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MISTAPAIN
Member Posts: 4
I'll start out by mentioning that I've been playing eve for 2.5 years now. With each new update, the game gets worse. They add new content to hide thier inability to keep a stable, lag free server. Eve Online has lost a number of veteran players, myself included due to the fact that they will not listen to the concerns of those who actually play the game. They want to bring in lots of new subscribers, and jam pack a server thats already overloaded.
I've spent a year and a half doing the industrial thing, I spent a year doing pvp. I ran mid size, successful corporations, and have been a member in serveral of the largest and most successful alliances in the game. I've come, i've played and im done with eve.
I will say that the game is unique. Its a great concept, and they balance pvp, pve and mission runners very well. The market system is incredable for all players, new and old, and anyone can become a great player if they have some patience and are mature enough to handle a complex game. But eve is indeed complex, there is nothing that comes easy. If you want to truely experiance eve, you have to put everything on the line and risk getting killed by pirates, and those trying to muscle you and your corp out of business.
Lag is the primary game killer folks, and it gets worse with each week. I suggest until CCP gets thier act together, that people find themselves another mmo to play. Its sad really, eve was such a great game. I post this as my 3 active accounts are in the last days of paid play. I hope new players will read this and make an educated decision about getting invovled in a game that will simply break thier heart if they do get to love it. Also, don't join expected to fly HUGE ships and kick the crap out of people playing the game for years. Simply put...won't happen. It takes a long time in eve, 6 months and up to begin really seeing what the game is all about. It was a different place 2.5 years ago then it is now, keep that in mind.
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There's always been lag to some extent (although during Castor it was mostly client-side lag, with server-side lag being module delay in very large battles), and while this is the worst lag (ever?), I think people wouldn't be as concerned about it if it wasn't for the other half of the failure team - PoSWAR.
I'm not exactly sure who was responsible for the atrocity of game mechanics that is 0.0 sovereignty, but they really ought to be lined up against a wall and shot. PoSes just in and of themselves are a soul-crushing abomination to maintain, but thats nothing compared to what you have to do to take/keep space.
Either lag or POSes individually would be bad - together they really make territorial warfare pointless IMO, and with that goes most of the fun of combat, and by extension the fun in the game.
well you make a good point. For probably 75% of the people lag really isnt a problem. If your in empire, yea it can be bad from time to time, worse now then it ever used to be. But 0.0 alliance warfare is impossible these days withoput crashing a node. Its pathetic, and as thats all i have done since I started playing eve, was live and operate in 0.0, I can't stand it anymore.
All I have to say is this. Traffic Control for a system with 1 person in it, 4tl. The simple fact that the devs have placed Jump Lag as a quick option under the petitions is laughable. I'e used it on more then a single occasion where i could not jump i9nto a system with 1 person in it. Anyway, this is sorta a bash post, but really its a heads up to new eve gamers.
Know what your getting into, when your paying monthly for a game that takes patience to get into. Although free updates is a major plus in my book. I hope they do some major hardware upgrades in the future, and yes I mean more then the recent pathetic attempt at a server upgrade. If they do that, and actually "try" to develop the game for the vets rather then the new guys, i'd be back in a heart beat.
CCP is doing what they can. You have to understand that they are treading on new ground that NOONE else has been before with the online concurrent users in a single virtual world. There is no model for CCP to go off of on how to reduce lag in their situation because noone has ever been in their situation. This is what happens when your in the forefront of a specific technology.
Well first of al i guess i should say ive yet to meet any lag apart from the 1 second delay at gates and leaving stations in buisy palces like jita.
You do know that the Ques are there for stability reasons dont you?
And you do know how extensive the dragon patch was [ i liken it to replacing the branches of a tree with new ones without disturbing the leaves].
One of the things done in the dragon patch was to replace the old 32 bit code with 64 bit code.
Also in dragon severall new developer data monitering tools were added so they could work out what was causing the lag.
And you do know that for the past month or so the developers ahve been doing server load testing on the test server and asking us players to log on and help?
And you do know that in a recent patch the main cause of lag with POS'S has been fixed.
Thing is The server structure is very complex in the past there was a while where you ahd the devs expalining diferent aspects on how eve's servers worked so we do know just how hard it is to get them to run properly. So when CCP changes the very bases of the programing structure Ready for kali and directX10 and for full 64 but running its little suprise that this would cause problems months down the line.
To expect otherwise is unrealistic.
haha i love the "you do know..." post. Sounds like CCP propaganda machine at work. Must be a BoB dev alt or soemething...
Anyway, yea, waiting on gates for stability...give me a break. The game is broken, and Kali will only bring more of a bad thing. As for 30k users on at once, yea great milestone...I tell you what. When 30k online members are not lagging out, and crashing nodes several times a day, then ill be impressed. Until then, the number thing doesnt mean anything to me. In fact, give me a new live server instead until lag issues can be fixed. Oh and Kali being a complete rewrite of the code? Are you serious? There are several Kali releases, and I promise you, the first few releases are not code rewrites.
Oh and if you've never experianced more then a seconds lag in eve, you havent done anything important in eve, haha. Stay in empire, mine veldspar and sure you won't get any lag, but what the hell is the point of that. I've been present for the birth of more then one outpost, i've been there when outposts have fallen. I've been there when super weapons have been activated...have you?
Oh and the server upgrades...yea, dont get me started. The system got worse in the opinions of many after the server upgrades. Stability my ass. I haven't been online in eve and not crashed more then once in a very long time. Trust me, my internet connection and computer are top dollar, so its certainly not on my side. I've dumped monthly fees on three accounts for over a year and been a member of eve online for over 2.5. The game has gone downhill, and thats the direction it continues.
Period.
haah wow again. This time the attacks are personal??!!! Well im not surprised tbh. But whatever you want to think my friend. Since you know so much, one would think you would be less hostile, but apparently those who are "highly" educated find aggression is easier then reason...
Anyway, have fun with eve. I sure as hell stopped having fun awhile back. And Dave...stop with the personal attacks, you actually don't know what your talking about when it comes to "me".
My coments were not ment to be directed at you personally but toward your above posts that seem like uneducated posts. I apologize if you took it personally.
Im sorry that you have lost interest in Eve. Farewell o
Edit: That comment does sound personal even though my intentions were not. Its suppost to go along the lines of the following sentence. I apologize. No proof reading ftl.
Can i have your stuff?
Can i have your stuff?
Sif - I need money.. living in 0.0 when your at war with 3 other alliances is bloody expensive..
By the way - for your lagg being a game wreakor, I live in those "northern hell holes" that have the "worst" lagg in the game - bar the trade hubs - The fact is, I have no idea what your going on about.. The only time lagg gets annoying is when there are 100+ ships in system attacking each other with another 50 or so trying to jump in from various gates. This includes something like 10 POS's and an Outpost. What your going on about "lagg being everywhere and game wreaking" because it is constantly being on in 0.0. The fact is your just overtly touchy when you get a slight delay.
Oh - to be frank I'm only around 11 months old in game so don't try and preach age to me being important.
Stop bashing games once you leave - it's not important that you have to fix your ego everytime you give up on something.
(spelling and typing errors fixed)
"Just because there are other colours to use in chat does not mean you have to use them..." - Please follow
You get used to it.
And yes, people saying that lag is 'not a major issue' are insane.
I stick to EvE
I have no lagg problems or nod for that matter
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