Mixing the races

Joliust · November 2006

Will a chaos and a greenskin ever fight side by side? My question is will different races be able to travel to their allies lands and find there? I get the impression no but I have never seen it confirmed either way.

checkthis500 · November 2006

Originally posted by Joliust
Will a chaos and a greenskin ever fight side by side? My question is will different races be able to travel to their allies lands and find there? I get the impression no but I have never seen it confirmed either way.

yes you can fight side by side with your allies. Greenskins can fight along side chaos and dark elves. Humans can fight along side dwarfs and elves.

You do have your immediate foes, which is basically racial hatred between two opposing forces. i.e. dwarfs hate greenskins and that's who they'll see first, but they'll be able to travel to the human lands to fight chaos and to the elf lands to fight the dark elves.

ScottElwood · November 2006

Check out this video:

http://www.war-rvr.net/mediaplayer/?id=8

It's a pretty good explination of the RvR system, and it answers your question.

WendoXXX · November 2006

the thing is that all the "standard" enemy factions will probobly not be seen at all hafter a while since they are really only starting points if iv understood it right. So after a while every battlefield will be a large mix of races.

Originally posted by ScottElwood
Check out this video:

http://www.war-rvr.net/mediaplayer/?id=8

It's a pretty good explination of the RvR system, and it answers your question.

ooo thx alot for that site btw.

Volkmar · November 2006

Originally posted by WendoXXX

the thing is that all the "standard" enemy factions will probobly not be seen at all hafter a while since they are really only starting points if iv understood it right. So after a while every battlefield will be a large mix of races.

Originally posted by ScottElwood
Check out this video:

http://www.war-rvr.net/mediaplayer/?id=8

It's a pretty good explination of the RvR system, and it answers your question.

ooo thx alot for that site btw.

well, to a point i would say. As a Dwarf or a Orc, i prolly will care quite a lot about MY capital city and MY Racial leader. So i would say there will be more dwarfs in dwarfland than elsewhere... unless the dwarfslands are quiet and, say, the humans needs big help against Chaos.

eumenidex · November 2006

Yes!

Thats actualy the way they intend to balance to conflict when one race heavily outnumbers another. I don't have any realy good ideas How thats going to work(i just assume everyone will just zwerg the "Hotspots" every day), But they are confident in a couple interviews that the triple front "war" will work to prevent the advantages of overpopulation among certain races.

callmetoby · November 2006

Originally posted by eumenidex

Yes!
Thats actualy the way they intend to balance to conflict when one race heavily outnumbers another. I don't have any realy good ideas How thats going to work(i just assume everyone will just zwerg the "Hotspots" every day), But they are confident in a couple interviews that the triple front "war" will work to prevent the advantages of overpopulation among certain races.

I think what that means is focusing on one front leaves two fronts vunerable to attack. If the destruction zerg is attacking on the greenskin front, pushing back the dwarven strongholds, they are leaving the chaos and dark elf areas open for attack, in which case Order can send groups to assault those areas. Destruction then has to make the decision between either continuing their assault or a number breaking off and defending their homefront. How this effects population, I'm not sure. But I can see how it effects numbers of active forces in the field.

COAgamer · November 2006

Originally posted by Volkmar

Well, to a point i would say. As a Dwarf or a Orc, i prolly will care quite a lot about MY capital city and MY Racial leader. So i would say there will be more dwarfs in dwarfland than elsewhere... unless the dwarfslands are quiet and, say, the humans needs big help against Chaos.

True, very true. The only thing you have to remember is when your enemies are over run and taken out where are their enemies going to next? Or what if all the factions on one side team up for a push to take one of the capitals as quickly as possible? So I think everyone will care about their own conflicts the most, but you have to remember what happens if an ally falls.

dolearon · November 2006

If that where to happin, then the other 2 capitals would be left open to a Blitz Kreig by the other 2, so in the end the side that teamed up would lose 2 capitals and gain 1, but then they will move there army to anoth capital and the other team will move in and take that one back or take the 3rd capital. then they would move on again and again the other side would swoop in and take one it would be an endless cycle until both armys dcided to engage each other on the feild and the cycle would be broken with both forces breaking as they hit each other.

Joliust · November 2006

Originally posted by dolearon
If that where to happin, then the other 2 capitals would be left open to a Blitz Kreig by the other 2, so in the end the side that teamed up would lose 2 capitals and gain 1, but then they will move there army to anoth capital and the other team will move in and take that one back or take the 3rd capital. then they would move on again and again the other side would swoop in and take one it would be an endless cycle until both armys dcided to engage each other on the feild and the cycle would be broken with both forces breaking as they hit each other.

that is assuming that the sides were all organized like a library. There will be quit a few guilds and players that wont know or care about some big push in another sector, because they are busy in a different area/don't feel like traveling up to said area/want to defend their capitol/don't have any idea what is going on.

So the best your going to get in a few large armies grouping up, but i doubt you will see a real high % of one side hitting an enemy capitol.

Uglek · November 2006

While in theory this could happen in pratice it rarely does. Best case you have a guild or guild alliance run on a capital that may make some gain but will fall apart in the long run. Of course in WAR things could be different.

checkthis500 · November 2006

Originally posted by dolearon
If that where to happin, then the other 2 capitals would be left open to a Blitz Kreig by the other 2, so in the end the side that teamed up would lose 2 capitals and gain 1, but then they will move there army to anoth capital and the other team will move in and take that one back or take the 3rd capital. then they would move on again and again the other side would swoop in and take one it would be an endless cycle until both armys dcided to engage each other on the feild and the cycle would be broken with both forces breaking as they hit each other.

You're forgetting the key part to being able to attack a capital city. You have to have control of the zones leading up to the capital city. So that's your zone, the neutral zone in between and the opposing zone in tier 4. Then you'll be able to attack the capital city. There's hardly a chance that a group would be able to move from one capital city to another considering that they'd have to take 3 other zones in the process. This will make things clearer:

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Joliust · November 2006

I think that implied. I believe we are talking about a side making a large push in an area. So that would include any conquest. We are just using the capitol as an example. Then again maybe we arn't.

Basically the discussion has broken down into, would a large organized attack in one area be worth it since you could be leaving to fronts open.

checkthis500 · November 2006

Originally posted by Joliust
I think that implied. I believe we are talking about a side making a large push in an area. So that would include any conquest. We are just using the capitol as an example. Then again maybe we arn't. :DBasically the discussion has broken down into, would a large organized attack in one area be worth it since you could be leaving to fronts open.

Well it all depends on how many of the other areas you have lost. I think depending on what you could risk losing, it could be beneficial to put all your forces into one area. But since there's no way to put the "majority" of the forces of destruction or order for a particular server into one area, I think the opposing faction would be able to counter your forces with a force of their own either directly against you, or against another front.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out in the game. I think a lot of strategies will be tried, but I don't think a lot of them will be successful.

Mdkt0 · December 2006

actually yes, because there has been video documents saying "battles that involve the entire server populace"

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