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New and Upcoming MMORPG! DEVs needed here!

Team name:
Al|corp

Project name:
Secrets of Alchemy

Brief description:
Our project is just getting started with it's production as of a few days ago. We are in search of dedicated game DEVs who will help us to accomplish our goal. Our team is hoping to make a great MMORPG inspired by the hit anime, Full Metal Alchemist. Although this is based on Full Metal Alchemist, that does not mean you have to know much about the anime at all (unless you would like to be a writer), so please do not worry about that. We are hoping to have the alpha out in about a year, and open beta out in about 2 years (however, this is just a brief estimation). However, with very hard workers, we could be done with the DEVing of the game even earlier.

Target aim:
To create a Full Metal Alchemist-inspired MMORPG that will make the gaming experience more enjoyable for all of our gamers.

Compensation:
I am not sure if we will be charging for this game as of yet. However, if we were to, it would most likely be around the 5-15$ range.

Technology:

Programming:
We will most likely be using OGRE3D as our engine, therefore we will need coders with a steady knowledge of C++

Modelling:
So far, only AC3D and 3D Studio Max. However, we can still welcome Maya, Blender, and other modelling softwares that are compatible with OGRE3D.

Animating:
Endorphin, but we will welcome more new programs.

2D Art:
Zbrush or Photoshop, but we will be obliged to have any other programs.

[B]Talent needed[/B]:

We are currently accepting:
Writers
2D Artists and Concept Artists
Modellers
Animators
Prorgammers
[B]

Website:
[url]http://z9.invisionfree.com/Secrets_Of_Alchemy/index.php[/url]

Contacts:
My MSN: Fruitloop810@yahoo.com
My e-mail: Fruitloop810@yahoo.com

Additional Info:
If you would like more information about the game, please visit our forums, and if you have any questions, please ask them. We here at al|corp would love to have more DEVs on the team. So if you're interested in working for us, or even just checking out the website, come on down to our forums and register. You'll see what it's like.
Here is some work that will most likely be in game:

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We are short on Developers right now, so if you have any of the skills needed, talk to me on this thread or on MSN. The more help we recieve, the more we will get done. Thank you.

~KnuckleheadNinja

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  • SnaKeySnaKey Member Posts: 3,386

    #1 you can't use Alchemy in the name if it's based on Full Metal Alchemist and expect to charge for the game.

    #2 So what do you do?

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  • SylocSyloc Member Posts: 92
    Is this honestly the place to advertise such things? You're websight's on a free messageboard? Sounds shady to me...

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  • LiddokunLiddokun Member UncommonPosts: 1,665
    You'll probably get sued for using a trademarked name without permission or license.
  • BlueCoyoteBlueCoyote Member Posts: 244
    This sure doesn't sound up-and-coming. image


  • RivalryRivalry Member Posts: 4

    Alright all.

    1) Alchemy is a common name. FMA cannot copywright the word "alchemy", it is impossile...They can only copywright their exact anime name so therefore our name is Secrets of Alchemy.

    2) We will most certainly not be sued, and we do not have any funds at the time to pay for a domain for a board so I doubt that is shady.

    3) How do we do it? We have a game plan of course and we develop what is in that game plan. 

    4) It is up-and-coming, as it is currently being developed, thank you.

    5) If we can eliminate at least about 20% (I believe it was) of the anime's influence the game should be fine. By the way, eliminating characters, cities, etc. we should defenitely be within the law.

  • qwepoiqwepoi Member Posts: 106

    well, can i be the first to wish you good luck

    even if it doesn't work out, its great to see someone taking some initiative, afterall if it wasn't for people like you, we wouldn't have MMORPG's at all!image 

    edit: maybe you should try posting here http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/forum/501 its a forum dedicated to developers who are looking for help with their games.

  • SnaKeySnaKey Member Posts: 3,386


    Originally posted by Rivalry
    3) How do we do it? We have a game plan of course and we develop what is in that game plan.

    So you have nothing then?


    Originally posted by Rivalry
    4) It is up-and-coming, as it is currently being developed, thank you.

    A "game plan", design doc, or idea does not constitute development.

    I know of a game that the owner has sunk $30,000 into it already and it's not even half way to alpha. You're not going anywhere.

    I suggest learning C++ then DirectX and OpenGL before you decide to make a "game".


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  • MuddahMuddah Member UncommonPosts: 161

    Wow this done right could be a goldmine a FMA MMO. I've never thought of it but now that I do wow the possibilities. Sadly with that engine and a low buget this will be a second rate game probably never finishedimage

    But think about it different classes based on different types of alchemists flame,metal,stone,water and so on. Loot consisting of different armors maybe guns swords and body enhancements possibly differnt types of Alchemist's stone enhancements. Transmutation symbols spells. Chimera pets..goodness it could be awesome.....could be....

  • msticmstic Member UncommonPosts: 54
    sweet jesus... I can make models too. Hell mine even look decent... i must be able to make a mmorpg too!

    I got an idea i'll make a mmorpg with plumbers and call it super not-mario brothers. It'll be a fricken hit.

    /sarcasm off

    Crap like this does not belong here. I bet you can't even compile the ogre engine.



  • tingatinga Member Posts: 10
    *sigh* Why are you guys demotivating him so much, let him be. The only thing that seems not so clever to me is...


    Originally posted by Rivalry

    [B]Talent needed[/B]:
    We are currently accepting:
    Writers
    2D Artists and Concept Artists
    Modellers
    Animators
    Prorgammers
    [B]

    Rivalry, I mean you are asking people to work for your project without
    getting payed at all. Sorry to say that so super doomy but you ain't in
    the position to accept
    someone but hope to find someone enthusiastic who offers you her/his
    time for F R E E to help you with your project. But concerning that you
    obviously are the "producer" of this and that you are only fourteen
    years old you did a good job on this so far, I bet most people here who
    doom your project are much older and never even came close to start out
    with something like this at all...

    Anyways if you want to
    make it a success you need atleast a proper domain, a serious homepage
    and if possible the license for Full Metal Alchemist. The license you
    can get here but ONLY if you have a proper team, domain, homepage and you will most likely have to sell the rights for your project to Navarre Corporation.
    If you did well presenting your project and with a little luck they
    might buy it and at that stage you can seriously start to work on it.

    Good Luck! =)


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  • SnaKeySnaKey Member Posts: 3,386


    Originally posted by tinga
    *sigh* Why are you guys demotivating him so much, let him be.

    Reality hurts. I forgot to look at his age though. Probably should've done that first. :)

    Why are you trying to give him hope though? I could understand if you were nicer than the lot of us about it, but you're basically giving this kid alot of false hope. Nobody will ever work on the project for him, it's hard enough to get a paid team to create a MMORPG. The only way it would ever be possible for him to ever create such a thing would be to spend the next 10yrs learning programming and create an engine by himself, then maybe he could get some people to help him. But as of now, you're simply giving the kid false hope when in reality there is no hope for him at this stage in the world.

    I mean you need to high to think the corporation that owns the rights to Full Metal Alchemist would give them over to a 14yr old kid so that if he ever did actually create a game, he could soil their good name.

    Just be real. You're being entirley too fake and there is no reason for it. Sometimes you need to just smack some sense into these kids. I see that you're new here and if you stay around for awhile you will see that if we weren't harsh on these kids they would be coming here by the droves posting their BS games that will never make it. They still come here in tons, but I imagine that there would be alot more if they didn't see how harsh we are to kids like this.

    This thread is spam. Nothing more, Nothing less. We need to be harsh to keep this spam from reoccuring. If you want to give kids like this advice and talk to them like they are actually going to do something about their "idea" then you need to go to ONRPG.com. Because that place is full of these little kids.

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  • OnlineBoyoOnlineBoyo Member Posts: 70
    I understand completely the urge to create a game, so I'm gonna be nice.  Making a game is a HUGE endevor.  Making an MMORPG is an even bigger one.  My recommendation is just go to the ogre3d website and read, read, read!  Read about what Ogre3d really is (a graphic engine), read about its capabilities and how it can be best combined with other things to make games (like OIS for input, openAL for sound, etc).

    Also read the forums.  For example: For all the MMORPG wannabes :)
    This helps demonstrate how ginormous the task of developing and running an MMORPG.

    If you're really serious about making games I would recommend starting off making a single player game to learn the process.  Generally its a safe assumtion to say that anyone's first game sucks. image



  • DrSmaShDrSmaSh Member UncommonPosts: 454

    Well good luck! I would just like to ask if you ever did a game before? Becouse MMO is not the right place to start your game making quest.

    Start simple and then evolve. Get a real forum and real site so ppl will not take you for a joke. Costs are like... I don't know... One month's sub to a MMO? If you say you don't have founds for that... You look like 14 years old kid. Witch is not a bad thing but people like to know that there leaders are great, skilled people becouse only then they will respect you and listen to you.

    Every time I read your post, I die a little inside...
  • RinicRinic Member Posts: 715
    Vaporware.


  • ChessackChessack Member Posts: 978
    To the OP:

    This is not the proper forum. You should post this in the Help Wanted forum, which has as its description, quote, "This forum is for game developers who are looking to recruit people to help create their games."

    The Pub is not the proper place for this.

    C



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    I'm really wondering why so many people recommend this boy to learn programming.
    He clearly shows up as a producer and not as someone who is into writing code himself. Why
    do you think he is looking for programmers, anyways?

    Being a producer is all about making yourself a good "name" and connections. Of course
    I can't tell that this boy will have a success with his project but atleast trying it isn't only
    brave, he is getting essential experience out of it also. Even if it fails, showing up in your
    Curriculum Vitae that you have been seriously working on a software project at the age of
    fourteen
    is defenitely nothing bad to have. I'm very convinced that...

    Originally posted by SnaKey

    Sometimes
    you need to just smack some sense into these kids. I see that you're
    new here and if you stay around for awhile you will see that if we
    weren't harsh on these kids they would be coming here by the droves
    posting their BS games that will never make it.

    ...smacking
    sense into teenagers heads makes any sense at all. I think these kids
    should be encouraged for their hopes and their will to create
    something.


    Originally posted by SnaKey


    I mean you need to high to think the corporation that owns the rights
    to Full Metal Alchemist would give them over to a 14yr old kid so that
    if he ever did actually create a game, he could soil their good name.


    If
    you would have read my post properly you would have understood that I
    recommended him to sell his project to Navarra Corporation so he can work

    with the license, it works that way. The Navarra Corporation themselves
    don't lose any rights at all, neither is it necessary to sell them, they or most likely their daughter FUNimation Entertainment
    would simply act as the publisher.  Whatever, Navarra isn't a bad
    bet because they are into software too, so the chances these guys would
    be interested in something Rivalry is working on are rather "good".

    Finally, SnaKey, if you call me being fake...

    Originally posted by SnaKey

    Just be real. You're being entirley too fake and there is no reason for it.

    ...I
    have to call you being very bold for someone bashing on ONRPG.com what
    obviously is the link-source of his browsergames he is mentioning so
    enthusiastically in so many of his posts.


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  • TinybinaTinybina Member Posts: 2,130
    We need to be harsh to stop these "I want to make a MMORPG in my basement" people from multiplying...

    Im tired of games like Roma Victor, Endless Ages, and Fun Wang Online.





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    You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith

  • DrSmaShDrSmaSh Member UncommonPosts: 454

    Why? Today they make "Roma Victor", tomorrow it could be "WoW 2". Chances are slim but if we just flame em and make em stop producing games that chances are non!

    Every time I read your post, I die a little inside...
  • litlnzanelitlnzane Member Posts: 1

    Originally posted by SnaKey

    Just be real. You're being entirley too fake and there is no reason for it. Sometimes you need to just smack some sense into these kids. I see that you're new here and if you stay around for awhile you will see that if we weren't harsh on these kids they would be coming here by the droves posting their BS games that will never make it. They still come here in tons, but I imagine that there would be alot more if they didn't see how harsh we are to kids like this.

    Someone shoulda smacked this kid for launching his own company at the age of 10,     http://www.cyberteks.net/photo.asp , sadly now hes making millions at the age of 17.



    So what if hes 14, good age to dream about something big. Plus being that young he has alot of free time. Let him be. Anyway since you must bring age up, are you trying to say you are much older and more exp? Well if you are old, why are you still playing video games anyway, and why are you bashing on a little kid? Have common sense. I know for a fact because you are here, then that means you play MMORPG, y? to live in a fantasy world where you can only dream and imagine of actually living there. The kid has dreams also. Now if i were to compare you 2 the only difference is your an old man playing fantasy games pretending to be something your not, prolly a fat lonely man living with his parents, now if you cant tell which is fake or not then your pathetic. This kid has a motivation and a will to create his dream, unlike you. You live someone elses dream and someone elses imagination. Now who has more sense? and who is more Real?image The only thing fake is you. From your profile it say you posted 1946 times...your old yet you have that much free time to post. Get a job.





  • exanimoexanimo Member UncommonPosts: 1,301


    Originally posted by DrSmaSh
    Why? Today they make "Roma Victor", tomorrow it could be "WoW 2". Chances are slim but if we just flame em and make em stop producing games that chances are non!

    very true , dont forget , mr windows and mr apple how they started.

    we must never underestimate the unknown. its true this is not the right place to post this thread , a simple mistake can lead to the usual non stop " i have nothing to do poster " ruin others threads.

    its good we dont have over reacting mods here , i used to complain about transperent mods in this site , but i prefer that to over moding , like we have in other forums , makes me sic to see threads being closed every day and posts deleted ...

    this to say ... let it be , as long as people keep laughting , the thread is bumped.

    you might get some contacts with this , if not for this project , for others that might come.

    POST HARD lol

    PS : thats a beautifull ascii anime model ::::02::

  • SnaKeySnaKey Member Posts: 3,386


    Originally posted by tinga
    He clearly shows up as a producer and not as someone who is into writing code himself. Why
    do you think he is looking for programmers, anyways?Being a producer is all about making yourself a good "name" and connections. Of course
    I can't tell that this boy will have a success with his project but atleast trying it isn't only
    brave, he is getting essential experience out of it also. Even if it fails, showing up in your
    Curriculum Vitae that you have been seriously working on a software project at the age of
    fourteen is defenitely nothing bad to have. I'm very convinced that...

    Producers are made one of two ways:
    1. They have lots and lots and lots of money and can pay programmers.
    2. They have been working in the game industry as a graphic artist, writer, or programmer for many many years and have proven themselves to the right people who have lots and lots and lots of money.

    So you're telling me that every little kid with an idea can be a producer? Do you realize how many people have ideas? Ideas are worth jack-squat, nadda, not a penny... hell they aren't worth a used tissue.

    He's not actually doing any work. He just wants someone to make a game for him, which isn't going to happen unless he sells his soul to the devil.

    If I wasn't kinda busy right now I could give you 20-30 posts of kids and adults who have been looking for people to make video games for them, who have made posts here in the last month alone.

    I'm not bashing his entrapanurial spirit, he just needs to find another outlet for it because video games is not the place to start... there are too many people with "ideas" and not enough people who are good enough to turn those ideas into reality. If he want's to start making video games, then he needs to apply himself other ways and get the connections or get the money to make them.

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  • fansedefansede Member UncommonPosts: 960

    I think this is a devs webite. Did you advertise here?

     

    http://www.gamasutra.com/

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Another bunch of 14 year olds thinking they can create an MMO. And,ofcourse, its about an anime. your project is doomed.


  • OnlineBoyoOnlineBoyo Member Posts: 70

    Originally posted by tinga I'm really wondering why so many people recommend this boy to learn programming.
    He clearly shows up as a producer and not as someone who is into writing code himself.
    Why do you think he is looking for programmers, anyways?


     
    He is not trying to be a producer, he is trying to lead a project.  While a project leader does not have to be able to do everything himself, he has to understand the basics of what is needed.  All an uninformed project leader can do is give unreasonable deadlines and have unrealistic expectations. 

    Working with someone else's intellectual property is probably a bad idea here.  Intellectual property is a pain in many many ways, and in the end its probably better to just make your own IP.  EA, for example, is moving in that direction and while they are holding onto some of their licenses (cough cough madden cough cough), they are really looking to create their own intellectual property.  I suggest that you sit down and make your own stories and characters and universe, since then you can do whatever you want with them, and no one is going to kill you for not staying true to the IP.

    Its always nice *not* to get sued.


    Also why flame just for flame's sake?  Its not like this guy came here asking how to hax his friend's account or how to run a bot in X game...


  • WolfjunkieWolfjunkie Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 985
    Indie developers is an good thing, and people who want to go that way should most defently be encouraged. So what if they make a shit game? It's not like you're forced to play it. It's not like you've put any work into it.
    Some day, one of these developers could hit the nail on the head - Which would be good for us.
    Besides, indie developers like taking chances, likes to try something alternative. All in all, they're one of my highest hopes within the MMORPG scene currently.



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