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Beta Release?
NoradXIIX
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When does this game go out on beta? 
MMO-Hunter/Spethz
Spetzzon@hotmail.com
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MMO-Hunter/Spethz
Spetzzon@hotmail.com
Point and click i think limits your movement to much. the WSAD keys are so much better, lets you have so much more freedom.
e.g. I can jump and spin while firing an arrow, like a hunter in WoW. WIth PnC i just can't see this happening.
Point and click i think limits your movement to much. the WSAD keys are so much better, lets you have so much more freedom.
e.g. I can jump and spin while firing an arrow, like a hunter in WoW. WIth PnC i just can't see this happening.
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Yeah but consider it's not wow... why dont play wow then.. it has to be something wich is connected to the genre, in facts it is a warhammer based game.. And go to roll on dice to move free like in wow, will make the real fan upset.. But still it's the game.. not the RPG-style so i really hoping to see some good steering.. its often the steering in game's that make the boring.. in my case there is ..
MMO-Hunter/Spethz
Spetzzon@hotmail.com
Have you ever tried to PvP effectively in a point & click control system? It's horrid. Saying you may as well play WoW if you like WASD controls is retarded. Most games out there use WASD controls, multiplayer or not. Free movement is not going to make a "real fan" upset. What will make them upset is not being able to do what they want to do with their character when they want to do it. In PvP, reaction time is everything and point & click hinders that for the most part.
P.S. - The heartagram is a mark of a try-hard...dont' be a lemming.
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Have you ever tried to PvP effectively in a point & click control system? It's horrid. Saying you may as well play WoW if you like WASD controls is retarded. Most games out there use WASD controls, multiplayer or not. Free movement is not going to make a "real fan" upset. What will make them upset is not being able to do what they want to do with their character when they want to do it. In PvP, reaction time is everything and point & click hinders that for the most part.
P.S. - The heartagram is a mark of a try-hard...dont' be a lemming.
I think l2 has good pvp system (it's pvp game with a decent amount of players) eaven its point & click, so i think it can't be that "horrid". but i vote for WASD, more freedom. But i do hate the fact that in pvp (in wow) warrior vs. mage for an example.. u run around of another character all the time which looks retarted. gosh, in real battle u woud never run around someone, u woud face him, hit his ass off just like in l2... point & click. well made WASD woud rock tho
and don't say "go and play l2 then" cous i already do so.
MMO-Hunter/Spethz
Spetzzon@hotmail.com
But i do hate the fact that in pvp (in wow) warrior vs. mage for an example.. u run around of another character all the time which looks retarted. gosh, in real battle u woud never run around someone, u woud face him, hit his ass off just like in l2...
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Hey i dont blame you said that, but consider world of warcraft that it is from the beggining a Strategy game.. u need a strategi to play wow.. dont just run around.. i dont say other game's are boring when u click and auto attack until he is dead.. but that is not so much strategy... wow got to had some....
and like WAR - Warhammer Age of reckoning; u gotta have some pvp stategy what would make the game a warhammer genre else... i really think it gotta have some backup smart playing way to play good but also gear, but strategy is most inportant i think... some games i have played u only need a good gear and you are mr.Super then.. thats my opinion .. don't whine.. say YOUR opinion..
cheers 
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Spethz
MMO-Hunter/Spethz
Spetzzon@hotmail.com
I think l2 has good pvp system (it's pvp game with a decent amount of players) eaven its point & click, so i think it can't be that "horrid". but i vote for WASD, more freedom. But i do hate the fact that in pvp (in wow) warrior vs. mage for an example.. u run around of another character all the time which looks retarted. gosh, in real battle u woud never run around someone, u woud face him, hit his ass off just like in l2... point & click. well made WASD woud rock tho
and don't say "go and play l2 then" cous i already do so.
What are you talking about? Do you say that in RL one would stand straight up and down and hit eachother? Nonono! Have you seen Monthy Python and the Holy Grail? It would be kind of like what it looks like when King Arthur and the Black Knight fights. That is not how it's done. Ofcourse they run around and try to avoid eachothers hits..
A WASD system works much than point and click. To say something else is lack of skill or fear to try something new IMO.
"What's a cocksmoker?"
I think l2 has good pvp system (it's pvp game with a decent amount of players) eaven its point & click, so i think it can't be that "horrid". but i vote for WASD, more freedom. But i do hate the fact that in pvp (in wow) warrior vs. mage for an example.. u run around of another character all the time which looks retarted. gosh, in real battle u woud never run around someone, u woud face him, hit his ass off just like in l2... point & click. well made WASD woud rock tho
and don't say "go and play l2 then" cous i already do so.
What are you talking about? Do you say that in RL one would stand straight up and down and hit eachother? Nonono! Have you seen Monthy Python and the Holy Grail? It would be kind of like what it looks like when King Arthur and the Black Knight fights. That is not how it's done. Ofcourse they run around and try to avoid eachothers hits..
A WASD system works much than point and click. To say something else is lack of skill or fear to try something new IMO.
You've seen too many hollywood movies.
In real life, you wouldn't run around an opponent. Most of the battles would be huge formations clashing together, so your back would defently be vulnerable if you started to run around. Instead, you try to dodge and block blows, but most fights ends within 10 seconds anyway.
Have you ever tried to PvP effectively in a point & click control system? It's horrid. Saying you may as well play WoW if you like WASD controls is retarded. Most games out there use WASD controls, multiplayer or not. Free movement is not going to make a "real fan" upset. What will make them upset is not being able to do what they want to do with their character when they want to do it. In PvP, reaction time is everything and point & click hinders that for the most part.
P.S. - The heartagram is a mark of a try-hard...dont' be a lemming.
Yep, used p&c in SB (first two years) and it was the best PvP I have played to date.
MMO Vet since AOL Neverwinter Nights circa 1992. My MMO beat up your MMO. =S
You've seen too many hollywood movies.
In real life, you wouldn't run around an opponent. Most of the battles would be huge formations clashing together, so your back would defently be vulnerable if you started to run around. Instead, you try to dodge and block blows, but most fights ends within 10 seconds anyway.
Yeah, maybe I've seen quite some movies, but to stand straight up and down is surely not how one would fight. To hit eachother til one of you die and see who hits the hardest is just stupid. You would still move around, regardless of how much armour/shields etc you are wearing.. I'm not saying that the thing with running around your opponent in WoW is 100% realistic, but you get my point.
"What's a cocksmoker?"
Kinda got confused in the point of this thread, is the poll asking what we prefer or what we hope this game is designed for? And the when does Beta start question tossed in there.
As far as controls in Warhammer from the videos i've seen from them at like E3 or for an interview there using WSDA and right click for camera angle (just like Eq2, WoW etc and a billion others) Wich im glad and prefer myself as well. Point in click just isn't my thing, feels so limited imho.
With Beta comming who knows, I gotta assume Beta would start real soonish if they want to hold onto there Late 2007 release, most games pack in about a year of Beta or close to, but then again we might not see Beta til about early 07' as thats when the news letter said we would get our first look at the elves of both faction so that may be a good time for them to set up Beta.
Originally posted by Darendevil
I think l2 has good pvp system (it's pvp game with a decent amount of players) eaven its point & click, so i think it can't be that "horrid". but i vote for WASD, more freedom. But i do hate the fact that in pvp (in wow) warrior vs. mage for an example.. u run around of another character all the time which looks retarted. gosh, in real battle u woud never run around someone, u woud face him, hit his ass off just like in l2... point & click. well made WASD woud rock tho
and don't say "go and play l2 then" cous i already do so.
What are you talking about? Do you say that in RL one would stand straight up and down and hit eachother? Nonono! Have you seen Monthy Python and the Holy Grail? It would be kind of like what it looks like when King Arthur and the Black Knight fights. That is not how it's done. Ofcourse they run around and try to avoid eachothers hits..
A WASD system works much than point and click. To say something else is lack of skill or fear to try something new IMO.
You've seen too many hollywood movies.
In real life, you wouldn't run around an opponent. Most of the battles would be huge formations clashing together, so your back would defently be vulnerable if you started to run around. Instead, you try to dodge and block blows, but most fights ends within 10 seconds anyway.
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It depends on the game ofcouse.. World of warcraft gotta have run around system to strategy your victory.. if u standed still and just attacked it would not be a strategi att all..
MMO-Hunter/Spethz
Spetzzon@hotmail.com
P.S. - The heartagram is a mark of a try-hard...dont' be a lemming.
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Lol i just use the heartagram cuse its darn nice logo.. have i ever said that it was something i was standing for... and did not say something that con me to me a "lemming"
lol.. I was saying my opinion.. the one who has made the heartagram HIM, say's that stand for what you belive in, listned to what the f*** u want.. but this is not the thing to talk about in a WAR forum.. sorry...
P.S. - READ all before Whine...
MMO-Hunter/Spethz
Spetzzon@hotmail.com
I have to say a combination would be nice to have. Or at least give the choice to the players. Some like the point and click system more while others (myself included) likes the wasd controls.
And for the fighing, when I'm in a swordfight with someone else we don't stand still, but we don't run around each other either. If we would run around we would be finished off before even saying AAA (yes and that is even to long). The moving is closing in to hit when we see an opening at the defense of the other, and moving back out or stepping back to dodge an attack that you can't parry. Also a sidestep is taken in account, but turning your side or just plain run to the back of your opponent is just asking to get hit in the flank and back. You can't keep your defense up when doing so.
"If all magic fails, rely on three feet of steel and a strong arm"
Between the bad english and the misunderstanding Im getting confused.
WASD F T W
Theres nothing better than being chased and setting your charachter on auto run, panning the camera, seducing warriors and then flipping around on them, side stepping out of there Line of site and then soulfiring them to a crisp.
And what about stopping on a dime? How does that happen? With wasd, I move where I want to move rather than telling my charachter what point on the map I would like to GET TO and then having some form of COMPUTER programming path me to that destination.
To me the difference is much similiar to driving a stick (manual) or a automatic. With a stick, I have so much more control over my 6 speed porsche 911 carrera turbo (yeah Im dreaming, so what!). I mean think about it, your going around a corner and you downshift into 3rd, pull out of the turn, make it back up to speed and drop it into 4th. In automatic (point and click) while simpler to use, you are giving up a large ammount of precise control over your charachter.
prefer arrow keys really
left-handed mouse user
fortunately, there is usually that option
A,S,D,W preferably...
I prefer to use the mouse to interact with the environment....I don't wanna be trying to kill something and accidentally left click instead of right click and my character walk away from the battle only to get some crit hit in the back.....
I despise games with point and click, if WAR will use point and click with an wasd option I'm gonna kill myself !!