom drive before I get them into
my claws! *scratches dvds*

Dimitrio · October 2006

Originally posted by neoteo

im just saying from the movie in the official webpage , i didnt see anything else

i love the screenshots , but the movement seamed like bizarre carton anime

Believe me, I am huge anime (japanimation) fan, and it don't look like anime, not at all. If you use a bittorrent client,I recommend you to download the videos from http://www.vanguardarchive.eu, look from the older videos to the new videos, also download the character creation video.

If you don't have any bitorrent client download http://www.utorrent.com

Dimitrio · October 2006

Originally posted by tinga
Uhm... I don't know much about this game but to me these graphics look very similar to Everquest II and Star Wars Galaxies, it's that certain sort of artificial look like if everything was coated in brilliant varnish, everything looks so hyperrendered, sterile and absolutely not alive.

This is a no go for me, I'd rather play a game with far "less quality" graphics if it just looks a bit "unclean", fluent and especially doesn't seem to get into a brawl with my computer... games what make my puter crash and hurt him... These games are in big trouble if they don't make it to escape from the dvd-rom drive before I get them into my claws! *scratches dvds*

The graphics are a lot better than EQ2 graphics, there are some screenshots comparing each other. And check the videos from the current beta, they look alive. But what I am waiting for is beta 4 videos.

acmtalk · October 2006

Originally posted by Dimitrio
Originally posted by acmtalk
It looks nice, however, with SOE involved, I will stay way from it.

Becareful with the name you choose then, SOE or Sony is involved in most of the strong mmorpgs for the next year and looks like that will be for 2008. I honestly hate SOE CS, but if there's something I remember was the good CS while Brad and the rest of the original devs of EQ team were there. Did you play EQ back those days? I hope so because it was the golden days of EQ in my humble opinion.

The only reason I am interested in Vanguard more than ever, even after SOE Involment, Is that Sigil is taking the fulll intelectual control over Vanguard, that's first. Second because sigil is also in charge of the Customer Service aswell and that my friend means good ingame and out of game support. Don't be dissapointed because of SOE, I know SWG players might be totally angy, but you need to realize that SOE was in charge of EQ, SWG development and they have total control over their titles, except maybe SWG since Lucas Arts tends to be a real tyrane with their SW saga. I actually belive that Lucas Arts is more responsible of SWG fiasco, if you don't believe me, then look around for what they did with a toy company.

Yeah, EQ was great back in the time, And then SOE managed to mess it up ass well, I am sorry, but there others out there. Afeter I played COV, I saw the diference between Ncsoft and SOE, SOE is like Sony, They SUX and I don't see they changing their policy till something really bad happens, They don't care about their costumers.

Dimitrio · October 2006

Yeah, EQ was great back in the time, And then SOE managed to mess it up ass well, I am sorry, but there others out there. Afeter I played COV, I saw the diference between Ncsoft and SOE, SOE is like Sony, They SUX and I don't see they changing their policy till something really bad happens, They don't care about their costumers.

Again, is all about your perspectives, I had and still have bad experience with NcSoft, but that doesn't mean you will or someone else will. SOE back those day, was excellent. And I bet SIGIL is going to have a good Customer Service for their game. I think they will do anything to make their flagship almost perfect.

Pantastic · October 2006

Originally posted by Dimitrio
I think you want to raid but don't have the time to raid, just my opinion.

What in the name of God gave you the idea that Anofalaye wants to raid?

Dimitrio · October 2006

Originally posted by Pantastic
Originally posted by Dimitrio
I think you want to raid but don't have the time to raid, just my opinion.

What in the name of God gave you the idea that Anofalaye wants to raid?

Sorry, I made my conclusions too early. Anyway that is his point of view, which in my opinion is far away from the true. You can just continue doing more quests or grouping or start a new toon, without twinking it, will give him and anyone a lot of fun.

exanimo · October 2006

Originally posted by Dimitrio

Originally posted by neoteo

im just saying from the movie in the official webpage , i didnt see anything else

i love the screenshots , but the movement seamed like bizarre carton anime

Believe me, I am huge anime (japanimation) fan, and it don't look like anime, not at all. If you use a bittorrent client,I recommend you to download the videos from http://www.vanguardarchive.eu, look from the older videos to the new videos, also download the character creation video.

If you don't have any bitorrent client download http://www.utorrent.com

ohhh , i didnt mean to compare with japan anime , sigh , have to be carefull chosing words here ::::05::

i mean the movement is BAD , im not saying it looks like anything else , its just weak movement.

I DONT LIKE IT , but i love the scenario

Dimitrio · October 2006

ohhh , i didnt mean to compare with japan anime , sigh , have to be carefull chosing words here i mean the movement is BAD , im not saying it looks like anything else , its just weak movement.I DONT LIKE IT , but i love the scenario

YES, don't mess with Anime, he he. Anyway after each beta stage the games looks better. The next beta stage will be the stage for the hard work.. finish kojan, check for bugs and tweak what is done, I just can't wait to see beta four videos.

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