You know guys you need to use some logic here. Just because someone breaks the NDA(which is their problem) it doesnt make their points any less valid. Trying to change the topic to it is simply pathetic.
It's better be hated for who you are, than loved for who you aren't.
as someone in the vanguard beta right now, all i have to say is what the hell are you talking about? the gameplay is nothing like wow. even with the nda on clampdown, i can give you one solid reason straight from the art director, "by endgame each class will have 100 or more skills". compare that to wow's handful of decently balanced skills. also, the grapics are not like eq2, almost in the least. you can see forever, the area is all pretty much bright and realistically sunbleached while eq2 sticks to forests and dark areas. the graphics are nothing like each other in the actual build either. while eq2 tried to make everything look real and plastic, vanguard's graphics have a unique style to them. you can see that there were in fact artists that designed them rather than some computer program. as for grinding, there really isn't any in vanguard. the first while in newbie land were boring but as soon as you got out of that it turned into something entirely different.
you want to comment on being led around in mmo's, guild wars should have been your top choice. let's put a dot on the map and arrows that tell you exactly where to go. you know? why not give you some fake party members since you are playing a fake mmo, this way you can say you play mmo's but never really have to be made fun of for not knowing how to play.
bottom line: stop talking. you don't know what you're talking about obviously, and rather than stay out of things you felt you had to publicly embarrass yourself. well good job, you win.
Previews and reviews are all well and good but unless you are smart enough to seperate the previewer/reviewer's personal opinions from any actual facts and useful information then reading them will only make you biased.
If you really want to know if a game suits your needs or playstyle you should look at only the facts. Dont worry about whether so and so thinks its boring or someone else thinks it is too much like another game. Go read the FAQs yourself and study up on what the game has and is.
Last but not least try the game before forming an opinion about it. You will never really know whether the game is for you if you dont at least try it out. How many 50 dollar single player games have you brought home from the store thinking it would be just awesome because the back of the box said it was? You regret buying the ones that were crappy but how would you ever have known if you hadnt tried it?
Critical thinking is a desire to seek, patience to doubt, fondness to meditate, slowness to assert, readiness to consider, carefulness to dispose and set in order; and hatred for every kind of imposture.
MAN people can be hard on a game they've only seen screenshots of.
Turbine has good ideas and follows through with them. DDO was never meant to be an MMO and they stuck to that. It never got HUGE because of that but the fans of it love it for what it is, not what everyone else wanted it to be. I respect and admire that in a game company.
I can trust Turbine do make this game what they originally intended it to be:
"Experience an epic storyline through hundreds of quests created as a companion to The Lord of the Rings. Adventure in familiar areas as well as new ones, created for the game, which were only briefly touched on by J.R.R. Tolkien in his master works. Experience Middle-earth as never before as you swim the Brandywine River or make your way through the mists of the Old Forest. Turbine, working closely with Tolkien Enterprises, has created what Gamedaily calls "...a must have title for fans of Tolkien lore." (Quoted from the bottom of this page)
as someone in the vanguard beta right now, all i have to say is what the hell are you talking about? the gameplay is nothing like wow. even with the nda on clampdown, i can give you one solid reason straight from the art director, "by endgame each class will have 100 or more skills". compare that to wow's handful of decently balanced skills. also, the grapics are not like eq2, almost in the least. you can see forever, the area is all pretty much bright and realistically sunbleached while eq2 sticks to forests and dark areas. the graphics are nothing like each other in the actual build either. while eq2 tried to make everything look real and plastic, vanguard's graphics have a unique style to them. you can see that there were in fact artists that designed them rather than some computer program. as for grinding, there really isn't any in vanguard. the first while in newbie land were boring but as soon as you got out of that it turned into something entirely different.
you want to comment on being led around in mmo's, guild wars should have been your top choice. let's put a dot on the map and arrows that tell you exactly where to go. you know? why not give you some fake party members since you are playing a fake mmo, this way you can say you play mmo's but never really have to be made fun of for not knowing how to play.
bottom line: stop talking. you don't know what you're talking about obviously, and rather than stay out of things you felt you had to publicly embarrass yourself. well good job, you win.
Guess you should actualy LOOK at EQ2 once before making your feeble attempts at an argument. The races that are shared looks almost Identical, a lot of the armor designs look very similar, the way armor looks plastic is also similar....vanguard graphics ARE Eq2, just having the benefit of several years more development and technology.
Ohh and I'm SOOO glad you believe everything that the people MAKING the game (who have to hype it at every opportunity) tell you to believe. I'm happy you showed your intelligence by believing everything the salesmen tell you.
There's plenty of grind in vanguard unless, ofcourse, you're a kid and have time to play the game for 6+ hours a day, in which case I'm not surprized you think there's no grind to it. But from actualy playing the game, and from what the developers say their vision for the game is, there's plenty of grinding in the game. It starts realy slowing down at about the high teens.
And I dont consider guild wars an MMO, i consider it a single player RPG with a big online game mode.
Could you also explain how I dont know what I'm talking about if I've played since beta 2, and followed the game before that, only quitting very recently?
Or did you just run out of things the developers told you to believe about the game?
Originally posted by Gonodil Originally posted by foulu625 as someone in the vanguard beta right now, all i have to say is what the hell are you talking about? the gameplay is nothing like wow. even with the nda on clampdown, i can give you one solid reason straight from the art director, "by endgame each class will have 100 or more skills". compare that to wow's handful of decently balanced skills. also, the grapics are not like eq2, almost in the least. you can see forever, the area is all pretty much bright and realistically sunbleached while eq2 sticks to forests and dark areas. the graphics are nothing like each other in the actual build either. while eq2 tried to make everything look real and plastic, vanguard's graphics have a unique style to them. you can see that there were in fact artists that designed them rather than some computer program. as for grinding, there really isn't any in vanguard. the first while in newbie land were boring but as soon as you got out of that it turned into something entirely different.
you want to comment on being led around in mmo's, guild wars should have been your top choice. let's put a dot on the map and arrows that tell you exactly where to go. you know? why not give you some fake party members since you are playing a fake mmo, this way you can say you play mmo's but never really have to be made fun of for not knowing how to play.
bottom line: stop talking. you don't know what you're talking about obviously, and rather than stay out of things you felt you had to publicly embarrass yourself. well good job, you win.
Guess you should actualy LOOK at EQ2 once before making your feeble attempts at an argument. The races that are shared looks almost Identical, a lot of the armor designs look very similar, the way armor looks plastic is also similar....vanguard graphics ARE Eq2, just having the benefit of several years more development and technology.
Ohh and I'm SOOO glad you believe everything that the people MAKING the game (who have to hype it at every opportunity) tell you to believe. I'm happy you showed your intelligence by believing everything the salesmen tell you.
There's plenty of grind in vanguard unless, ofcourse, you're a kid and have time to play the game for 6+ hours a day, in which case I'm not surprized you think there's no grind to it. But from actualy playing the game, and from what the developers say their vision for the game is, there's plenty of grinding in the game. It starts realy slowing down at about the high teens.
And I dont consider guild wars an MMO, i consider it a single player RPG with a big online game mode.
Could you also explain how I dont know what I'm talking about if I've played since beta 2, and followed the game before that, only quitting very recently?
Or did you just run out of things the developers told you to believe about the game?
i play eq2. just figured i'd throw that out since your only defense apparently is "no, you don't know what you're talking about." you confuse grind with large levels. just because it takes a long time to level, doesn't mean it's all grind. yeah i guess vanguard is just ripping the races off of eq2, that originally ripped off d&d, which ripped off tolkien and numerous other fantasy writers dating back to when england owned most of the world. these races have been around forever, the will continue to be around forever. the fact that brad mcquaid is heading this game even makes it less of an eq2 rip-off and more of a "i've been doing this since day one." kind of thing. at first i thought vanguard sucked. the newbie level almost ruined the game, but after that it does get incredibly good. and as for what the people making the game say, i could care less. i only look at facts that they have. i don't care about their vision, the experience, yada yada yada. i want a fun game. vanguard delievers on that. quite well.
i play eq2. just figured i'd throw that out since your only defense apparently is "no, you don't know what you're talking about." you confuse grind with large levels. just because it takes a long time to level, doesn't mean it's all grind. yeah i guess vanguard is just ripping the races off of eq2, that originally ripped off d&d, which ripped off tolkien and numerous other fantasy writers dating back to when england owned most of the world. these races have been around forever, the will continue to be around forever. the fact that brad mcquaid is heading this game even makes it less of an eq2 rip-off and more of a "i've been doing this since day one." kind of thing. at first i thought vanguard sucked. the newbie level almost ruined the game, but after that it does get incredibly good. and as for what the people making the game say, i could care less. i only look at facts that they have. i don't care about their vision, the experience, yada yada yada. i want a fun game. vanguard delievers on that. quite well.
Sorry, I wasnt going to make up some elaborate and eloquent defense against a kid that screams "OMG, YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU TALKING ABoUT, AND I DO!!"
Way to sugar coat grinding...its just long levels...riiiiiight.
There's also a difference between using the same idea and using models that look almost identical.
Originally posted by Gonodil Originally posted by foulu625i play eq2. just figured i'd throw that out since your only defense apparently is "no, you don't know what you're talking about." you confuse grind with large levels. just because it takes a long time to level, doesn't mean it's all grind. yeah i guess vanguard is just ripping the races off of eq2, that originally ripped off d&d, which ripped off tolkien and numerous other fantasy writers dating back to when england owned most of the world. these races have been around forever, the will continue to be around forever. the fact that brad mcquaid is heading this game even makes it less of an eq2 rip-off and more of a "i've been doing this since day one." kind of thing. at first i thought vanguard sucked. the newbie level almost ruined the game, but after that it does get incredibly good. and as for what the people making the game say, i could care less. i only look at facts that they have. i don't care about their vision, the experience, yada yada yada. i want a fun game. vanguard delievers on that. quite well.
Sorry, I wasnt going to make up some elaborate and eloquent defense against a kid that screams "OMG, YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU TALKING ABoUT, AND I DO!!"
Way to sugar coat grinding...its just long levels...riiiiiight.
There's also a difference between using the same idea and using models that look almost identical.
Anyway, I'd like to get back to bashing LoTR:O
kid? right. keep judging me, it appears to be what you do. go back to bashing a game you haven't really played yet, and keep pretending you're someone to talk. remind me again, what was the name of the game you made? the one that made you millions of dollars?
Well, one's opinion is one's opinion. You can't make them change it if they don't want to.
I think that people are expecting too much when they say "innovative".
I would say the monster play pvp concept is innovative as I don't know of any game that has done that. Also, the use of "fear" might be a bit innovative as well.
But why do we have to reinvent the wheel? And is it needed.
Being innovative for the sake of being different is just as bad as doing same old same old. I think I'll agree with the idea that placing markers above npc's makes all the non quest npc's less important. But then again, how many times do you want to click on an "eye candy" npc only to hear "have a nice day" and nothing more. For me that would get old quickly.
And as far as creating your own story. Well, I suppose role players would tell you that you can just roleplay your own story.
As far as the game goes, I'm not sure if there are games where you can "create" your own story in any meaningful way. At least in a way that you can't do in what the current LOTRO is shaping up to be.
Perhaps open pvp games. But this is not an open pvp game so you are not going to be getting inter clan intrigue.
I haven't tried this game yet. I am dissapointed in the character creating. Not that I need sliders but I would have wanted more.
I don't mind grind. And I don't have 6 hours per day to play. But I do want something different to do if I choose to do it.
At least in LOTRO there are quests. I don't know if they will be good or not. That quite frankly is opinion. I personall thought that WoW's quests were fun. Not ground breaking but I actually enjoyed myself. And this is from a person who plays Lineage 2, possibly the worst quests in the mmorpg genre. I never take quests because they are so bad. Suddenly I see that another game makes them at least more entertaining and I can do them.
Now, I also think the movies might be a detriment to this game. Sure, you will get a lot of people wanting to try it because of the movies but then people are going to expect that type of setting. It doesn't look like they are going to get that. For many that will be a turn off.
I think I'll wait to pass judgement until I try the game.
As far as the review. I don't get the sense that the reviewer was getting pressure to say things other than their opinion or candy coat things.
I do get that they were being diplomatic. Quite frankly I find it refreshing. I'm tired of people bashing things in an unconstructive way just so they can be edgy. I find it far more professional to say what didn't work. I think the reviewer did a decent job of that.
And though they weren't bothered by a bit of same old same old, that is their opinion. People have to remember that that is what a review is. Opinion. "They" weren't bothered. But they do bring it up to give the general public and sense of what might be an issue.
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kid? right. keep judging me, it appears to be what you do. go back to bashing a game you haven't really played yet, and keep pretending you're someone to talk. remind me again, what was the name of the game you made? the one that made you millions of dollars?
Your logic has collapsed completely...I have to make a successful game to judge one now? Well holy crap, I guess that puts 100% of the game reviewers out there out of work!
And you're getting judged because you decided to do the same to me in your first post...awww, and you dont like it, do you?
Those people making mmos right now have set themselves a very difficult task. Rather than just churning out throwaway games that are either good or bad, they attempt to make an epic story meant to keep you entertained for several months at least. Since when did any game. mmo or not, do that for any other readers? Come to think of it, how often does a book trilogy come along that makes you want to go back and reread the entire thing as soon as you have finished reading it?
Turbine have given themselves a headstart by using LOTR in their game title. If I went ahead and started the game, then I know it will be enjoyable. What I really want is for Turbine to recreate things that I read in the book 'The Hobbit'. I don't think it is possible to capture Tolkein's world in a game of any sort. I read the LOTR trilogy simply because 'The Hobbit' was a good book, but in no way did it please me as much to read the trilogy as it did to read the prequel. I have the impression that Turbine is making LOTR into an mmo because it already fits into the categories of 'fantasy', 'popular', 'epic' and 'proven to be scalable to other media'!
The conflict I have in games like this is more about the fact that I cannot decide if I am supposed to be immersing myself in another world. That is something that games cannot do for me unless they are fast paced and exciting, just like a good book.
The review helps me see what this game will be like, but I cannot say that I am surprised at the content, since I have read so many reviews already.
p.s. thanks to mmorpg.com for accelerating games of the present into the future!
If you all liked what you read in that article, I'd highly recommend signing up for the Beta if you haven't already. We're going to be inviting a bunch of people over the coming weeks and months and it's a great opportunity to play the game and form your own opinions.
Originally posted by Calandryll_T If you all liked what you read in that article, I'd highly recommend signing up for the Beta if you haven't already. We're going to be inviting a bunch of people over the coming weeks and months and it's a great opportunity to play the game and form your own opinions. http://www.lotro.com/betasignup
What if you didn't like what you read in the article? are they invited too?
I guess the people are right when they Turbine delivers on their promises, and quote them on not promising anything but graphics>gameplay
Of all that is written, I love only what a person has written with his own blood. -Nietzsche
Originally posted by Calandryll_T If you all liked what you read in that article, I'd highly recommend signing up for the Beta if you haven't already. We're going to be inviting a bunch of people over the coming weeks and months and it's a great opportunity to play the game and form your own opinions. http://www.lotro.com/betasignup
What if you didn't like what you read in the article? are they invited too?
*chuckles* Tough crowd.
Of course. Everyone is invited to sign up! Feel free to click the link and sign up right now if you want.
Originally posted by Calandryll_T If you all liked what you read in that article, I'd highly recommend signing up for the Beta if you haven't already. We're going to be inviting a bunch of people over the coming weeks and months and it's a great opportunity to play the game and form your own opinions. http://www.lotro.com/betasignup
I already have and am awaiting with baited breath...
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Nice article. I hope Turbine was able to read this. There are so many things about this game that can be great but there seem to be some things that are bringing it down. The lack of character customizing is truly questionable. Why wouldn't Turbine want you to customize your character with sliding bars? I really hope Turbine makes some big changes in the BETA period.
Originally posted by Vallenar Nice article. I hope Turbine was able to read this. There are so many things about this game that can be great but there seem to be some things that are bringing it down. The lack of character customizing is truly questionable. Why wouldn't Turbine want you to customize your character with sliding bars? I really hope Turbine makes some big changes in the BETA period.
We have a lot of changes in store for Beta. Unfortunately I can't talk about them in detail without breaking my own NDA. The game continues to improve with every update though and we have quite a few planned in the coming months.
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Okay so we get you didnt like it. Does the N.D.A you had to agree to for the Beta allow you to violate it if you dont like the game?
Great article Dana!
I look forward to the day this game goes gold.
sounded pretty good for a beta review/preview
cant wait to get into middle earth
I however dont like the fact that CHR creation might suck from what was just told to us but if the game is good then ill look past it
It's better be hated for who you are, than loved for who you aren't.
also, the grapics are not like eq2, almost in the least. you can see forever, the area is all pretty much bright and realistically sunbleached while eq2 sticks to forests and dark areas. the graphics are nothing like each other in the actual build either. while eq2 tried to make everything look real and plastic, vanguard's graphics have a unique style to them. you can see that there were in fact artists that designed them rather than some computer program.
as for grinding, there really isn't any in vanguard. the first while in newbie land were boring but as soon as you got out of that it turned into something entirely different.
you want to comment on being led around in mmo's, guild wars should have been your top choice. let's put a dot on the map and arrows that tell you exactly where to go. you know? why not give you some fake party members since you are playing a fake mmo, this way you can say you play mmo's but never really have to be made fun of for not knowing how to play.
bottom line: stop talking. you don't know what you're talking about obviously, and rather than stay out of things you felt you had to publicly embarrass yourself. well good job, you win.
The bottom line is this.....
Previews and reviews are all well and good but unless you are smart enough to seperate the previewer/reviewer's personal opinions from any actual facts and useful information then reading them will only make you biased.
If you really want to know if a game suits your needs or playstyle you should look at only the facts. Dont worry about whether so and so thinks its boring or someone else thinks it is too much like another game. Go read the FAQs yourself and study up on what the game has and is.
Last but not least try the game before forming an opinion about it. You will never really know whether the game is for you if you dont at least try it out. How many 50 dollar single player games have you brought home from the store thinking it would be just awesome because the back of the box said it was? You regret buying the ones that were crappy but how would you ever have known if you hadnt tried it?
Critical thinking is a desire to seek, patience to doubt, fondness to meditate, slowness to assert, readiness to consider, carefulness to dispose and set in order; and hatred for every kind of imposture.
MAN people can be hard on a game they've only seen screenshots of.
Turbine has good ideas and follows through with them. DDO was never meant to be an MMO and they stuck to that. It never got HUGE because of that but the fans of it love it for what it is, not what everyone else wanted it to be. I respect and admire that in a game company.
I can trust Turbine do make this game what they originally intended it to be:
"Experience an epic storyline through hundreds of quests created as a companion to The Lord of the Rings. Adventure in familiar areas as well as new ones, created for the game, which were only briefly touched on by J.R.R. Tolkien in his master works. Experience Middle-earth as never before as you swim the Brandywine River or make your way through the mists of the Old Forest. Turbine, working closely with Tolkien Enterprises, has created what Gamedaily calls "...a must have title for fans of Tolkien lore."
(Quoted from the bottom of this page)
-Naaz.
Guess you should actualy LOOK at EQ2 once before making your feeble attempts at an argument. The races that are shared looks almost Identical, a lot of the armor designs look very similar, the way armor looks plastic is also similar....vanguard graphics ARE Eq2, just having the benefit of several years more development and technology.
Ohh and I'm SOOO glad you believe everything that the people MAKING the game (who have to hype it at every opportunity) tell you to believe. I'm happy you showed your intelligence by believing everything the salesmen tell you.
There's plenty of grind in vanguard unless, ofcourse, you're a kid and have time to play the game for 6+ hours a day, in which case I'm not surprized you think there's no grind to it. But from actualy playing the game, and from what the developers say their vision for the game is, there's plenty of grinding in the game. It starts realy slowing down at about the high teens.
And I dont consider guild wars an MMO, i consider it a single player RPG with a big online game mode.
Could you also explain how I dont know what I'm talking about if I've played since beta 2, and followed the game before that, only quitting very recently?
Or did you just run out of things the developers told you to believe about the game?
Guess you should actualy LOOK at EQ2 once before making your feeble attempts at an argument. The races that are shared looks almost Identical, a lot of the armor designs look very similar, the way armor looks plastic is also similar....vanguard graphics ARE Eq2, just having the benefit of several years more development and technology.
Ohh and I'm SOOO glad you believe everything that the people MAKING the game (who have to hype it at every opportunity) tell you to believe. I'm happy you showed your intelligence by believing everything the salesmen tell you.
There's plenty of grind in vanguard unless, ofcourse, you're a kid and have time to play the game for 6+ hours a day, in which case I'm not surprized you think there's no grind to it. But from actualy playing the game, and from what the developers say their vision for the game is, there's plenty of grinding in the game. It starts realy slowing down at about the high teens.
And I dont consider guild wars an MMO, i consider it a single player RPG with a big online game mode.
Could you also explain how I dont know what I'm talking about if I've played since beta 2, and followed the game before that, only quitting very recently?
Or did you just run out of things the developers told you to believe about the game?
i play eq2. just figured i'd throw that out since your only defense apparently is "no, you don't know what you're talking about." you confuse grind with large levels. just because it takes a long time to level, doesn't mean it's all grind.
yeah i guess vanguard is just ripping the races off of eq2, that originally ripped off d&d, which ripped off tolkien and numerous other fantasy writers dating back to when england owned most of the world. these races have been around forever, the will continue to be around forever. the fact that brad mcquaid is heading this game even makes it less of an eq2 rip-off and more of a "i've been doing this since day one." kind of thing.
at first i thought vanguard sucked. the newbie level almost ruined the game, but after that it does get incredibly good. and as for what the people making the game say, i could care less. i only look at facts that they have. i don't care about their vision, the experience, yada yada yada. i want a fun game.
vanguard delievers on that. quite well.
Sorry, I wasnt going to make up some elaborate and eloquent defense against a kid that screams "OMG, YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU TALKING ABoUT, AND I DO!!"
Way to sugar coat grinding...its just long levels...riiiiiight.
There's also a difference between using the same idea and using models that look almost identical.
Anyway, I'd like to get back to bashing LoTR:O
Sorry, I wasnt going to make up some elaborate and eloquent defense against a kid that screams "OMG, YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU TALKING ABoUT, AND I DO!!"
Way to sugar coat grinding...its just long levels...riiiiiight.
There's also a difference between using the same idea and using models that look almost identical.
Anyway, I'd like to get back to bashing LoTR:O
kid? right. keep judging me, it appears to be what you do. go back to bashing a game you haven't really played yet, and keep pretending you're someone to talk. remind me again, what was the name of the game you made? the one that made you millions of dollars?
Well, one's opinion is one's opinion. You can't make them change it if they don't want to.
I think that people are expecting too much when they say "innovative".
I would say the monster play pvp concept is innovative as I don't know of any game that has done that. Also, the use of "fear" might be a bit innovative as well.
But why do we have to reinvent the wheel? And is it needed.
Being innovative for the sake of being different is just as bad as doing same old same old. I think I'll agree with the idea that placing markers above npc's makes all the non quest npc's less important. But then again, how many times do you want to click on an "eye candy" npc only to hear "have a nice day" and nothing more. For me that would get old quickly.
And as far as creating your own story. Well, I suppose role players would tell you that you can just roleplay your own story.
As far as the game goes, I'm not sure if there are games where you can "create" your own story in any meaningful way. At least in a way that you can't do in what the current LOTRO is shaping up to be.
Perhaps open pvp games. But this is not an open pvp game so you are not going to be getting inter clan intrigue.
I haven't tried this game yet. I am dissapointed in the character creating. Not that I need sliders but I would have wanted more.
I don't mind grind. And I don't have 6 hours per day to play. But I do want something different to do if I choose to do it.
At least in LOTRO there are quests. I don't know if they will be good or not. That quite frankly is opinion. I personall thought that WoW's quests were fun. Not ground breaking but I actually enjoyed myself. And this is from a person who plays Lineage 2, possibly the worst quests in the mmorpg genre. I never take quests because they are so bad. Suddenly I see that another game makes them at least more entertaining and I can do them.
Now, I also think the movies might be a detriment to this game. Sure, you will get a lot of people wanting to try it because of the movies but then people are going to expect that type of setting. It doesn't look like they are going to get that. For many that will be a turn off.
I think I'll wait to pass judgement until I try the game.
As far as the review. I don't get the sense that the reviewer was getting pressure to say things other than their opinion or candy coat things.
I do get that they were being diplomatic. Quite frankly I find it refreshing. I'm tired of people bashing things in an unconstructive way just so they can be edgy. I find it far more professional to say what didn't work. I think the reviewer did a decent job of that.
And though they weren't bothered by a bit of same old same old, that is their opinion. People have to remember that that is what a review is. Opinion. "They" weren't bothered. But they do bring it up to give the general public and sense of what might be an issue.
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Your logic has collapsed completely...I have to make a successful game to judge one now? Well holy crap, I guess that puts 100% of the game reviewers out there out of work!
And you're getting judged because you decided to do the same to me in your first post...awww, and you dont like it, do you?
Turbine have given themselves a headstart by using LOTR in their game title. If I went ahead and started the game, then I know it will be enjoyable. What I really want is for Turbine to recreate things that I read in the book 'The Hobbit'. I don't think it is possible to capture Tolkein's world in a game of any sort. I read the LOTR trilogy simply because 'The Hobbit' was a good book, but in no way did it please me as much to read the trilogy as it did to read the prequel. I have the impression that Turbine is making LOTR into an mmo because it already fits into the categories of 'fantasy', 'popular', 'epic' and 'proven to be scalable to other media'!
The conflict I have in games like this is more about the fact that I cannot decide if I am supposed to be immersing myself in another world. That is something that games cannot do for me unless they are fast paced and exciting, just like a good book.
The review helps me see what this game will be like, but I cannot say that I am surprised at the content, since I have read so many reviews already.
p.s. thanks to mmorpg.com for accelerating games of the present into the future!
The article makes it sound as though there may yet be hope for this MMO!
Luckily you dont seem like a person who has anything sensible to say, you wont be missed.
If you all liked what you read in that article, I'd highly recommend signing up for the Beta if you haven't already. We're going to be inviting a bunch of people over the coming weeks and months and it's a great opportunity to play the game and form your own opinions.
http://www.lotro.com/betasignup
-Jonathan "Calandryll" Hanna
Director of Community Relations
http://www.lotro.com/betasignup
I guess the people are right when they Turbine delivers on their promises, and quote them on not promising anything but graphics>gameplay
Of all that is written, I love only what a person has written with his own blood. -Nietzsche
*chuckles* Tough crowd.
Of course. Everyone is invited to sign up! Feel free to click the link and sign up right now if you want.
-Jonathan "Calandryll" Hanna
Director of Community Relations
http://www.lotro.com/betasignup
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Nice article. I hope Turbine was able to read this. There are so many things about this game that can be great but there seem to be some things that are bringing it down. The lack of character customizing is truly questionable. Why wouldn't Turbine want you to customize your character with sliding bars? I really hope Turbine makes some big changes in the BETA period.
-Jonathan "Calandryll" Hanna
Director of Community Relations
http://www.lotro.com/betasignup