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New SWG article on MMOCraft.com

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  • dontchatheredontchathere Member Posts: 37
    Im almost tempted to pay 15 bucks to resubscribe just to post this article as attention devs LMAO. That is the most honest and true review ive ever seen. Better watch out though on here stradden is paranoid and will think hes gonna be sued for linking that article be careful = /
  • TrubadurenTrubaduren Member Posts: 575

    There is only 2 paths for SWG, Either it dies or Pre-CU comes back.



    btw, I saw this was your first post so welcome to the forums image

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  • SunriderSunrider Member UncommonPosts: 527

    heh... someone should emial one of the devs this link and see if they come back with the typical response of

    "the NGE is doing great! If you would just give it a try you'd love it too"

    or if they just ignore you.

    heh

    "And after blizzard takes over the world, they are gonna gather a bunch of lemmings, sit on their fat asses near a cliff, and watch the little fuzzy bastards suicide dive into the ground below. . . . . all just for their own entertainment."

  • starman999starman999 Member Posts: 1,232

    He lost me at BARON.....

    Any person who doesnt know the difference between BARREN and BARON should not be writing articles for web sites.

     

     

     

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  • ErwinnErwinn Member Posts: 48




    He lost me at BARON.....

    Any person who doesnt know the difference between BARREN and BARON should not be writing articles for web sites.

     


     .......umm wtf are you talking about?image  It appears that you are the one who doesn't understand the difference btwn the two words.  The word "baron" was never used at all. Please go back to 1st grade and  learn to read. He used the word "barren" in the right context. You sir just proved your an absolute and complete idiot.image

     




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  • MMO_ManMMO_Man Member Posts: 666

    Originally posted by starman999
    He lost me at BARON..... Any person who doesnt know the difference between BARREN and BARON should not be writing articles for web sites.      
    Bar-ren adjective
    1.not producing or incapable of producing offspring; sterile: a barren woman.
    2.unproductive; unfruitful: barren land.
    3.without capacity to interest or attract: a barren period in American architecture.
    4.mentally unproductive; dull; stupid.
    5.not producing results; fruitless: a barren effort.
    6.destitute; bereft; lacking (usually fol. by of): barren of tender feelings.
    It looks like you're the one who doesn't know the diference. lol noob


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  • sienosieno Member Posts: 119

    The Classic [Pre-Cu] game is coming back, whether SOE does it or not.

     

     

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    You want loot? Go kill some npcs, you wanna visit hades? come find ME, and dont forget to bring coins for the ferryman,

  • DodeceDodece Member Posts: 76

    Though I really do agree with the sentiment of the author. I cannot help, but feal it has been said before. Okay every single day someone new says it. Well a few dozen new someones. The author simply says what everyone else has said, and not in a very original way.

    The truth is the NGE is of such horrific quality that you can come at it from any direction, and hit the proverbial gold mine. You need not even look. Pick any particular aspect, follow it logically, and you will be tripping over serious design flaws. You cannot fail at this there is nowhere the NGE actually succeeds at anything.

    That being common knowledge. I have to ask why didn't the author choose another direction of attack. Rather then the now standard frontal assault. The article comes off unimaginative, and the cliche of attacking the developement staff though very true. Probabally would not sting as much as a completely objective one. Leave your emotions at the door, and what you say carries more merit.

    I like to read honest reviews of the NGE, but I felt this one was done without imagination. What the author is saying is true, but it is so generic as to not even be worth notice. Probabally not worth reading, and that is what any writer should try to avoid. Even if the readers were totally ignorant of the subject it could still have been written with a greater artistic sense.

  • haxxjoohaxxjoo Member Posts: 924



    Originally posted by Dodece

    Though I really do agree with the sentiment of the author. I cannot help, but feal it has been said before. Okay every single day someone new says it. Well a few dozen new someones. The author simply says what everyone else has said, and not in a very original way.
    The truth is the NGE is of such horrific quality that you can come at it from any direction, and hit the proverbial gold mine. You need not even look. Pick any particular aspect, follow it logically, and you will be tripping over serious design flaws. You cannot fail at this there is nowhere the NGE actually succeeds at anything.
    That being common knowledge. I have to ask why didn't the author choose another direction of attack. Rather then the now standard frontal assault. The article comes off unimaginative, and the cliche of attacking the developement staff though very true. Probabally would not sting as much as a completely objective one. Leave your emotions at the door, and what you say carries more merit.
    I like to read honest reviews of the NGE, but I felt this one was done without imagination. What the author is saying is true, but it is so generic as to not even be worth notice. Probabally not worth reading, and that is what any writer should try to avoid. Even if the readers were totally ignorant of the subject it could still have been written with a greater artistic sense.



    When I read he played alot of wow my standards where lowered considerably on what to expect from the review :P

    Just kidding by the way.

    I did find the fact the interface still has major issues to be informative.  A non functional interface that requires restarts to fix?

    That is pretty damning of sub par quality.  Talk about lame QA not picking up that flaw.  As for the digs about content, cities and other various opinions I found that really lacking.  He didn't use a lot of citing and examples.  It makes it to much of an editorial.

    Non related.  Remember to Vote on Tuesday.

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261



    Originally posted by haxxjoo



    Originally posted by Dodece

    Though I really do agree with the sentiment of the author. I cannot help, but feal it has been said before. Okay every single day someone new says it. Well a few dozen new someones. The author simply says what everyone else has said, and not in a very original way.
    The truth is the NGE is of such horrific quality that you can come at it from any direction, and hit the proverbial gold mine. You need not even look. Pick any particular aspect, follow it logically, and you will be tripping over serious design flaws. You cannot fail at this there is nowhere the NGE actually succeeds at anything.
    That being common knowledge. I have to ask why didn't the author choose another direction of attack. Rather then the now standard frontal assault. The article comes off unimaginative, and the cliche of attacking the developement staff though very true. Probabally would not sting as much as a completely objective one. Leave your emotions at the door, and what you say carries more merit.
    I like to read honest reviews of the NGE, but I felt this one was done without imagination. What the author is saying is true, but it is so generic as to not even be worth notice. Probabally not worth reading, and that is what any writer should try to avoid. Even if the readers were totally ignorant of the subject it could still have been written with a greater artistic sense.


    When I read he played alot of wow my standards where lowered considerably on what to expect from the review :P

    Just kidding by the way.

    I did find the fact the interface still has major issues to be informative.  A non functional interface that requires restarts to fix?

    That is pretty damning of sub par quality.  Talk about lame QA not picking up that flaw.  As for the digs about content, cities and other various opinions I found that really lacking.  He didn't use a lot of citing and examples.  It makes it to much of an editorial.

    Non related.  Remember to Vote on Tuesday.



    That was one of the issues I had with the "review."  I've not ever experienced an issue with the UI where I need to restart the game to fix it and I've not heard of others that have had such an issue until this review.  Not even seen any posts about it on the Official forums.

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  • chlaoschlaos Member Posts: 1,118



    Originally posted by starman999

    He lost me at BARON.....
    Any person who doesnt know the difference between BARREN and BARON should not be writing articles for web sites.
     
     
     



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  • acmtalkacmtalk Member Posts: 405
    hehe the link needs to be posted at Soe's boards over and over.


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  • SODAofBRIASODAofBRIA Member Posts: 351



    Originally posted by starman999

    He lost me at BARON.....
    Any person who doesnt know the difference between BARREN and BARON should not be writing articles for web sites.
     
     
     




    LOL

    Nice try, but you still fail.

    Why don't you make some more things up?

    Love, Sodapop

  • CerethCereth Member Posts: 23
    Now if he'd said "I'd rather play with my own feces than play SWG:NGE", that would  have at least been original.

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  • SunriderSunrider Member UncommonPosts: 527


    Originally posted by starman999
    He lost me at BARON.....
    Any person who doesnt know the difference between BARREN and BARON should not be writing articles for web sites.




    actually hes correct. the article was posted when it said "baron" instead of "barren". they must have fixed it.

    so ya'll harrassing him, relax.

    "And after blizzard takes over the world, they are gonna gather a bunch of lemmings, sit on their fat asses near a cliff, and watch the little fuzzy bastards suicide dive into the ground below. . . . . all just for their own entertainment."

  • gnarlsbarklygnarlsbarkly Member Posts: 28
    just checked the link this morning cause i wanted to read it, but it's been "temporarily pulled."  The editor says he wants to do it more justice and that it will be back up.  I wonder if he's getting some pressure from $oe.  Either way he better be making it more scathing of an article, but you never know with $oe probably whining to get it "balanced."

    pending

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261



    Originally posted by gnarlsbarkly
    just checked the link this morning cause i wanted to read it, but it's been "temporarily pulled."  The editor says he wants to do it more justice and that it will be back up.  I wonder if he's getting some pressure from $oe.  Either way he better be making it more scathing of an article, but you never know with $oe probably whining to get it "balanced."


    Good.  There were a number of things that were wrong with it.  I was going to make a reply about them but can't now since they've taken the original down :P

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  • CerethCereth Member Posts: 23

    The only thing really wrong with the article was that it basically consisted of recycled ideas that have been written a thousand times before.

    What kinds of things were you going to write about Obraik? Were you going to argue that the NGE/CU has been anything short of a complete and utter failure? How can you possibly derive any enjoyment from what SWG has become? Are you f**king delusional? Please, enlighten us with your wisdom. image

    Stop defending the NGE already! Admit that it is a steaming pile of sh*t! Stop fooling yourself into believeing that $OE is actually trying to deliver its customer base an enjoyable game! They don't give a crap about you or anyone else. You are worse than a battered wife who stays with her abusive husband, trying to tell herself that the drunk bastard still loves her. Stop being an $OE wh*re already. image

    The next time you log into SWG, look around you. How many people are logged in with you? Travel to Theed, and tell me how many people are there. Then try to tell us that the NGE isn't that bad.

    Sit down and shut up.

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  • chlaoschlaos Member Posts: 1,118



    Originally posted by Sunrider




    Originally posted by starman999
    He lost me at BARON.....
    Any person who doesnt know the difference between BARREN and BARON should not be writing articles for web sites.





    actually hes correct. the article was posted when it said "baron" instead of "barren". they must have fixed it.

    so ya'll harrassing him, relax.



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  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261



    Originally posted by Cereth

    The only thing really wrong with the article was that it basically consisted of recycled ideas that have been written a thousand times before.
    What kinds of things were you going to write about Obraik? Were you going to argue that the NGE/CU has been anything short of a complete and utter failure? How can you possibly derive any enjoyment from what SWG has become? Are you f**king delusional? Please, enlighten us with your wisdom. image
    Stop defending the NGE already! Admit that it is a steaming pile of sh*t! Stop fooling yourself into believeing that $OE is actually trying to deliver its customer base an enjoyable game! They don't give a crap about you or anyone else. You are worse than a battered wife who stays with her abusive husband, trying to tell herself that the drunk bastard still loves her. Stop being an $OE wh*re already. image
    The next time you log into SWG, look around you. How many people are logged in with you? Travel to Theed, and tell me how many people are there. Then try to tell us that the NGE isn't that bad.
    Sit down and shut up.



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    There were a number of things that the article wrote about, such as the UI thing, that was quite wrong or at least not as widespread as he was making them out to be. 

    As for the rest of your post.  No, I'm not suffering from battered wife syndrome.  You'd be correct if I had quit the game, re-subbed, voiced my dislike for it but continued to sub to it.

    The only time I'm not around other people in game is because I choose not to be.

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  • CerethCereth Member Posts: 23

    Those must be some pretty "rose colored glasses" you're wearing. When you're looking at a turd through them, do you see a flower? image

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  • BaronJuJuBaronJuJu Member UncommonPosts: 1,832

    Looks like they pulled the article:

    "I've temporarily pulled the Article. Rest assured that it will be back up within a short period of time. Looking over the article it doesn't meet certain criteria, namely. It doesn't do the site or the audience justice. In other words it can be better, and I don't believe in sub par work.

    Sincerely,

    Cheif Editor
    MMOCraft.com"

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  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261



    Originally posted by Cereth

    Those must be some pretty "rose colored glasses" you're wearing. When you're looking at a turd through them, do you see a flower? image



    Do you look back at pre-cu and see a flower?

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  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489



    Originally posted by Obraik



    Originally posted by Cereth

    Those must be some pretty "rose colored glasses" you're wearing. When you're looking at a turd through them, do you see a flower? image


    Do you look back at pre-cu and see a flower?



    I don't. Pre-CU needed balance & tweaking. I look back and see fun gameplay, adventure, population, unique characters, growing player cities, hundreds of hours of fun & friends that play.

    I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • ManmadegodManmadegod Member Posts: 501
    Shrug, the only things that I know for sure is this: I will never purchase another Sony product due to their blatant disregard for players. The fact that they have shifted the game around so much is nothing short of deplorable. The original concept and incarnation of the game had it's own creative design that made it unique and not just a clone; however, as you can now see after the "enhancements" it are those things no more.


    I wont try to ruin those few that currently play the NGE's fun. Instead, I will say that the game in my eyes and those of the vocal and silent majority see the game in it's current state as a injustice to gamers around the globe and continue to fight for what they believe in. I respect them for that and I say fight the injustice - It shouldn't be that the people fear the direction of the game but that the developers and corporate conglomorates fear the reaction of the people to the direction of the game.

    The beginning of a new era of gaming will occur when players are completely fed up with being treated like 3rd class consumers and children. Only a movement of thought and action on behalf of the player base will lead to this. Throw off your chains gamers, it's time for us to rightfully take control of the gaming industry from the inside. I salute all of you who defend the old incarnation of SWG. They shoved and we FINALLY shoved back.

    /salute



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