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Gorukha
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Cheats and Liars OR Whistleblowers ? Discuss....
I lean towards whistleblowers, they are the unsung heroes of the mmorpg world. When a game is going the wrong direction who cuts down on all the hype ? Yup, the whistleblowers . Who brings buggy products which companies want to pass off as release quality out in the open ? Yup, its them. Who kills fanbois with a single word ? You guessed it.
I lean towards whistleblowers, they are the unsung heroes of the mmorpg world. When a game is going the wrong direction who cuts down on all the hype ? Yup, the whistleblowers . Who brings buggy products which companies want to pass off as release quality out in the open ? Yup, its them. Who kills fanbois with a single word ? You guessed it.
It's better be hated for who you are, than loved for who you aren't.
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Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Well I have shifted positions on this one. Being forced to see it from another perspective caused my shift, sit back and yawn as I explain.
I used to see NDA breaking as whistle blowing and I have been known in the past to do a little
. If I felt a game was "significantly different" from the advertised design, I felt some sort of weird duty to let everyone know about it. At the same time though I have always been mindfull of the fact that Betas are just that... and making judgments about a game in Beta is at best, naieve and at worst stupid. Thats why I said "significantly"
However when I got on staff here and read the rules from MMORPG.com's point of view I saw another side. Not only another side, but I could really appreciate what is at stake from the perspective of being part of the group with something to lose (in a small but recognisable way).
You see the way to view this, as I see it now, is that in order to enter a Beta test under an NDA, you have to agree to the NDA. The NDA after all is the topic in discussion here not the games. Once you agree to the NDA it really becomes a question of how much you value your own signature doesnt it ? If your happy to sign things then renegg(sp) on the agreement then, I think it says more about you than the other party to the contract.
So I guess you have to trust that if the game "sux" it will still suck whether you compromise your personal integrity or not. Like I said, I used to be a "crusader" now I part of the "establishment", you can make of that what you like.
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uhh yeah they are...People who are participating in beta tests sign somethign called an NDA(Non disclosure agreement) which says that they are not allowed to divulge any information about the game without the expressed consent of the company making the game...they are signing a contract, and a breach of that contract, is breaking the law.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
uhh yeah they are...People who are participating in beta tests sign somethign called an NDA(Non disclosure agreement) which says that they are not allowed to divulge any information about the game without the expressed consent of the company making the game...they are signing a contract, and a breach of that contract, is breaking the law.
Nope, NDA wont hold in court because the other party (tester) doesn't get any compensation from it, money or otherwise. You might think that getting to beta test the game IS the compensation, but that is not how the law see it. By law, you're actually used as free labor when beta testing.
EDIT: not trying to encourage anyone to brake NDA's. If you break NDA's, you're still an asshole, nvm what the law says about it.
It's better be hated for who you are, than loved for who you aren't.
I think there is certainly an element of that. However I think its balanced by the pretty certain fact that 99% of people who want to participate in Betas just want to play the game early and for free. That was certainly my main motivator for the first few years.
Later I started to get more of a kick from trying to break things in Betas and then reporting it, which is after all what your supposed to be doing. That led me to being a regular reader and poster of the forums and thats how I ended up here. I was really active on the boards of AO Basher for years and found mmorpg.com from there. As the name of the site sugests AO basher was not favourable to the game or Funcom, at first...... but it matured as the game did.
In any case I can certainly see the point of view of people who feel "obliged" to inform the community of crappy games masqurading as quality titles. I think the best way to do that is to write your review as early and completely as you like, then as soon as the NDA drops, edit it based on your most recent experience and release it immediately. That way you get to have your say, including the experiences you had during the NDA portion of the beta and not breach any agreements in the process.
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"Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
I like whistleblowers.
Public NDA agreements seem a little bit of a confused concept. A publicly released secret? Righto.
I understand why companies use them. But the need for them (during MMO stresstests) is far too weak for me to actually care if anyone breaks them. I don't do beta tests unless paid to. Whenever I am paid to do anything, I take pride in behaving professionally. Anything I do unpaid is volunteer work, and you will take what you are offered on my terms not yours.
I understand NDA but if anyone wants to let out secrets about highly anticipated mmorpgs in closed Beta Im not turning them in :-) In fact if anyone wants to release info about a specific mmorpg, that just gave away 250 Beta keys, then who am I to judge. Whats a few contracts broken between forum friends ;-)
j/k j/k (kind of)
NDAs should not be broken but im glad they are occasionaly....
Well if your talking about TCOS then let me tell you..... we dont have the keys yet so we cant leak any info on it
but im willing to trade some info for LOTRO
J/K