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Triple Threat to Little Ol' Me
Red1086
Member Posts: 9
I have been looking for a decent MMO to tide me over, but nothing hits the spot. I've tried so many different trials, I might just go crazy. The thing is, none of the MMOs I've tried keep me interested.
....But....
Then I read about three new games. Warhammer Online, Age of Conan, and Vanguard. All three of these seem amazing. I love that Warhammer is so PvP based and is in a setting I am familiar with. Age of Conan is cool because it is about one of my childhood heroes. Vanguard is a definate interest since it kicks litte kids in the balls(hardcore). I like the sound of all of these, I just don't know which to choose.
I have researched each of the games a little, but that is all just hard facts and technical mumbo-jumbo. I want to know what game you are going to play and why. Maybe even make a friend to play one of the three with once I make up my mind. In the mean time, I figured I would see what you all think.
Danka and take care,
-JTR-
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Well both AoC and WAR I intend on playing..
WAR is kinda a certainty as I'm a huge Warhammer fan, however the problem being with it, like many other titles, has been dubbed the next WoW with PvP, witch would put anyone who didn't like WoW in the first place off the game plus it'll more then likely have the current WoW player base flooding towards it (witch I really hope Mythic are more ready for then Blizzard was, so a lot less time with server issues..), witch in turn can lead to the 'know it all but don't' finding every little error in the lore of the game just to be 'known' in the game.. Basically the game looks soild it's the community witch looks like it's the part that will make or break it..
AoC is looking to also be a solid game, with it's mature rating it probly won't have as huge of a playerbase than most games (most could say thats a good thing as there woul be less tards in game, but from my experence the worst ones are the older players at times). The non-targeting system is imo 'better' (even so being a prefered mage, lock-on button bashing spells is boring) the poposed console twin that this system allows could be a stumbling block, as I said in other topics consoles aren't as good as PCs at times, so having one server cross-platform could have problems plus even if this wasn't the case the dev time could end up splitting focus on either platform with different problems arising and balencing issues, another thing that should be watched..
Bring on the WARRRRGGHH!
Age of Conan for me
No autoattack, with directional melee combat. Guild versus Guild PvP sieges. seperated skill and XP trees for PvE and PvP. realistic graphic design. extremely high levels of character customization. Crafted gear is the best around, none of the bullshit about having to raid all the time to have a chance. A mature setting, with not a single bloody elf or orc in sight.
It will also have a copy of the ARK program from AO, which still is by far the #1 ingame customer service to be had anywhere.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
Yeah AoC for me here too. No autoattack here *thank god, if i had to double click on an enemy..go to make a sandwich, come back...repeat ONE MORE TIME, im going to kill someone. or maybe a sheep*
The combat is a huge point for me, and is very different than anything out there now. Especially when you bring in directional combat. PvP and that first 20 levels offline has me down good. Im getting this game.
Then WAR would be next in line.
No more raiding and EQ2 style gameplay for me *looks at vanguard*
Age of Conan here as well.
Not at all interested in Warhammer for the reasons mentioned by Kremlik, I hate WoW and the majority of its infantile community with a passion. I have no desire to play a game that I think will be populated with the same 'out-for-self' leetspeaking kids.
Vanguard interests me a little, although I am a bit wary of SOE's involvement, been burned by those tossers too many times. Another thing that puts me off it is that I am worried that it will be another raid-centric game, I think that large scale raiding is the single most annoying thing ever introduced into the MMORPG genre. What I do like about it is the size of the game world, lack of instancing and it sounds like it will have a good crafting system to it.
Another 2007 release, LOTR is a game that I have looked into quite a bit too. The main thing that puts me off this is the lack of content and also the lack of a real PvP system.
As for AoC, I am really looking forward to this game. IMO it is by far the most innovative of the upcoming releases. I like the idea of real-time combat, formation combat, sieges and PvP sieges, as well as the darker Low-Fantasy setting. If Funcom can deliver on its proposals for this game, it will be great and I really hope that they do.
The one thing that annoys me about the upcoming releases is that there are none that are Sci-Fi based. I prefer a Sci-Fi setting to a Fantasy one, but unfortunately I suppose that I am in the minority on that point. Not counting STO and SG:W here as they are not going to be out for quite some time. Oh well, not to worry. At least AoC is not the usual High-Fantasy elves and gnomes crap, lol.
Anyway, just my 2 pence on the subject.
MMORPG History:
Playing - EVE Online.
Played (Retired) - AO, SWG, MxO, WoW, RFO, SoR, CoX, EQ2, GW, L2, Vanguard, LotRO, AoC, TCoS, Aion.
Favourite MMO - Pre-CU SWG, 3 Years, 4 Accounts, 2 Pre-CU Jedi (1 Pre-9).
Awaiting - Star Wars: The Old Republic, The Secret World, Earthrise.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
Will you choose Warhammer Online and move to the age of warfare where mighty battles be taking place and you conquering your opponects, It's you being human from the Empire, or You are the Heretic of the Chaos! The choice is yours to whom you will conquer
Age of Conan is your childhood heros, will you like to reborn your favorite Childhood Hero, your great memory of your past, and reconquer the world that you want to live in. Reborn your memory, your mind, and your past when you play this game, (if you got a strong connection to your past).
Vanguard, I have no intention on joining that game yet, I have not heard much things about how great it is, and how good it is as well. I been hearing most of the popular games and news of ongoing game like World of Warcraft, Warhammer Online, Everquest 2, Eve Online, Second Life, and other games out there that are popular, I have heard of no good news from Vanguard, So I Shall past that game.
You forgot "God's and Heroes" and " none of the above", but oh well.
I definitely will be trying Warhammer, but it looks like thats about a year away. If you are looking for a game to, as you say, "tide you over" this one isn't it
Vangard I am interested in, but am a little concerned right now with the new video's and information trickling out. That said I hope I get to test it in open beta.
Age of Conan everyone seems to be hyping. People are claiming its "Mature" rating and seemingly high system specs will keep the WoW kiddies away. I totally disagree with that opinion and fear that AoC will be the "thurt33n yeer old Ul3er l33t" game of 2007. I also "KNOW" thirteen year olds...I teach about 120 of them each day. This is the game they will want to play...I promise
God's and Heroes is definitely getting a try from me. It holds the spot that Vangard held last year for me. It's a must pre-order. The well animated, decision based and tactical combat are a real attraction to me. The community thus far is very good and seems to be populated with the type of core MMO player I remember from my early days in MMO gaming(ie. intelligent, community minded, helpful, competetive). It's community is currently smaller than Vangard but has been slowly growing and I think it will enjoy modest success if it delivers on what it is being promoted to be. I REALLY can't wait to try this one out.
Both the above further my conserns with WAR's commuinity,this is why is could flop at the start.. Like I said because of it's looks it's been dubbed like WoW, but reading into it it's clearly not, it's DAoC but 'fixed' imo, hence why i'm hoping to damn god the hype off the other titles draw the WoW-kiddie-base AWAY from WAR, otherwise the 'mature' playerbase wouldn't touch this with a barge poll.. (or we can always find a server and hide on it), in a sence anything thats currently dubbed 'WoW-like' (witch is basically any mainstream game, yes this does include Vangard, Gods and Heroes, and if it ever comes out of 'develement' Darkfall) will have a limited playerbase imo, as the 'big paying' players will keep away from them purly on the comminuty 'childness'..
Reason being I don't wont WoW to die and continue to be 'the' game to keep that playerbase contained, it's not a solid playerbase it's as fikle as hell..
Bring on the WARRRRGGHH!
Games always seem amazing when the only info you're allowed to get is info the company lets you have, and the gameplay videos that the company comes out with.
Trust me, when they get released, they won't be as "amazing" as you think.
In the meantime, I will be playing FFXI. I miss the story centric world. It isn't just about raids and the like. Anywho, feel free to keep commenting and posting about the three games. I will try to as well.
Warhammer, pvp is something that appeals me and so far I don't think pvp has been done that well in mmorpgs.
Age of Conan, didn't really join in the hype of this game till I read about some of the mechanics for some of the classes.
Vanguard being an ex EQ player should appeal me but doesn't. The videos
haven't impressed me and generally I just don't get any feeling of it
being a spritual EQ2. Also, it sounds like it is going to be quite high
spec. Could surprise me and be the mmorpg I play, but am more excited
by Warhammer or AoC, or in fact, any other offering coming out. Never
know could be an underdog lurking around.
It's definitely Warhammer for me, from everything released it looks like it's going to be a game about doing fun stuff to advance (not mindless grinding or raiding), where you can gear/level entirely from PVP. Age of Conan and Vanguard are both going to be raid games according to what the developers have said, where your choice is to either raid or be second rate, and I have no desire to raid or be penalized for not raiding.
The question is how you define 'raiding'? AoC from what I know yes does have raid content, but not to the extreme WoW has it.. If you have only ever seen raiding from WoW's view TBH it's compleatly insaine, 'normal' MMOs raiding is to the maxium 12-15-ish players and the raiding areas 'normally' are 1.5-2hrs tops, not the 40 man 6 hour manatory hikes Blizzard inviewed.. I honistly think AoC and quite possibly Vangard will not have a 'raid or die' vison WoW has, if they do, they'll probly fall flat on their face beacuse a) Thanks to WoW many have seen it and don't want it again and b) Those currently obbessed with 'the raid' probly wouldn't 'want' to 'restart' in another game without 'being L33T with EPIX' so it would be hard to pull them away from WoW..
If your expecting WAR not to have such raid content read into Mythic/DAoC and Warrhammer more I'd very much expect, they are about very much 'on mass' gameplay
Bring on the WARRRRGGHH!
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Eh, not for me, that still leaves the community, the lack of challenge and the poor graphics design. The first two of which were my primary complaints.
However, since Warhammer already has a better graphics design, looks to require some actuall forethought into things, and has the opportunity to form a decent community, if one under siege by immaturity so to speak...
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
I don't see any reason to play Vangaurd over EQ2 if I were to play either, theres NDA so can't say much else :P
When the developers of the game refer to what they're putting in the game as 'raiding', you need to discuss the definition with them, not with me. I'm not looking at the game, seeing a description of some content, and saying 'ohh, that's raiding', I'm reading comments from the developers in which they talk about what they call raiding and the role it will have in their game.
Reallly? So you're trying to tell me that EQ raids only take 12-15 players? That Lineage II raids take just over a dozen people? Puh-lease. EQ was virtually synonymous with MMO for a time, and L2 and WOW are the two most popular last I checked. The developers didn't choose the term raid in order to evoke images of gameplay in some game that few people have even heard of, they've clearly chosen the word 'raid' because what they're including is similar to what most people think of when they hear the word 'raid'.
[quote]I honistly think AoC and quite possibly Vangard will not have a 'raid or die' vison WoW has,
Yeah, yeah, the usual cop-outs. "Well, it won't be as bad as WOW" "Well, raid gear will only be a BIT better, not overwhelming" "Well, you're a bad person if you won't enjoy the game unless you can get the best gear". I'm not interested in arguing over exactly what percent advantage raiding will give you, or if the amount you'll be second-rate is enough to constitute 'raid or die', or whether I should care or not; if raiding gives an advantage over not raiding, I want no part of the game, period.
While I have my doubts about Mythic and their attitude towards raiding, unlike AOC and Vanguard devs they haven't said that their game will have raiding and discussed why giving people who do those raids better gear than those who don't is justified in their eyes. If you are expecting WAR to have such raid content, where are the dev quotes about how cool their raids will be - such quotes exist for Vanguard and AOC? I am suspicious that Mythic is going to TOA WAR, but they have not said that they are going to at this point.