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  • TelakiTelaki Member Posts: 361
    Bonzar, Go troll another forum I'm done feeding you.

  • ldyofthskullldyofthskull Member Posts: 18
    Most use a series of alphabets or initials for nicks some playing on pc will play 2 accounts at the same time...it is done.
  • mbbladembblade Member Posts: 747
    LMAO yea the console Final fantasy.  FF12 is a console rpg, where FF11 is a MMORPG


  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912

    Yep, now I'll have a reason to dig out my PS2.::::01::

  • Ranma13Ranma13 Member Posts: 747


    Originally posted by Telaki
    So instead of paying people in the States with all the workers rights boundires, (8 hour shifts, Minimum wage, overtime, etc.) They do it over in another country where they can do 12 hour shifts, and $2.00/week pay.

    You might want to do a little research or get first-hand experience before you make a post like that. Virtual currency farming in China is like the fast food industry here, people who either dropped out of high school or did very poorly in college and can't get a job, will work in these 'sweat shops'.

    $2 a week converted to RMB is approximately 10 RMB. That's maybe enough for only 1-2 meals. Average pay in China is about 400 RMB a month, but that's the average of everybody in the country. A significant portion of people living in the cities earn greater than 10,000 RMB a month, comparable to middle-class US income. The virtual currency farmers that I've chatted with quoted monthly earnings of anywhere from 400 - 1,000 RMB, depending on how good of a month it was. Some of them do it to supplement their family income, and nearly all don't have the education or motivation required to get a better job.

    So please don't post randomly about a subject that you have no idea about.

  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912


    Originally posted by Ranma13
    Originally posted by Telaki
    So instead of paying people in the States with all the workers rights boundires, (8 hour shifts, Minimum wage, overtime, etc.) They do it over in another country where they can do 12 hour shifts, and $2.00/week pay.

    You might want to do a little research or get first-hand experience before you make a post like that. Virtual currency farming in China is like the fast food industry here, people who either dropped out of high school or did very poorly in college and can't get a job, will work in these 'sweat shops'.

    $2 a week converted to RMB is approximately 10 RMB. That's maybe enough for only 1-2 meals. Average pay in China is about 400 RMB a month, but that's the average of everybody in the country. A significant portion of people living in the cities earn greater than 10,000 RMB a month, comparable to middle-class US income. The virtual currency farmers that I've chatted with quoted monthly earnings of anywhere from 400 - 1,000 RMB, depending on how good of a month it was. Some of them do it to supplement their family income, and nearly all don't have the education or motivation required to get a better job.

    So please don't post randomly about a subject that you have no idea about.


    So then the farmers you've chatted with make $80-$200 a month? For how many hours a day/ days a week? Still sounds like a sweat shop to me.

  • Ranma13Ranma13 Member Posts: 747

    I haven't asked around much about time, but the few that I did usually quoted anywhere from 6-8 hours, usually from 10 PM till 6 AM. It's a steady job, so they usually work 5-6 days a week, depending on the place they're working for. I don't approve the use of the term 'sweat shops' because I know people who work at fast food restaurants or supermarkets from opening to closing without overtime (7 AM to 10 PM) and nobody ever calls them sweatshops.

    And converting RMB to US dollars and using that as a basis for comparison is flawed. You can live comfortably in certain areas of China for 1000 RMB (like in smaller cities). 1000 RMB converts to about ~$120 US. You CANNOT live comfortably with only an $120 income a month in the US. In order to do accurate comparisons, you have to compare the worth of one dollar in one country's currency to the worth of one dollar in another country's currency.

  • TelakiTelaki Member Posts: 361

    Originally posted by Ranma13
    I haven't asked around much about time, but the few that I did usually quoted anywhere from 6-8 hours, usually from 10 PM till 6 AM. It's a steady job, so they usually work 5-6 days a week, depending on the place they're working for. I don't approve the use of the term 'sweat shops' because I know people who work at fast food restaurants or supermarkets from opening to closing without overtime (7 AM to 10 PM) and nobody ever calls them sweatshops.And converting RMB to US dollars and using that as a basis for comparison is flawed. You can live comfortably in certain areas of China for 1000 RMB (like in smaller cities). 1000 RMB converts to about ~$120 US. You CANNOT live comfortably with only an $120 income a month in the US. In order to do accurate comparisons, you have to compare the worth of one dollar in one country's currency to the worth of one dollar in another country's currency.
    Thus~ Why RMT is outsorced.


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