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Star Wars Galaxies: Rogue_5 Comlink

StraddenStradden Managing EditorMember CommonPosts: 6,696

Sony Online Entertainment's Star Wars Galaxies has released a Rogue_5 Comlink containing info on the Spy and Medic and more!

 

It's time once again for another Rogue_5 Comlink!

Get the latest information on Spy and Medic Expertise and then go onto Test Center to experience them first-hand as part of the new Chapter 4 content! Chapter 4 update notes can be found here, so what are you waiting for? Check out all of this great new material. We look forward to hearing your feedback!

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Jon Wood
Managing Editor
MMORPG.com

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  • mindspatmindspat Member Posts: 1,367

    John Smedley, President, Sony Online Entertainment, promised the entire gaming community that the drasticaly striped down version of Star Wars Galaxies known as the "New Game Enhancements", which is not well recieved, would be "complete" and "polished" in 6 months.  Far from the truth.

    It's been 12 months and the character classes are still broken and incomplete.

    The game is ridled with bugs which affect game play worse then anything encountered during the original experiance of Star Wars Galaxies.

     

    This game is a disaster for the Star Wars theme committed by Sony Online Entertainment and Lucas Arts.

    Avoid this game and all of SOE's products.  The competition is availble to provide a quality gaming experiance without risking being robed through premeditated consumer fraud.

    SOE exists to cheat and lie to you.

  • scaramooshscaramoosh Member Posts: 3,424

    SWG sucks.

    Pre cu FTW

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  • Bob_BlawblawBob_Blawblaw Member Posts: 1,278

    Gotta echo that.

    Buyer beware. Stay away.

  • MarkuMarku Member Posts: 452
    I agree with the other posts here.


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  • CrezaxCrezax Member UncommonPosts: 80
    Atleast they didn't get inspired by WoW ^_^

    [center][color=darkorange][b}Wow! Much gold. So amaze![/b][/color][/center]

  • RainStarRainStar Member Posts: 638
    The new expertise systems are great! The RFC In Concept discussions have many people excited about the ideas being put into the game.
  • BreaghaBreagha Member Posts: 131

    Originally posted by Indalamar
    Atleast they didn't get inspired by WoW ^_^

    Heh.... everything went wrong because they tried to streamline the game into a sci-fi version of WoW :P

    If they'd been more concerned with the people actually playing, and done something about all the (at the time already broken) promises they kept throwing out there, they'd never have found themselves in the situation that arose folllowing the NGE *shrugs*

    "So I contend that the player stories will always be more powerful than the scripted stories that we try to tell the players."

    - Will Wright

  • cepollycepolly Member Posts: 15

     




    Originally posted by RainStar
    The new expertise systems are great! The RFC In Concept discussions have many people excited about the ideas being put into the game.


    you are kidding right?

    this game sux.

  • FivoFivo Member Posts: 17



    Originally posted by RainStar
    The new expertise systems are great! The RFC In Concept discussions have many people excited about the ideas being put into the game.



    Yeah, I'm sure that will make up for deleting a 400+ member guild and two years of accomplishments flushed down the drain.  Not to mention all the friendships of the game now gone, too.

    Never trust SWG or SOE again.  Ever.

  • BreaghaBreagha Member Posts: 131
    The game sucks compared to what it was pre-NGE. But the majority of the people playing now, never experienced the pre-NGE, much less the pre-CU.

    All they see are the 'advancement' of the promised new system. So... compared to what it was post-NGE, the game is getting better, yes. It has to, considering how ruined it was by bugs and screwed-up gameplay. There's really only one way to go after you hit rock bottom .P

    I don't see them ever clawing their way back to the top, though. They messed up the game past recognition, and the publicity they got and still get is everything but flattering. So even with the influx of new players they have with the series of trials they sent out, I doubt they'll ever get to the level they had. *shrugs*

    As for the expertise system, they're implementing, it's just their continued attempt to ride the WoW wave they initiated with the NGE. I'd still take the Professions system over this expertise system anyday. The customization and the variaty in character building was in the thousands.

    *sighs* I miss SWG.



    "So I contend that the player stories will always be more powerful than the scripted stories that we try to tell the players."

    - Will Wright

  • severiusseverius Member UncommonPosts: 1,516



    Originally posted by Bree'ah



    Originally posted by Indalamar
    Atleast they didn't get inspired by WoW ^_^

    Heh.... everything went wrong because they tried to streamline the game into a sci-fi version of WoW :P

    If they'd been more concerned with the people actually playing, and done something about all the (at the time already broken) promises they kept throwing out there, they'd never have found themselves in the situation that arose folllowing the NGE *shrugs*


    Well the sci-fi version of wow was very true of the CU, SWg would have best been served had they not scrapped the combat revamp they had worked on for over a year in order to chase after wow's over simplicity.

    The NGE on the other hand was a complete joke.  They are trying to improve the game but the problem is they still ahvent addressed bugs from launch that still permeate the system.

  • hactarhactar Member Posts: 14
    The NGE broke the game but the last publishes have been real good. The game is fun and one of the best mmorpgs out there again, but it will take a while before word spreads, the nge broke a lot of peoples hearts.
  • TrentmareTrentmare Member Posts: 9

    The original SWG had such huge potential, I loved it.

    They could never overcome their database issues, or squash some of the persistent bugs, which slowed what would have been continued refinement and enhancement, and if they had stuck to it, the most complete online world to date with housing, placeable items, and when the crafting systems were working, they were awesome. Hunting was ok, but yes, it was horribly lacking in rewarding quests or quest areas. PvP combat was unbalanced.. but was definitely different and could have been refined over time. The social arena was fantastic, with dancing and music, I wasted a large part of my life in cantinas.. lol

    Then they annouced the forked to hell and back path to being Jedi, just master every freaking profession and the game just went to hell faster than anything I've ever seen. Just a horribly stupid idea that ruined any chance for redemption. The end of community, purpose, and much more, it just all collapsed.

    I guess I can't blame the new team for scrapping everything and starting over, but I will never play it again, no matter what they do. Guess what I was? A Teras Kasi, Creature Handler.. lol

    I do miss the original 'vision' I suppose, since it was never finished.. I miss it a lot, an awful lot. image

     

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261
    Medic expertise is great :)  If you've been a Medic and haven't tried it, defiently get on TC and give it a go :)

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  • SarvanSarvan Member Posts: 35
    Playing SWG again and loving it. Expertise is great, the game's balanced, graphics have been improved, GCW has a meaning!, and it's far better than the linear EQ2 and WoW. UH?? You can travel wherever you want in those games! - you might say. Yeah, but the level difficulty forces the player to move in a certain line to gain levels. Do this instance a couple of ten times before you're high enough level to move onto the next one... Weee.
  • YodaGreenYodaGreen Member UncommonPosts: 77
    I have yet to see as good comunity as SWG had before cu and what makes me even more glad is that I had sense and quited before SOE killed it with CU and NGE. Now everytime Blizzard comes with some news about wow SOE follows up soon after with somethign of ther own sad. 


  • BeeryBeery Member Posts: 184



    Originally posted by mindspat

    Avoid this game and all of SOE's products.  The competition is availble to provide a quality gaming experiance...



    Where?  Which other game provides the amount of non-combat entertainer-focused content?  I'm well aware that, in general, SOE continues to screw its customers with shoddy development practices, but I still know of no other game which even attempts to bring entertainer content to customers.  SWG is the only MMO which allows me to play actual user-created compositions.  If any other game comes along which permits the level of musical content that SWG provides I'll be among the first to jump ship, but until then SWG is the only game in town for those of us who desire a musical playstyle.
  • RipperLordRipperLord Member Posts: 58



    Originally posted by Fivo



    Originally posted by RainStar
    The new expertise systems are great! The RFC In Concept discussions have many people excited about the ideas being put into the game.


    Yeah, I'm sure that will make up for deleting a 400+ member guild and two years of accomplishments flushed down the drain.  Not to mention all the friendships of the game now gone, too.

    Never trust SWG or SOE again.  Ever.



    I am not against or with you guys, and I understand that some of one are pissed because some have lost allot of their progress in SWG. I have noticed that pretty much only vets of SWG's have been complaining about the NGE. I have played the trial (one where I cant get off the station) and yet I still loved it. I reckon its purely up to your taste, I love Star Wars and their games. The NGE and CU is simply to make it seem more connected to the movies then just a standalone game. Ok it is kinda annoying seeing hundreds of Jedi running around but what game doesnt have a flaw. For example in World of Warcraft, 40% of the horde on almost all servers (realms) have Shaman characters and about the same figure of 40% for Alliance has Paladin characters. Therefore every game has some kind of down side, and maybe if more of us played SWG they (development team) would focus more on SWG. Some like the NGE and CU and some dont its all up to your taste, but frankly I dont think they are changing it back. I also have a good feeling about this expertise idea, its like bringing some Pre-CU to NGE. Somewhat making the game to fit both sides. You can imagine what kind of complaints SOE received to force them to make the NGE. So its actually the community's problem not SOE's, frankly guys those who are playing SWG should be the ones having the say. Also post WHY dont you like the NGE and CU because thats also a major problem (not explaining yourself), be more specific. How is SOE gonna be able to fix this 'problem' if some players are saying 'Oh, I have a problem with NGE'. SOE says 'What is the problem' public replies 'Well I got a problem with it but I cant tell you what it is, and if you dont fix it I am leaving'. Guys cmon be more realistic, there is only a limited amount of things a gaming development team can do. Got problems and good reasons for them then post it on their official site or forums. There are always people that are fully against a game, and dont get me wrong there are tonnes for WoW also... still dont believe me well check this out http://www.wowdetox.com/ (not the same reason but some people still hate it because it "ruined" their lives (its a game not your life, -_- so only you can ruin a game and/or your life). And yes, give it some more time they are release pretty good ideas (e.g. Expertise, Holopets, New Events etc).

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  • BeeryBeery Member Posts: 184
    I am not one of those who is enamoured of the pre-CU game, but I must say that your post is merely opinion.  It doesn't have any reason in it.  Anyone can say that they prefer the game a certain way, but that doesn't mean that they're right.  I'd like to hear some reasoned arguments for the game as it has developed, and not merely reams of sycophantic posts saying that "I like the game so you should too".  Basically your post amounts to little more than a fan's statement of faith in the game as it is.  There are serious arguments to be made on both sides, and I'd like to see some of them here for a change.
  • RipperLordRipperLord Member Posts: 58
    It wasnt an opinion, I was merely stating that SOE is trying to make the game as good as they possibly can. Again they have to impress the customers, but how are they suppose to do that when everyone is jumping to conclusions. I say wait and see what they have for store for us, thats my advice. They are slowly coming up with ideas, if you cant be patient...well SWG isnt your game. No point arguing about how they should of left it when there are others saying that NGE was needed and viceversa. It has been done, enjoy the game as it is and what is it going to be later on or proceed to WoW or Everquest or Guild Wars or Neverwinter Nights. This is not an opinion, also remember time and work is needed to make a game or inprove it. Complaining on what has happened and always wanting to change it, will not help.

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  • BeeryBeery Member Posts: 184

    I think you're getting confused.  I like the new SWG - I'm not against it at all.  But your post was basically sycophancy masquerading as an argument.  Why should others be convinced merely by your assertions that you like the game as it is?  Your post made no argument.  All it did was state your preference and demand that folks who liked pre-CU make their arguments.  Why should anyone care what you prefer if you don't back your opinion up with a reason for thinking that way?  Why should the pre-CU fans respond to your demands and make their arguments if you aren't even willing to do the same yourself?  I mean the closest you came to making a rational argument was when you said that SWG was no worse than any other game in that every game has flaws.  How is that convincing?  I mean you state it as if it's a positive attribute.

    I'm just getting a bit tired of people seeking to defend a product with emptyheaded assertions of devotion (or to bash a product with emptyheaded assertions of dislike).  Who cares what you or I, or anyone else likes?  What you and I like doesn't matter to anyone else.  It's not a popularity contest where your opinion carries weight if people think you're a nice guy.  A discussion forum doesn't need blind fanboyism.  You're just spouting hot air and taking up space that could be better used with a real argument.

    I mean it's not like the new system is hard to defend - it's fairly bug-free (which places it above pre-CU already) and it's a simpler concept that's (unlike the NGE) actually fun to play.  But you're not making any argument like that.  Effectively your argument is: "I like it so I wish you folks would stop whining about it".  No one in history (unless he was incredibly stupid) was ever convinced by such nonsense.  I mean posts like yours do more harm to our cause, because they make us all look like empty-headed dufuses.  I mean our opponents in this matter come to these forums and find reams of vacuous nonsense without an actual argument in sight.  It's no wonder they treat our views with scorn when so few of us are actually willing to engage our brains in defence of the new game system.

    Enough nonsense on both sides.  Will someone please make a valid argument before they launch into a mindless rant?  There's no point in a forum if all one finds in it are people saying "Is too!" and "Is not!"  I mean it seems to me that 90% of the people here wouldn't know a reasoned argument if it bit them on the bum, and the level of discourse is lower than what I hear in my 3 year-old's nursery school.  Anyone would think that the MMORPG in 'MMORPG Forums' stood for 'Many Morons Online Ranting about Playing Games'.

  • RipperLordRipperLord Member Posts: 58



    Originally posted by Beery

    I think you're getting confused.  I like the new SWG - I'm not against it at all.  But your post was basically sycophancy masquerading as an argument.  Why should others be convinced merely by your assertions that you like the game as it is?  Your post made no argument.  All it did was state your preference and demand that folks who liked pre-CU make their arguments.  Why should anyone care what you prefer if you don't back your opinion up with a reason for thinking that way?  Why should the pre-CU fans respond to your demands and make their arguments if you aren't even willing to do the same yourself?  I mean the closest you came to making a rational argument was when you said that SWG was no worse than any other game in that every game has flaws.  How is that convincing?  I mean you state it as if it's a positive attribute.
    I'm just getting a bit tired of people seeking to defend a product with emptyheaded assertions of devotion (or to bash a product with emptyheaded assertions of dislike).  Who cares what you or I, or anyone else likes?  What you and I like doesn't matter to anyone else.  It's not a popularity contest where your opinion carries weight if people think you're a nice guy.  A discussion forum doesn't need blind fanboyism.  You're just spouting hot air and taking up space that could be better used with a real argument.
    I mean it's not like the new system is hard to defend - it's fairly bug-free (which places it above pre-CU already) and it's a simpler concept that's (unlike the NGE) actually fun to play.  But you're not making any argument like that.  Effectively your argument is: "I like it so I wish you folks would stop whining about it".  No one in history (unless he was incredibly stupid) was ever convinced by such nonsense.  I mean posts like yours do more harm to our cause, because they make us all look like empty-headed dufuses.  I mean our opponents in this matter come to these forums and find reams of vacuous nonsense without an actual argument in sight.  It's no wonder they treat our views with scorn when so few of us are actually willing to engage our brains in defence of the new game system.
    Enough nonsense on both sides.  Will someone please make a valid argument before they launch into a mindless rant?  There's no point in a forum if all one finds in it are people saying "Is too!" and "Is not!"  I mean it seems to me that 90% of the people here wouldn't know a reasoned argument if it bit them on the bum, and the level of discourse is lower than what I hear in my 3 year-old's nursery school.  Anyone would think that the MMORPG in 'MMORPG Forums' stood for 'Many Morons Online Ranting about Playing Games'.



    I recommend that you read the whole story before you post anything. This wasnt an agrument between anyone, also I said what game doesnt have a flaw and I used WoW for a flaw example. I was saying that there is no turning back (AND NOT THAT I SAID 'I like it so I wish you folks would stop whining about it!') and that there must of been complaints to SOE about most of the SWG community wanting a change (why would they change it if it was going fine). Also I added that I dont see anything wrong with it and that they need more time to add new things in, in addition to be fair after that post I added a thread for people to add in why do they like or dislike the NGE and CU change. So please dont lecture me on how to back up my reasons, because sometimes it helps to read all the threads on this topic.

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  • ReklawReklaw Member UncommonPosts: 6,495

    I think that SWG was ruined not only by its Devs but mostly by them listening to their costumers,(yes i too found that hard to believe devs listening to the crowed but have withnessed it meself) cause at the time pre-cu many and i mean many people complained about the way Jedi worked cause most found the path far to hard to travel and become a Jedi,( i have to agree that it was very hard but then again it gave a sence of realism cause Jedi should have been the ultimate class to get and should have been kept rare) SWG started to change towards what the majority of wanna be gamers was asking for on hundreds of forums, most of them atleast in opinion was all shout outs from children spamming the forums with stuff they disliked in SWG, Unfortunaly the real gamers could have dealt with SWG if they targetted to fix issues instead of keeping to creat isseus, i have more then 1 year of pre-CU experiance and 6 day trail experiance last juni of this year and from what i played in the trail they really changed SWG in a regular online game in a Star Wars setting, the whole idea of SWG being the world of Star Wars faded and become ..............just a online game.

    Once SWG was unique and no other MMO did even come close to the possibility's that was possible in SWG and this goes for combat oriented players aswell as non-combaT players.Crafting was the most complete feel of being a crafter i ever have experianced in a MMO game (yeah lots of bugs in crafting i have to admit, but when it worked it was very very cool( same way i felt when discovering or searching for that nice spot to place my mine for the best of resoures( i remember spending day's and day's with maybe 10% combat and 90% looking for those resourses that could make me wonderfull items.I truly find it sad to see a game wich such a rich history that they kinda stripped everything that made SWG a play World into just that regular online Star Wars wanna be jedi kind of game :(. I've been in several guilds in SWG all where 25year old persons and up and all those guilds left just before CU or quitted in the CU (and i'm not talking about a 5 man large guild but large guilds who had made very nice a great city's across the SWG galaxie. I remember the time when you felt unlucky when missing a flight transport and had to wait several minutes to catch the next flight, it might felt bad at the time but it also gave a clear sence of reality ( and while waitng having some nice chats with other persons that missed the flight or using emoticons to show your feelings about missing the flight(/stomp,/Mad/Agree), from what i have read about the new SWG that even dropped that and now everyone can take flight from where ever??

    Remember this is merely my own personal opninion

     

     

  • RipperLordRipperLord Member Posts: 58



    Originally posted by Reklaw

    I think that SWG was ruined not only by its Devs but mostly by them listening to their costumers,(yes i too found that hard to believe devs listening to the crowed but have withnessed it meself) cause at the time pre-cu many and i mean many people complained about the way Jedi worked cause most found the path far to hard to travel and become a Jedi,( i have to agree that it was very hard but then again it gave a sence of realism cause Jedi should have been the ultimate class to get and should have been kept rare) SWG started to change towards what the majority of wanna be gamers was asking for on hundreds of forums, most of them atleast in opinion was all shout outs from children spamming the forums with stuff they disliked in SWG, Unfortunaly the real gamers could have dealt with SWG if they targetted to fix issues instead of keeping to creat isseus, i have more then 1 year of pre-CU experiance and 6 day trail experiance last juni of this year and from what i played in the trail they really changed SWG in a regular online game in a Star Wars setting, the whole idea of SWG being the world of Star Wars faded and become ..............just a online game.
    Once SWG was unique and no other MMO did even come close to the possibility's that was possible in SWG and this goes for combat oriented players aswell as non-combaT players.Crafting was the most complete feel of being a crafter i ever have experianced in a MMO game (yeah lots of bugs in crafting i have to admit, but when it worked it was very very cool( same way i felt when discovering or searching for that nice spot to place my mine for the best of resoures( i remember spending day's and day's with maybe 10% combat and 90% looking for those resourses that could make me wonderfull items.I truly find it sad to see a game wich such a rich history that they kinda stripped everything that made SWG a play World into just that regular online Star Wars wanna be jedi kind of game :(. I've been in several guilds in SWG all where 25year old persons and up and all those guilds left just before CU or quitted in the CU (and i'm not talking about a 5 man large guild but large guilds who had made very nice a great city's across the SWG galaxie. I remember the time when you felt unlucky when missing a flight transport and had to wait several minutes to catch the next flight, it might felt bad at the time but it also gave a clear sence of reality ( and while waitng having some nice chats with other persons that missed the flight or using emoticons to show your feelings about missing the flight(/stomp,/Mad/Agree), from what i have read about the new SWG that even dropped that and now everyone can take flight from where ever??
    Remember this is merely my own personal opninion
     
     



    You really speak your mind and thats what I like. I havent played Pre-CU so I wouldnt know how that felt but I reckon that we should put in a request to bring back some of that magic to people that miss it (not change the whole game, but bring some realism of Star Wars back to the game). What do you say? Bring some goodies that were lost back? Well once I start playing SWG, Ill see if I can get allot of people to agree with me in bringing back some Pre-CU features.

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  • JK_jeanJK_jean Member Posts: 11

    This type of game is very good, 'cause they can to create some things of isn't really. Por exemple: ray shield, lightsabers, ray weaponts, thunder spear, and others... It attract the people, tha'ts why them pay to play this game.

    Games of star wars is sellings not because they are goods, but because the films are goods. I agree, case the film don't exist, none people played it. But how the film exist, many players go to play it, and for play it, they have to pay.

    But the game's very good, I knew it because I played it...               

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