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Europe gets screwed

GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

For some unknown reason, Sega found it necisary to release the game in Europe a full month after the US, this is absolutely rediculous, and is this still needed in a time like this? Gaming has become big now, and it should be possible to release at the same time, or with a few days delay at max. but an entire month for what is basicly the exact same version? come now.

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  • DarendevilDarendevil Member Posts: 10
    yea, i think this is totally stupid, we the europeans get in to the game when US players are already high lvl, which is totally stupid... i think i need to order this game from US :/


  • adhesiveadhesive Member Posts: 18
    Boohoo, whine more image. You just have to wait a single month, its been in Japan for 3 months. Regardless you are still going to have to wait, and there will still be many people that are higher levels than you. But with this kind of game, high levels won't impact your game at ALL, what with all the zoning and instances. An extreme delay has a high impact for a game like FFXI, where I am still a frim believer Japanese players raped the markets with getting to play so early. Blame region coding for your wait, and in that lonely month where life has lost all meaning to you, graba  dictionary and practice spelling.

    Or go play Cabal Online. image
  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    Originally posted by adhesive
    Boohoo, whine more image. You just have to wait a single month, its been in Japan for 3 months. Regardless you are still going to have to wait, and there will still be many people that are higher levels than you. But with this kind of game, high levels won't impact your game at ALL, what with all the zoning and instances. An extreme delay has a high impact for a game like FFXI, where I am still a frim believer Japanese players raped the markets with getting to play so early. Blame region coding for your wait, and in that lonely month where life has lost all meaning to you, graba  dictionary and practice spelling.

    Or go play Cabal Online. image

    Your from the US, what a surprise!

    The japan release date was 1 october, thats hardly 3 months.

    Also, in case you missed this information, Japan has its own servers, where US and EU have to SHARE the servers. the early release in japan has zero effect on US and EU regions, but the early US release DOES have an effect on the EU region.

    For your information, the MOST amount of people wil join during the US release, which gives much more grouping options. not to mention I usually play at night, so I will play with US people most of the time. So that leaves me with the few people that bought the game a month after the US release.

    For your last rather childish dictionary and spelling comment, sure thing. but only if you buy a dictionary in my language as well. next month, you type in dutch and don't let me see ONE single mistake mister.


  • JelloB2000JelloB2000 Member CommonPosts: 1,848

    PSU doesnt have pvp at all so level difference wont matter too much & people will always make new characters when they start a new mmorpg so it cant be that few people around in the starting areas.

    (Or is the level-sharing limit insane as in FFXI?)

  • nynnivanynniva Member UncommonPosts: 235

    I wouldn't worry about it too much, really. You know how these things always are at launch. Lagginess, bugginess, working out all the kinks etc. etc. You just save yourself a lot of frustration ;) And not *everyone* will be higher than you. Sure, there are the power gamers who will get the game and just go nuts, but I'd like to think the majority of people play the game for what it is :P People play at different paces, a month isn't enough for the world to pass you by. There's some games that have been out for -years- that you can still come in and find people to play with so don't sweat it ^^

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  • grimbojgrimboj Member Posts: 2,102

    Originally posted by nynniva
    Sure, there are the power gamers who will get the game and just go nuts, but I'd like to think the majority of people play the game for what it is :P People play at different paces, a month isn't enough for the world to pass you by.
    Have you ever played an mmorpg before? lol The first month is everything, acquiring things before the hyper inflation starts, being there at the formation of the guilds and exploiting profitable bugs. This games publishers are pretty out of order making us wait a month and to be frank I probly wont play this game because of it. Who wants to be 1 month behind with every single patch and expansion when I could just go out and buy one of the games older versions. There are already telling us xbox players cant play with PC players, by the sounds of it EU players cant play with US players either. I may as well go down the pub since thats about the range of people Im gonna be able to play with lollllll.


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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    no thats not true, the US & EU servers are combined. thats what angers me, I'll be a month behind everyone else.


  • Asura000Asura000 Member Posts: 5

    Originally posted by Gameloading
    no thats not true, the US & EU servers are combined. thats what angers me, I'll be a month behind everyone else.

    Im sorry I don't mean any disrespect, and believe me I know what you mean, I myself am from the UK.

    But why not do what I'd find the logical thing and preorder/import the game from the US if you can't wait so long?
    I did it that way through ebay :).
  • grimbojgrimboj Member Posts: 2,102

    Originally posted by Gameloading
    no thats not true, the US & EU servers are combined. thats what angers me, I'll be a month behind everyone else.
    XBOX 360 players will be playing with japs o.0


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  • novamasternovamaster Member Posts: 6



    Originally posted by Gameloading



    Originally posted by adhesive
    Boohoo, whine more image. You just have to wait a single month, its been in Japan for 3 months. Regardless you are still going to have to wait, and there will still be many people that are higher levels than you. But with this kind of game, high levels won't impact your game at ALL, what with all the zoning and instances. An extreme delay has a high impact for a game like FFXI, where I am still a frim believer Japanese players raped the markets with getting to play so early. Blame region coding for your wait, and in that lonely month where life has lost all meaning to you, graba  dictionary and practice spelling.

    Or go play Cabal Online. image


    Your from the US, what a surprise!

    The japan release date was 1 october, thats hardly 3 months.

    Also, in case you missed this information, Japan has its own servers, where US and EU have to SHARE the servers. the early release in japan has zero effect on US and EU regions, but the early US release DOES have an effect on the EU region.

    For your information, the MOST amount of people wil join during the US release, which gives much more grouping options. not to mention I usually play at night, so I will play with US people most of the time. So that leaves me with the few people that bought the game a month after the US release.

    For your last rather childish dictionary and spelling comment, sure thing. but only if you buy a dictionary in my language as well. next month, you type in dutch and don't let me see ONE single mistake mister.


    It's really just about the first sentance in the post you made...

    Please dont join the stereo typical "US is dumb, fat, stupid and doesn't deserve any respect" band wagon.
    It really doesn't make me angry when i see poeple make jokes about my country, it makes me sad, and dissapointed.

    And, i hope you're actually dutch, or i'll regret this haha.

    Volgende keer kan je mensen misschien een beetje "liever" of terwijl minder hard aanpakken. Het zal je zeker veel goed doen, succes.

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182



    Originally posted by novamaster



    Originally posted by Gameloading



    Originally posted by adhesive
    Boohoo, whine more image. You just have to wait a single month, its been in Japan for 3 months. Regardless you are still going to have to wait, and there will still be many people that are higher levels than you. But with this kind of game, high levels won't impact your game at ALL, what with all the zoning and instances. An extreme delay has a high impact for a game like FFXI, where I am still a frim believer Japanese players raped the markets with getting to play so early. Blame region coding for your wait, and in that lonely month where life has lost all meaning to you, graba  dictionary and practice spelling.

    Or go play Cabal Online. image


    Your from the US, what a surprise!

    The japan release date was 1 october, thats hardly 3 months.

    Also, in case you missed this information, Japan has its own servers, where US and EU have to SHARE the servers. the early release in japan has zero effect on US and EU regions, but the early US release DOES have an effect on the EU region.

    For your information, the MOST amount of people wil join during the US release, which gives much more grouping options. not to mention I usually play at night, so I will play with US people most of the time. So that leaves me with the few people that bought the game a month after the US release.

    For your last rather childish dictionary and spelling comment, sure thing. but only if you buy a dictionary in my language as well. next month, you type in dutch and don't let me see ONE single mistake mister.


    It's really just about the first sentance in the post you made...

    Please dont join the stereo typical "US is dumb, fat, stupid and doesn't deserve any respect" band wagon.
    It really doesn't make me angry when i see poeple make jokes about my country, it makes me sad, and dissapointed.

    And, i hope you're actually dutch, or i'll regret this haha.

    Volgende keer kan je mensen misschien een beetje "liever" of terwijl minder hard aanpakken. Het zal je zeker veel goed doen, succes.



    That had nothing to do with any kind of stereotype. What I meant was that its easy to say "quit your whining" when your in the US. He doesn't have to wait another month. he won't be a month behind everyone else.
  • neuronomadneuronomad Member Posts: 1,276
    Yeah I think Sega dropped the ball on this one.  There are a lot of upset EU players and I can see their point.


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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182



    Originally posted by Asura000




    Originally posted by Gameloading
    no thats not true, the US & EU servers are combined. thats what angers me, I'll be a month behind everyone else.

    Im sorry I don't mean any disrespect, and believe me I know what you mean, I myself am from the UK.

    But why not do what I'd find the logical thing and preorder/import the game from the US if you can't wait so long?
    I did it that way through ebay :).



    Because of this:

    "Well, the US official release date is now upon us and many of us are anxiously waiting for copies to arrive by post or for pre-orders to get to shops or whatever. If you manage to get hold of the game today despite the apparent delays and other stuff then you're a lucky sod and I hate you. But enjoy your Gurhalian life, everybody~

     It turned out only American credit cards can be used to pay for subscribtions. In practice, this means European and Australian players that imported the American version got shafted, and will not be able to play online for a month, unless they manage to make a deal with contacts resident in the States."

    http://www.psupedia.org/index.php?title=News#10.2F24.2F2006:_The_Battle_Begins_--_Though_no_payment_options_for_importers.21

    SEGA will do everything in their powers to make europeans wait a month and to avoid importing.

    This proves that SEGA is not intrested in fixing this problem. they won't allow people to purchase the game through the internet by making a download version of the game, and now they blocked all non-US payment systems and credit cards untill the European release.

    Thank you Sega.. image

  • LaunvatarLaunvatar Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 127

    omg.. I didn't know that.. image

    I'm an european player also.. so is it true that... *whining*

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    Rolling On The Floor Laughing Too Hard To Stop And Scaring The Cat, Meanwhile My Mom Walked In And Thought I Had Eaten Poisonous Mushrooms And She Called The Paramedics And They Took Me Too Mad House And All Of This Is Your Fault You Stupid Fathead Piece Of **** With Your Lame Jokes That Make Me Laugh This Much You Bastard

  • Povey151Povey151 Member Posts: 250
    sega didnt drop the ball...they dont owe you anything, they didnt have any sort of deal worked out with you where you truly got shafted

    They chose to release it at a later date for you, sure you may not be caught up with some other players but that doesnt really screw you as you invested nothing into the production of this game.

    And in end i would like to say...QQ this is the video game market, there are always delays/shifts/cancellations/downtimes etc....so yeah it sucks that you dont get to play for a month... but is it really that big of a deal, no.



  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182



    Originally posted by Povey151
    sega didnt drop the ball...they dont owe you anything, they didnt have any sort of deal worked out with you where you truly got shafted

    They chose to release it at a later date for you, sure you may not be caught up with some other players but that doesnt really screw you as you invested nothing into the production of this game.

    And in end i would like to say...QQ this is the video game market, there are always delays/shifts/cancellations/downtimes etc....so yeah it sucks that you dont get to play for a month... but is it really that big of a deal, no.



    That does not take away that Europeans are playing the same price as US citizens, yet US get to play a month before Europe. not to mention there is always rush who beats a certain boss first in MMO's, and PSU is no diffrent. yet again, europeans don't have any chance for these so called "Bragging rights". Also, I already explained in a previous post that it IS a big deal for me because of my playtime hours.
  • MMO_ManMMO_Man Member Posts: 666

    What really sucks is that I live in the US and got the game, I played it for 2 days and deleted it. I like to play MMOs on my PC and not the 360 so I got the PC version, well all the controlls are setup on the keyboard! There is no mouse interaction at all in this game, so I had to set it up to play with a controller! Then I'm thinking, why the hell did I buy the PC version if I can't even use my mouse? I should've just got the 360 version because I'm using a controller anyway. Anyway..the game is too restricting in where you can go and what you can do and if you say Guild Wars isn't an MMO then either is PSU because it's all instances with places were people can group up.

    My brother now has my account but I doubt he will play it long for the same reasons.

    So maybe you're lucky that you have to wait a month, read some reviews and see what people are saying about the game. Who knows you might change your mind.


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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    Reviews?

    according to IGN:

    Press average: 9,0/10
    Readers average (43 ratins) 9,0/10

     

    sounds good to me.

    The problem with you was that you expected the wrong thing. PSU is limited because PSU is not really an mmorpg. its a normal online game, and it should be played as one. its an excellent game, and I know what to expect.

  • MMO_ManMMO_Man Member Posts: 666

    Originally posted by Gameloading
    Reviews?

    according to IGN:

    Press average: 9,0/10
    Readers average (43 ratins) 9,0/10   sounds good to me. The problem with you was that you expected the wrong thing. PSU is limited because PSU is not really an mmorpg. its a normal online game, and it should be played as one. its an excellent game, and I know what to expect.

    True, I'm probably in a minority of people who don't like the game. I can't see paying a monthly fee for it though. I does suck that they delayed the game for you guys in the UK I hope you can survive the wait.


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  • moondeathmoondeath Member Posts: 17
    A friend of mine is living at L.A. He bought the game and sent it to Spain for me.
    He's is paying it for me too.
    Sega thinks that is better this than quit billing address protection ?
    They are wrong. Mistake.




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  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912

    Not too much of a mistake. They still got your money and you are still playing. But I agree that it's not fair for them to alienate one segment of their game population from another. Perhaps they are having trouble setting up a European billing system? Just a thought, I don't really know. Thankfully, I got my fill of PSO on Dreamcast, so I'm not interested in this version anyway.

  • WindlionWindlion Member UncommonPosts: 53
    I have to agree ! it is not fair too are european friends out there ! they deserve the same release date we get here in the us.  so I hope ths  stupid idiea of releasing it, in one place, first channges in the future.
  • Povey151Povey151 Member Posts: 250
    i dont understand how you can say its not fair to them etc. etc. etc.

    Its a product released by a company, the company owes you NOTHING as you have invested NOTHING into it, unless you preordered and then you shouldve done research first if this kind of thing is an issue to you.

    The company can do WHATEVER they want with their product and they owe you NOTHING in return, and i'm sure you've agreed to contracts of those natures while signing up for the game.



  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182



    Originally posted by Povey151
    i dont understand how you can say its not fair to them etc. etc. etc.

    Its a product released by a company, the company owes you NOTHING as you have invested NOTHING into it, unless you preordered and then you shouldve done research first if this kind of thing is an issue to you.

    The company can do WHATEVER they want with their product and they owe you NOTHING in return, and i'm sure you've agreed to contracts of those natures while signing up for the game.




    I have been playing PSO for quite a few years. I have helped, along with thousands of other people, Sonic team to become what it is today.


    Also, for your research comment, it was NEVER mentioned by Sonic Team that they would block european cards. "the BUY NOW!" only had "US ONLY" tag added shortly ago. people couldn't have researched it.

    Do they owe it to us? No. but does that make it fair? Heck no. We pay the exact same amount of money (in fact, We are paying MORE money) as US citizens. yet we don't get the same treatment.

  • HerodesHerodes Member UncommonPosts: 1,494

    Maybe it is because of the localizations to the different languages. Game magazines rate it higher, if a game is well localised here.
    The joke is: when you play PSU online with international players and have (in my case) german item-names. If the items named something like "supermegamaxifluxmodulatorblah" and it is called in my language completely differnt, aaand in the heat of the battle someone orders me per voice to use the supermegafartoolongname... get it? ;)

    Answer wouldbe something like: "WHAT THE HELL SHALL I USE, YOU BEKLOPPTER STRICHER?"

    I hope, there is an option to switch language to english, while playing online.

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