Originally posted by neuronomad Even though you posted it to the wrong place I will reply to your comments.
This forum is the "General Forum" subjects relating to "mmorpg's" and therefore this topic fits just fine here. If we limited this forum to just those mmorpg's that weren't otherwise represented it would be pretty quiet here
Originally posted by 79of96 I have stoped and started playing WoW, four times now. Though, the final nail in the coffin was a few weeks back. I want to enjoy other games aswell, and I don't think I can do that whilst playing WoW.
Sadly, but I know what you are talking about. I can't play medi-core in WoW. If I play, I want to go in 100% in it.
Same here. I've played the game since beta on and off and just recently quit. It's a good game, but i was not immersed. Having to LFG all the time and just grind/quests..i felt the need to play something that was very immersive and something that i could put my 100% in easily.....Lol...i started playing NWN 1 (a single player game).
Originally posted by Googlez I'm too addicted. The game's just too fun! And with the expansion soon to come, I don't think I'm going to be paying anything else for a while. Anyone else have this kind of addiction? EDIT: Meant to post this in the WoW forum. Anyway to delete a post?
you wanna quit? just type /played think about it and then use your webbrowser...
Agreed. Think about all those hours, days, months and years you've spent in front of a computer screen when you could be living life. Playing MMOs is fine, but when you can't quit or when you neglect other areas of your life, you should deinstall and do something else.
Hell, there are even rehab centers now for people addicted to online games. Sad.
Most people play MMOs for the trill of having a second life and being able to do things in the second life that they can't do in real life. In real life I am a 33 year old married father that is an IT professional, but in game I can be an epic hero questing on mighty adventures for fame and fortune. It is this escape from reality that is addictive, just like why people use drugs, to escape reality.
I can't count the number of times I have tried to quit Warcrack. Blizzard has created their own legal drug. Moderation is thrown out the door for many, many people when they play games like WoW. Unlike tradition video games, the MMO player is compelled to play every chance to be able to keep up with the Jones. Everyone is compelled to play as much as the next person. The 30 year old parent with a full time job feels compelled to keep up with the 17 year old that is off on spring break. The 13 year old that has a bright academic outlook starts to let his studies drop in order to keep up with his 20 something guildmates that have made whatever MMO their second fulltime job.
It is the beauty and the curse of MMOs. The beauty is you always feel that you have something to work towards. But the curse is that you have to spend countless hours in order to keep up with the next guy or girl.
I really got into WoW big time shortly after my daughter was born. At first it really worked out well, she slept all day, I got to play WoW and just had to do the occasional diaper chance. But then soon she was crawling and then walking and my while my free time with her should have been 100% directed towards her, often I would be come distracted by the game. While I never let the game come before taking care of her, I can easily see how some people could allow the game to distract them to even ignore their children, friends or spouses.
WoW holds a funny place for me. Personally I don't really know why I like the game so much and keep coming back. I have played other MMOs that I enjoyed the storyline of much more and so on. Yet for some reason I always find myself coming back to it. I recently took a month break from the game, yet not a day went by that I didn't think about playing again and of course finally gave in. I don't know what it is that Blizzard has managed to do with WoW, but there is something about the game that is so addictive.
For as much as I loved other MMOs while I played them like EQ2, GW and such, none of them have ever had the hold on me that WoW constantly manages to maintain.
I do believe that people need to practice moderation and self control. But I also know that sometimes that is easier said than done. In the end I really don't think it is a great conspiracy or anything. I just think that Blizzard has managed to make a game that while isn't anything truely special has the right balance of gaming elements and user controls to make it so easy to get into and play.
Sorry for my rambling.
-------------------------------- Currently Playing: Guild Wars 2 and Path of Exile
Originally posted by Googlez I'm too addicted. The game's just too fun! And with the expansion soon to come, I don't think I'm going to be paying anything else for a while. Anyone else have this kind of addiction? EDIT: Meant to post this in the WoW forum. Anyway to delete a post?
WoW sucks, period. Mainly because Blizzard is behind it.
It's EverCrack with solo play, what's not to get addicted about? It's everything us EverQuest players with little free time have been asking for years. About the only real difference between WoW and EQ besides the ability to solo is that your char is limited to two tradeskills..that's kind of odd, but other than that I couldn't ask for anything more.
That's not to say that some other games arn't addictive though. The randomly generated missions in City of Villains and Anarchy Online are fantastic, but the leveling rate is too slow for my personal taste in CoV and Anarchy Online isn't my cup of tea.
Someone tell me what there is to do besides raids after you hit 60 ? PvP = Raid gear required to comepete and win, Rep grind = boredom beyond belief for crappy rewards. How many times can you run UBRS, LBRS, DM, etc....untill you are bored out of your skull ? Yeah you don't have to raids but then if you aren't doing raids for gear to advance you character you might as well not play the game.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
Originally posted by M1sf1t Someone tell me what there is to do besides raids after you hit 60 ? PvP = Raid gear required to comepete and win, Rep grind = boredom beyond belief for crappy rewards. How many times can you run UBRS, LBRS, DM, etc....untill you are bored out of your skull ? Yeah you don't have to raids but then if you aren't doing raids for gear to advance you character you might as well not play the game.
Well isn't this the case for all MMOs after you reach level cap? I mean really what else is there in an MMO after level cap other than PvP, Rep grind, Gold Grind, and rading, and just hanging out with friends and waiting for the next expansion and level cap increase?
As far as WoW gear to advance, if you don't raid you still can get decent PvP sets, but either way you are still going to have to spend crazy amount of time in order to keep up with the jones.
In the end to me even though I continue to keep coming back to WoW, it is always an Arms Race to get the best gear. I have always hated that gear dependency.
-------------------------------- Currently Playing: Guild Wars 2 and Path of Exile
Im not sure the OP meant "Addicted" literally. More like an exxageration, like me saying "Oh my God this is the best pizza in the world", or "That is just the worst". More of a figure of speech.
Gotta add in though, lately my WoW playing has suffered from console games. Splinter Cell Double Agent, Justice League Heroes, and Phantasy Star Universe.(havent played online yet) Also rediscovered some old favorites like D&D Heroes and Prince of Persia:Sands of Time. Been having a ball with my dusty old X-Box again. He was so lonely.....
"The touch is cold I tore a path screaming through wind and blood I will it all Burning deep in my skull" -Mastodon "Crystal Skull"
WoW addiction, is MMO addiction of the WORST kind.
If you want a competitive character you are basically forced to raid 30+ hours a week during primetime. Mainly because of a terrible cycle, if you want to be in the leading guilds you will be required to attend the majority of raids. Raids are usually only ran during primetime due to the 40 man requirement. Additionaly raids take a minimum of 3 to 6hrs to complete. Its also difficult to get 40 solid players together. The gear dependency of the game, is what ruins the game for me. I was leader of the #2 guild on my server during the first year of the game, we had just beat the top boss, Nefarion at the time, I was pretty much fully geared tier 2, then Blizz announced they were going to release a patch with more higher gear, also they announced a future expansion was underway with more dungeons and a higher level cap. I knew at then, it was time to leave. I couldnt imagine spending that many hours again just to have good gear. I actually sold my account for $1200 and another $900 for the gold. $2100 for wasting my life for an entire year? Definetly not worth it.
At least in DAOC you could get the good gear/levels/ML..., after that was out of the way, you could log in whenever you wanted and pvp for a few hours at your leisure.
In UO (casual gamers paradise), you could log in anytime or very little and always feel like you were accomplishing something worthwhile. So many things you could do.
Compete, Casual and WoW absolutely do not mix. Thier is no casual in WoW and still being able to do endgame content. You are either immersing your entire life into a video game, or you have to live with the fact that you wont be able to be in the guilds with highly skilled players.
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This forum is the "General Forum" subjects relating to "mmorpg's" and therefore this topic fits just fine here.
If we limited this forum to just those mmorpg's that weren't otherwise represented it would be pretty quiet here
Same here. I've played the game since beta on and off and just recently quit. It's a good game, but i was not immersed. Having to LFG all the time and just grind/quests..i felt the need to play something that was very immersive and something that i could put my 100% in easily.....Lol...i started playing NWN 1 (a single player game).
I fail at mmorpgs at the moment lol
you wanna quit?
just type /played
think about it
and then use your webbrowser...
Agreed. Think about all those hours, days, months and years you've spent in front of a computer screen when you could be living life. Playing MMOs is fine, but when you can't quit or when you neglect other areas of your life, you should deinstall and do something else.
Hell, there are even rehab centers now for people addicted to online games. Sad.
http://www.TheGamersAssociation.com
I can't count the number of times I have tried to quit Warcrack. Blizzard has created their own legal drug. Moderation is thrown out the door for many, many people when they play games like WoW. Unlike tradition video games, the MMO player is compelled to play every chance to be able to keep up with the Jones. Everyone is compelled to play as much as the next person. The 30 year old parent with a full time job feels compelled to keep up with the 17 year old that is off on spring break. The 13 year old that has a bright academic outlook starts to let his studies drop in order to keep up with his 20 something guildmates that have made whatever MMO their second fulltime job.
It is the beauty and the curse of MMOs. The beauty is you always feel that you have something to work towards. But the curse is that you have to spend countless hours in order to keep up with the next guy or girl.
I really got into WoW big time shortly after my daughter was born. At first it really worked out well, she slept all day, I got to play WoW and just had to do the occasional diaper chance. But then soon she was crawling and then walking and my while my free time with her should have been 100% directed towards her, often I would be come distracted by the game. While I never let the game come before taking care of her, I can easily see how some people could allow the game to distract them to even ignore their children, friends or spouses.
WoW holds a funny place for me. Personally I don't really know why I like the game so much and keep coming back. I have played other MMOs that I enjoyed the storyline of much more and so on. Yet for some reason I always find myself coming back to it. I recently took a month break from the game, yet not a day went by that I didn't think about playing again and of course finally gave in. I don't know what it is that Blizzard has managed to do with WoW, but there is something about the game that is so addictive.
For as much as I loved other MMOs while I played them like EQ2, GW and such, none of them have ever had the hold on me that WoW constantly manages to maintain.
I do believe that people need to practice moderation and self control. But I also know that sometimes that is easier said than done. In the end I really don't think it is a great conspiracy or anything. I just think that Blizzard has managed to make a game that while isn't anything truely special has the right balance of gaming elements and user controls to make it so easy to get into and play.
Sorry for my rambling.
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Currently Playing: Guild Wars 2 and Path of Exile
Quit: Eden Eternal, Wakfu, DDO, STO, DCUO, Sword 2, Atlantica Online, LOTRO, SWTOR, RIFT, Earthrise, FFXIV, RoM, Allods Online, GA,WAR,CO,V:SoH,POTBS,TR,COH/COV, WOW, DDO,AL, EQ, Eve, L2, AA, Mx0, SWG, SoR, AO, RFO, DAoC, and others.
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WoW sucks, period.
That's not to say that some other games arn't addictive though. The randomly generated missions in City of Villains and Anarchy Online are fantastic, but the leveling rate is too slow for my personal taste in CoV and Anarchy Online isn't my cup of tea.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
Game(s) I Am Currently Playing:
GW2 (+LoL and BF3)
As far as WoW gear to advance, if you don't raid you still can get decent PvP sets, but either way you are still going to have to spend crazy amount of time in order to keep up with the jones.
In the end to me even though I continue to keep coming back to WoW, it is always an Arms Race to get the best gear. I have always hated that gear dependency.
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Currently Playing: Guild Wars 2 and Path of Exile
Quit: Eden Eternal, Wakfu, DDO, STO, DCUO, Sword 2, Atlantica Online, LOTRO, SWTOR, RIFT, Earthrise, FFXIV, RoM, Allods Online, GA,WAR,CO,V:SoH,POTBS,TR,COH/COV, WOW, DDO,AL, EQ, Eve, L2, AA, Mx0, SWG, SoR, AO, RFO, DAoC, and others.
www.twitter.com/mlwhitt
www.michaelwhitt.com
or just shoot yourself in the head
Which FF Character Are You?
It's amazing that grown adults realize when they have an online gaming problem, and can't find a way to quit.
Cancel your account, deinstall the game, then throw away your CDs. Problem solved.
http://www.TheGamersAssociation.com
Im not sure the OP meant "Addicted" literally. More like an exxageration, like me saying "Oh my God this is the best pizza in the world", or "That is just the worst". More of a figure of speech.
Gotta add in though, lately my WoW playing has suffered from console games. Splinter Cell Double Agent, Justice League Heroes, and Phantasy Star Universe.(havent played online yet) Also rediscovered some old favorites like D&D Heroes and Prince of Persia:Sands of Time. Been having a ball with my dusty old X-Box again. He was so lonely.....
"The touch is cold
I tore a path screaming through wind and blood
I will it all
Burning deep in my skull"
-Mastodon "Crystal Skull"
WoW addiction, is MMO addiction of the WORST kind.
If you want a competitive character you are basically forced to raid 30+ hours a week during primetime. Mainly because of a terrible cycle, if you want to be in the leading guilds you will be required to attend the majority of raids. Raids are usually only ran during primetime due to the 40 man requirement. Additionaly raids take a minimum of 3 to 6hrs to complete. Its also difficult to get 40 solid players together. The gear dependency of the game, is what ruins the game for me. I was leader of the #2 guild on my server during the first year of the game, we had just beat the top boss, Nefarion at the time, I was pretty much fully geared tier 2, then Blizz announced they were going to release a patch with more higher gear, also they announced a future expansion was underway with more dungeons and a higher level cap. I knew at then, it was time to leave. I couldnt imagine spending that many hours again just to have good gear. I actually sold my account for $1200 and another $900 for the gold. $2100 for wasting my life for an entire year? Definetly not worth it.
At least in DAOC you could get the good gear/levels/ML..., after that was out of the way, you could log in whenever you wanted and pvp for a few hours at your leisure.
In UO (casual gamers paradise), you could log in anytime or very little and always feel like you were accomplishing something worthwhile. So many things you could do.
Compete, Casual and WoW absolutely do not mix. Thier is no casual in WoW and still being able to do endgame content. You are either immersing your entire life into a video game, or you have to live with the fact that you wont be able to be in the guilds with highly skilled players.