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Mutually Assured Destruction

readyman19readyman19 Member Posts: 4
Mutually Assured Destruction [MAD]

USA/Canada based Guild


What we are looking for - We are currently seeking active, skilled,
talkative members who are focused mainly on PVP and have experience in
top level play from a previous competitive game. Must also have a sense
of humor but able to be serious when needed to be. We are going to be
very selective on our members, so if you have references it's a huge
plus. We will also most likely conduct an interview through ventrilo.
Most of us are from Guild Wars and some are from WoW and other various
MMOs. We all PVP though.



We are going to be Destruction based if you haven't guessed that by the guild name.



Info about us -



Age Requirement - 16+ [ Must be mature ]

Ventrilo - MUST have vent and a working microphone

Members count - 18

Language - English

Website - coming soon along with a forum !

Playtimes - Afternoons/Evenings anywhere from 3PM to 1AM EST on the weekdays and more on the weekends.



Please either PM me an application or visit me on mIRC with the following details



Age

Past game experience

Timezone

Email



You can visit us on mIRC - under irc.gamesurge.net #madestruction



ONLY TAKING APPLICATIONS THROUGH OUR FORUMS - http://www.madestruction.com/forum/



Thank you.


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  • newbinatornewbinator Member Posts: 780
    cool, what server you playing on?
  • VolkmarVolkmar Member UncommonPosts: 2,501
    not to be an ass, but you kinda missed the "guild" forum or what?


    "If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"



  • callmetobycallmetoby Member Posts: 302



    Originally posted by newbinator
    cool, what server you playing on?


    Was that a real question?  I surely hope not.
  • readyman19readyman19 Member Posts: 4
    wow i did not see that!!

    haha thank you



  • EldaElda Member Posts: 343

    Originally posted by readyman19
    wow i did not see that!!

    haha thank you

    rofl need some glasses? :P




  • newbinatornewbinator Member Posts: 780



    Originally posted by callmetoby



    Originally posted by newbinator
    cool, what server you playing on?

    Was that a real question?  I surely hope not.




    Of course it was a real question, the internet is serious biz cuz.
  • EldaElda Member Posts: 343

    Originally posted by newbinator
    Originally posted by callmetoby
    Originally posted by newbinator
    cool, what server you playing on?
    Was that a real question?  I surely hope not.


    Of course it was a real question, the internet is serious biz cuz.
    I hope you're talking about GW or WoW or any other games these guys play, because WAR is not even in beta yet :P


  • razziellerazzielle Member Posts: 162

    Wow, good lord.  If I'm putting in a app for entrance into a guild on a freakin GAME then you guys better pay me by the hour.

     

    What ever happened to "hey can I join your guild?'  "yeah sure"

  • EldaElda Member Posts: 343

    Originally posted by razzielle
    Wow, good lord.  If I'm putting in a app for entrance into a guild on a freakin GAME then you guys better pay me by the hour.   What ever happened to "hey can I join your guild?'  "yeah sure"
    I hope the 'hey can I join your guild?' 'Yeah Sure' method has been lost for good. I hate it.

    If you want an active and serious guild, you don't want uninterested members, the first and most easy test to give them is to let them fill in an app form. If there are persons who don't want to do that, they are not interested and not searching for a serious guild, so you don't care if they don't fill it in. If they do fill it in, they allready show some sign of activity and interest and that's what you are looking for.

    If you are getting a lot of apps then and you don't want to many ppl you can also pick members by what you think is good when they filled out the app.

    And I think you wont find many "hey can I join your guild?'  "yeah sure" guilds this far from launch. I think only serious guilds start recruiting these days allready. If you want a guild who are like that, just wait for launch get ingame, and ask around, there will be more then enough...

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,073



    Originally posted by razzielle

    Wow, good lord.  If I'm putting in a app for entrance into a guild on a freakin GAME then you guys better pay me by the hour.
     
    What ever happened to "hey can I join your guild?'  "yeah sure"




    Actually, having an application process is pretty much a trademark of any major, long term guild no matter what game you are playing.  Some require people to fill out short on-line forms to help the members get a feel for the sort of person they are considering for membership.

    More severe requirements include grouping with the members for some period of time, passing tests on guild lore or completing tasks for the guild.. (like kill 5 members of the opposite faction and post screen shots).  I once was a member of a RP guild that required me to prove that I had mastered their kobold guild language before I could become a full member.  Trial periods of a week to a month are quite common as well.

    In fact, most guiilds that would let you in by just asking probably aren't worth joining....

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  • razziellerazzielle Member Posts: 162



    Originally posted by Elda

    If you want an active and serious guild, you don't want uninterested members, the first and most easy test to give them is to let them fill in an app form. If there are persons who don't want to do that, they are not interested and not searching for a serious guild, so you don't care if they don't fill it in. If they do fill it in, they allready show some sign of activity and interest and that's what you are looking for.





    You mean if you want L33T members a.k.a. no outside life whatsoever.  No room for the weekend warrior or casual player who just likes occasional company.  To me 'serious' and 'guild' put together is just plain silly.  You're playing a game.  The way some people take these games is just awfull.  Especially looking on the VN boards.

    In other regards when my guild transfers to WAR any of you part-timers are more than welcome as long as you agree with the charter of being a family oriented guild.

  • callmetobycallmetoby Member Posts: 302



    Originally posted by newbinator



    Originally posted by callmetoby



    Originally posted by newbinator
    cool, what server you playing on?

    Was that a real question?  I surely hope not.




    Of course it was a real question, the internet is serious biz cuz.

    Ah, okie. In that case I'll answer your question for him;

    "Ask me again in November of next year. By then we should have some idea."

  • VolkmarVolkmar Member UncommonPosts: 2,501



    Originally posted by razzielle



    Originally posted by Elda

    If you want an active and serious guild, you don't want uninterested members, the first and most easy test to give them is to let them fill in an app form. If there are persons who don't want to do that, they are not interested and not searching for a serious guild, so you don't care if they don't fill it in. If they do fill it in, they allready show some sign of activity and interest and that's what you are looking for.




    You mean if you want L33T members a.k.a. no outside life whatsoever.  No room for the weekend warrior or casual player who just likes occasional company.  To me 'serious' and 'guild' put together is just plain silly.  You're playing a game.  The way some people take these games is just awfull.  Especially looking on the VN boards.

    In other regards when my guild transfers to WAR any of you part-timers are more than welcome as long as you agree with the charter of being a family oriented guild.



    to each his own i guess, to me the concept of a "family" guild that is just a "bunch of friends together to have fun" is completelly silly in a mmoRPG.

    I consider joining only guilds that are built IN the game, not OFF the game.

    That being said, there are limits to this and it has nothing to do with limiting "casuals", heck I'm a casual!

    Filling an application or chatting 10 minutes with a guild member does not seems hardcore to me and if somebody does not want to do so, well, then they can find another guild, free world and all that.

    Yes, certain things like learning to speak some weird language and stuff like that is a bit over the top to me, but ,again, to each his own.

    Bottom line? you do not NEED to be a leet guy 24/7 hardcore to just roleplay and have fun in a guild. "fun" being the key word is different from guy to guy.

    "If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"



  • kordrialkordrial Member Posts: 160



    Originally posted by Volkmar
    to each his own i guess, to me the concept of a "family" guild that is just a "bunch of friends together to have fun" is completelly silly in a mmoRPG.
    I consider joining only guilds that are built IN the game, not OFF the game.




    just curious, but could you elaborate? i'm not flaming, it's just that is where alot of my MMO fun  comes from, just messin' around with online or RL buddies that play the game with me... no goal in mind.. just messin' around :)

    and yea, i've been in the hardcore guilds (though i've never learned kobold >_>) and in light guilds, also, family guilds which turn into hardcore guilds... (never a hardcore guild that turned into a family guild.. i wonder if that ever happens...)

  • SwordmanSwordman Member Posts: 57



    Originally posted by razzielle



    Originally posted by Elda

    If you want an active and serious guild, you don't want uninterested members, the first and most easy test to give them is to let them fill in an app form. If there are persons who don't want to do that, they are not interested and not searching for a serious guild, so you don't care if they don't fill it in. If they do fill it in, they allready show some sign of activity and interest and that's what you are looking for.




    You mean if you want L33T members a.k.a. no outside life whatsoever.  No room for the weekend warrior or casual player who just likes occasional company.  To me 'serious' and 'guild' put together is just plain silly.  You're playing a game.  The way some people take these games is just awfull.  Especially looking on the VN boards.

    In other regards when my guild transfers to WAR any of you part-timers are more than welcome as long as you agree with the charter of being a family oriented guild.


    Well, look at it like this: You're putting together a football team. Nothing serious, mostly just for fun. Playing against some other casual teams in a little league you've started. You just walk around on the street and ask people if they want to join your team.

    First match comes up. Half your team has forgotten they even agreed to join your team and/or have other stuff to do. And half the guys that DO show up don't know the rules of football but like to run around the field making airplane noises.

    It's not about thinking your team is going to move up into the world series. It's about getting likeminded individuals that actually want the same thing you want: to play football.

  • callmetobycallmetoby Member Posts: 302



    Originally posted by Swordman

    Well, look at it like this: You're putting together a football team. Nothing serious, mostly just for fun. Playing against some other casual teams in a little league you've started. You just walk around on the street and ask people if they want to join your team.
    First match comes up. Half your team has forgotten they even agreed to join your team and/or have other stuff to do. And half the guys that DO show up don't know the rules of football but like to run around the field making airplane noises.

    It's not about thinking your team is going to move up into the world series. It's about getting likeminded individuals that actually want the same thing you want: to play football.



    I loved that analogy.  Excellent post! image
  • Leonatos65Leonatos65 Member Posts: 166

    Originally posted by Swordman
    Originally posted by razzielle
    Originally posted by Elda

    If you want an active and serious guild, you don't want uninterested members, the first and most easy test to give them is to let them fill in an app form. If there are persons who don't want to do that, they are not interested and not searching for a serious guild, so you don't care if they don't fill it in. If they do fill it in, they allready show some sign of activity and interest and that's what you are looking for.


    You mean if you want L33T members a.k.a. no outside life whatsoever.  No room for the weekend warrior or casual player who just likes occasional company.  To me 'serious' and 'guild' put together is just plain silly.  You're playing a game.  The way some people take these games is just awfull.  Especially looking on the VN boards.

    In other regards when my guild transfers to WAR any of you part-timers are more than welcome as long as you agree with the charter of being a family oriented guild.


    Well, look at it like this: You're putting together a football team. Nothing serious, mostly just for fun. Playing against some other casual teams in a little league you've started. You just walk around on the street and ask people if they want to join your team.

    First match comes up. Half your team has forgotten they even agreed to join your team and/or have other stuff to do. And half the guys that DO show up don't know the rules of football but like to run around the field making airplane noises.

    It's not about thinking your team is going to move up into the world series. It's about getting likeminded individuals that actually want the same thing you want: to play football.


    So wait, WAR is going to have football? BLOODSPORT?!?

    Applications are a good thing, they prevent those who don't care from joining because taking that little bit of extra effort really shows you have the initiative needed to step up and show what your made of. I was against them at first thinking the exact same thing, "Application? You gotta be shitting me! image" But then I realized that having annoying 13 year olds or the occasional completely random 23 year old joining your guild telling you their life story just so they don't commit mental suicide through the deletion of their character (mental now, not actualy gameplay image). Its a scary world out there.

    Also, Judging from recent posts, I do believe Toby needs a hug.

    Warhammer MoC is great and catch me online (like everyday) at my gamename of Sutenvulf65.

    Thanks for your time guys!
  • rocktocklyrocktockly Member UncommonPosts: 15

    Speak of Mutually Assured Destruction,

    Nice story, tell it to readers digest.

     

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  • razziellerazzielle Member Posts: 162

    By family oriented I'm not saying saying that you only play with family or friends.  Hell I don't personally know 99% of the people in my whole alliance.  What I am saying though is each person finds they're spot.  Some of us lead raids to help others get the gear they need, some of us specialize in certain classes and lead stealth or non stealth rvr.  Every Friday night we have the alliance rvr night.  Now granted not everyone can join that night and the mix up of teams instead of utulizing the same team means we don't do as well against the concentrated 8-mans who play every night.  But our goal is to have fun, plain and simple.

    As for getting the people stated like the annoying 13 year old or the psychotic 23 year old, first they would have to read and agree to the charter that's been placed.  Of course many will most likely just glance and say yeah yeah I agree then still try to do their own thing but this is where the guild ranking system comes in.  Keep em on a trial basis with limited benefits and see how they handle stuff.  Most likely in those 2 scenerios of people they generally quit on they're own after a week or 2 if they don't have access to clean out the vaults or speak on alliance chat.

    I've personally have been in multiple levels of guilds.  One I had to register on the website to achieve my first rank.  I personally love that idea.  This says the person wants to participate.  You also go up ranks for joining in guild/alliance outings.  Or leading them.  On the same note if they find out your doing a particular craft then they will fund you to get to the top since you will most likely be making items for guildies for free.

    My 2nd guild (different realm) has a 65 year old grandfather of 2.  This guy doesn't get much time to play with babysitting his grandchildren but he tries his damnest to join in anything and try to understand whats going on and we take time out of our schedule to help him.  We even built a rvr suit for the guy.  Yeah he tends to slow things down but it's cool, cause we go off the concept of having fun.  We also have a l33t crew of 8-10 that rvr each night.  So not only does 1/2 the guild run raids and pve to fund the guild but the other 1/2 puts us on the rankings each week.

    Only once did I find a guild that put me through a interview and the whole time I was thinking what the hell am I getting into.  They finally let me in on a 2 week trial and I found out through someone else was that they actually sent a stealther to 'watch' my actions.  To me that was pretty hardcore.  I was only in there for about a week.

    I just now help create another new guild on classic alb.  We'll see how that one turns out.

  • VegettaVegetta Member Posts: 438

    Having an application and a probationary period helps keep jerks out of the guild. For the boys I started out as anyone could join but I had an application - several people joined and then later dissappeared.

    I kind of expected this being that launch is still so far away. But I have managed to get a lot of really great members. Now we have a probationary period - if people participate in our forums and are not jerks they get to join... This is working very well for us and I couldnt be happier with everyone who has been made a full member..

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  • logangregorlogangregor Member Posts: 1,524

    AIRPLANE NOISES FTW

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  • logangregorlogangregor Member Posts: 1,524

    but seriously....


    Yeah good guilds usually want apps. Not all guilds that require applications are any good though.


    Personally I think small active guilds, 25 active players, make for the best guilds.


    WoW's Raiding guilds = bad.

    DAOC's 15 man RvR guilds=incredible.

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  • Shaman64Shaman64 Member Posts: 399

    Man, can't believe you posted in both forums, maybe I should do that?If your new to a community  try not to annoy them.The same rules apply for everyone.

    Applications , hmmm, The hand takes applications,but its for roleplaying, its not mandatory. I wouldn't stress to much on seriousness before a game is launched. You best bet is to recruit anyone who is inerested, and just get a sold base before the game starts, once your base is complete you can start building skywards. But I see that you are from another game and asssume you already have a foundation.

     

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  • callmetobycallmetoby Member Posts: 302



    Originally posted by Leonatos65


    Also, Judging from recent posts, I do believe Toby needs a hug.



    lol...what?  I'm lost. image
  • logangregorlogangregor Member Posts: 1,524

    hes a dwarf


    give him a pint

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