I'd be over there if I could finish the registration process. Leel asked me to re-register due to problems their end and I did some time ago, but I've never gotten an email so I could verify.
The boards were split because straddens pro nge and its beyond obvious that SOE or someone made with someone. Splitting forums doesnt solve anything as weve seen. All it did was make twice the trouble with 2 rooms.
Originally posted by dontchathere The boards were split because straddens pro nge and its beyond obvious that SOE or someone made with someone.Splitting forums doesnt solve anything as weve seen. All it did was make twice the trouble with 2 rooms.
And of course you have proof of this. You wouldn't state an opinion as fact, I'm sure. Please, enlighten us all.
LMAO! That site is a freakin joke.... And this one has improved since it opened? I don't think I've EVER seen six locked threads on the main page since I created an account here.
QFE! All we ever wanted was equal treatment. From the outset, the NGE forum was treated as a "you cannot disagree zone" while the (4) NGE fans have been allowed to come here, attack us, attack our positions (in an inane manner) with impunity.
All the while this forum DWARFED the NGE forum in posts and activity. I think that this honestly shocked Stradden and staff, that they seperated us from current, and Pre-NGE was shown to be dominant. SWG is a game that has 5 former subcribers for every current subscriber (or more). It should NOT be a surprise to anyone that any SWG discussion forum open to everyone will be dominated by players who no longer play because of the NGE.
All we wanted was to have our place to talk amongst oursleves. But the NGE vocal minority couldn't have that, and MMORPG.COM has chosen to side with them over the majority. QED.
But Stradden makes the same mistake SOE has. The Pre-NGE SWG community is the most resilient in the history of gaming. Since we've already set out (and have made great progress towards) brining the game back OURSELVES "quack", it took no time at all for us to remake this site for our own community.
I like the two separate forums. On the SOE boards I often see disgruntled vets and fans of the NGE sniping at one another. Vets want to feel free to share their memories and ideas for bringing back enjoyable game play. NGE fans often respond with comments like, "it's not coming back, get over it or leave" etc..
I'm glad that on this site, people who enjoy the current game play can talk about that freely, without being criticized. I'm also glad that vets can share our feelings without being told to "get over it or leave."
I enjoy posting here much more than on the SOE boards because of the way this is set up. I'm also glad that SOE can't delete my posts or ban me for saying or asking things that they may consider bad for business.
Originally posted by KzinKiller Do you still think the Balkanization of Vets and Current from General has served this community well in making information easy to access?
You've had a while to run with this experiment ... personally, I don't think it's very helpful either to the reader or to your site's rep as an objective source of information. Have you considered rollback? What has convinced you that this is worth perpetuating, if not?
MMORPG is committed to the upgraded forum arrangement. It is here to stay! that is until the New Forum Experience gets its surprise release.
Anyone care to venture what the NFE will bring as far as innovations?
This thread is not about SWG, locked!
(Oh wait, crap, I cant do that.) I realize these are SWG forums but considering this is the refuge forum youd think we could get a little slack on topics. Many of us havent played the game in a year. To be honest the only on-topic discussion that interests me now is the games sunset.
Posting here I always felt like I walked a fine line of what was allowed to be discussed and what isnt. If someone found a good rumor, story, humor or whatever you could expect it to be locked or moved to a place were it would never be seen by your peers. Posting over there you have a lot more freedom without fear of getting shut down, being trolled by people who disagree, trolls reporting everything you say for lockage ect (good example is this thread, someone reported the OP?). You get the good discussion and feedback you set out for posting there and that's all that maters to me.
QFE! All we ever wanted was equal treatment. From the outset, the NGE forum was treated as a "you cannot disagree zone" while the (4) NGE fans have been allowed to come here, attack us, attack our positions (in an inane manner) with impunity.
You have some of the same NGE fans as members at rlmmo, I was told by the admin that one certain NGE fan got a special invite to become a member over there. So my question is what's the difference between him posting here and over there? He posts in the super secret SWG forum just like the rest of you do, but you guys defend him there and bash him here...I don't get it.
You have some of the same NGE fans as members at rlmmo,
Yes.
I was told by the admin that one certain NGE fan got a special invite to become a member over there.
Yes.
So my question is what's the difference between him posting here and over there?
He's free to post in either forum, as long as he abides by that forum's regulations.
He posts in the super secret SWG forum just like the rest of you do,
I don't know what forum you're talking about? These aren't the droids you're looking for...
but you guys defend him there and bash him here...I don't get it.
He is only defended against personal attacks. Keep the arguments/debates to the issue, not the man/woman/vegetable/mineral. Many of us displayed the exact same courtesy over here, as well.
You made a thread calling for another member to be banned for disagreeing with you. That isn't cool. It was explained to you that it wasn't cool, and wouldn't/couldn't be tolerated but you were welcome to remain a member of the community. Then, you came here and bitched and cried like a 2 year-old. It was decided to let you "vent", and STILL allow you to remain a member of the community. Finally, the other foot had to come down after it was found that you were replying to yourself through alt accounts in some psychopathic rants. It was decided that you were mentally unstable and you were scheduled for castration...double castration.
There are no "super secrets", just a buffer to keep retreads from trolling the forums.
Zorvan can u read? i never stated a fact i said its beyond obvious. Maybe you should actually read a post before qouting it in red and pointing out non existent points lol. And no i dont have proof as i wasnt making a statement i said it was beyond obvious. Read before you post man = )
Originally posted by Zorvan Originally posted by dontchathere The boards were split because straddens pro nge and its beyond obvious that SOE or someone made with someone.Splitting forums doesnt solve anything as weve seen. All it did was make twice the trouble with 2 rooms.
And of course you have proof of this. You wouldn't state an opinion as fact, I'm sure. Please, enlighten us all.
Originally posted by KzinKiller Do you still think the Balkanization of Vets and Current from General has served this community well in making information easy to access?
You've had a while to run with this experiment ... personally, I don't think it's very helpful either to the reader or to your site's rep as an objective source of information. Have you considered rollback? What has convinced you that this is worth perpetuating, if not?
Sorry, but it had to be done or else shut down the forum altogether. It's been over a year now, time to move on guys. Not meant to be a flame, just a reality check. It's way past sad now.
Sorry, but it had to be done or else shut down the forum altogether. It's been over a year now, time to move on guys. Not meant to be a flame, just a reality check. It's way past sad now. Um, not really responsive to what I asked, but ... yeah, I guess if discussion of topics of interest to participants is 'inappropriate' then the forum should be shut down, because I have this rather old-fashioned notion that it's the only purpose for a forum existing in the first place.
If it's nothing more than empty marketing fluff for advertisers ... by all means, pull the plug.
yes it's sad. sad to see mmorpg.com tow the soe line. sad that vets get trampled underfoot yet again. i will never post here again since the long rotten arm of soe reaches even here. soe wanted vets gone, and now mmorpg.com does too. let the jedi fanbois have the room here.
Originally posted by dontchathere Zorvan can u read? i never stated a fact i said its beyond obvious. Maybe you should actually read a post before qouting it in red and pointing out non existent points lol. And no i dont have proof as i wasnt making a statement i said it was beyond obvious. Read before you post man = ) Originally posted by Zorvan Originally posted by dontchathere The boards were split because straddens pro nge and its beyond obvious that SOE or someone made with someone.Splitting forums doesnt solve anything as weve seen. All it did was make twice the trouble with 2 rooms.
And of course you have proof of this. You wouldn't state an opinion as fact, I'm sure. Please, enlighten us all.
I read very well, thank you. And stating that something is "beyond obvious" is the same as calling it fact. If you feel like insulting Stradden and the other staff, as well as implying that they are making deals with SOE or anyone else, I would suggest you have proof when doing so. Or make it "beyond obvious" that you are spouting your uninformed opinion and nothing more.
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I'd be over there if I could finish the registration process. Leel asked me to re-register due to problems their end and I did some time ago, but I've never gotten an email so I could verify.
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And of course you have proof of this. You wouldn't state an opinion as fact, I'm sure. Please, enlighten us all.
And this one has improved since it opened? I don't think I've EVER seen six locked threads on the main page since I created an account here.
edit: Sorry, miscounted. Seven locked threads.
All we ever wanted was equal treatment. From the outset, the NGE forum was treated as a "you cannot disagree zone" while the (4) NGE fans have been allowed to come here, attack us, attack our positions (in an inane manner) with impunity.
All the while this forum DWARFED the NGE forum in posts and activity. I think that this honestly shocked Stradden and staff, that they seperated us from current, and Pre-NGE was shown to be dominant. SWG is a game that has 5 former subcribers for every current subscriber (or more). It should NOT be a surprise to anyone that any SWG discussion forum open to everyone will be dominated by players who no longer play because of the NGE.
All we wanted was to have our place to talk amongst oursleves. But the NGE vocal minority couldn't have that, and MMORPG.COM has chosen to side with them over the majority. QED.
But Stradden makes the same mistake SOE has. The Pre-NGE SWG community is the most resilient in the history of gaming. Since we've already set out (and have made great progress towards) brining the game back OURSELVES "quack", it took no time at all for us to remake this site for our own community.
I like the two separate forums. On the SOE boards I often see disgruntled vets and fans of the NGE sniping at one another. Vets want to feel free to share their memories and ideas for bringing back enjoyable game play. NGE fans often respond with comments like, "it's not coming back, get over it or leave" etc..
I'm glad that on this site, people who enjoy the current game play can talk about that freely, without being criticized. I'm also glad that vets can share our feelings without being told to "get over it or leave."
I enjoy posting here much more than on the SOE boards because of the way this is set up. I'm also glad that SOE can't delete my posts or ban me for saying or asking things that they may consider bad for business.
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MMORPG is committed to the upgraded forum arrangement. It is here to stay! that is until the New Forum Experience gets its surprise release.
Anyone care to venture what the NFE will bring as far as innovations?
This thread is not about SWG, locked!
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Posting here I always felt like I walked a fine line of what was allowed to be discussed and what isnt. If someone found a good rumor, story, humor or whatever you could expect it to be locked or moved to a place were it would never be seen by your peers. Posting over there you have a lot more freedom without fear of getting shut down, being trolled by people who disagree, trolls reporting everything you say for lockage ect (good example is this thread, someone reported the OP?). You get the good discussion and feedback you set out for posting there and that's all that maters to me.
All we ever wanted was equal treatment. From the outset, the NGE forum was treated as a "you cannot disagree zone" while the (4) NGE fans have been allowed to come here, attack us, attack our positions (in an inane manner) with impunity.
You have some of the same NGE fans as members at rlmmo, I was told by the admin that one certain NGE fan got a special invite to become a member over there. So my question is what's the difference between him posting here and over there? He posts in the super secret SWG forum just like the rest of you do, but you guys defend him there and bash him here...I don't get it.
I sleep with a pillow under my gun.
Why, in the name of <your chose god>, would Stradden, or any MMORPG staff care?
You have some of the same NGE fans as members at rlmmo,
Yes.
I was told by the admin that one certain NGE fan got a special invite to become a member over there.
Yes.
So my question is what's the difference between him posting here and over there?
He's free to post in either forum, as long as he abides by that forum's regulations.
He posts in the super secret SWG forum just like the rest of you do,
I don't know what forum you're talking about?
These aren't the droids you're looking for...
but you guys defend him there and bash him here...I don't get it.
He is only defended against personal attacks. Keep the arguments/debates to the issue, not the man/woman/vegetable/mineral.
Many of us displayed the exact same courtesy over here, as well.
You made a thread calling for another member to be banned for disagreeing with you.
That isn't cool.
It was explained to you that it wasn't cool, and wouldn't/couldn't be tolerated but you were welcome to remain a member of the community.
Then, you came here and bitched and cried like a 2 year-old. It was decided to let you "vent", and STILL allow you to remain a member of the community.
Finally, the other foot had to come down after it was found that you were replying to yourself through alt accounts in some psychopathic rants. It was decided that you were mentally unstable and you were scheduled for castration...double castration.
There are no "super secrets", just a buffer to keep retreads from trolling the forums.
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Zorvan can u read? i never stated a fact i said its beyond obvious. Maybe you should actually read a post before qouting it in red and pointing out non existent points lol. And no i dont have proof as i wasnt making a statement i said it was beyond obvious. Read before you post man = )
And of course you have proof of this. You wouldn't state an opinion as fact, I'm sure. Please, enlighten us all.
Um, not really responsive to what I asked, but ... yeah, I guess if discussion of topics of interest to participants is 'inappropriate' then the forum should be shut down, because I have this rather old-fashioned notion that it's the only purpose for a forum existing in the first place.
If it's nothing more than empty marketing fluff for advertisers ... by all means, pull the plug.
yes it's sad. sad to see mmorpg.com tow the soe line. sad that vets get trampled underfoot yet again. i will never post here again since the long rotten arm of soe reaches even here. soe wanted vets gone, and now mmorpg.com does too. let the jedi fanbois have the room here.
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And of course you have proof of this. You wouldn't state an opinion as fact, I'm sure. Please, enlighten us all.
I read very well, thank you. And stating that something is "beyond obvious" is the same as calling it fact. If you feel like insulting Stradden and the other staff, as well as implying that they are making deals with SOE or anyone else, I would suggest you have proof when doing so. Or make it "beyond obvious" that you are spouting your uninformed opinion and nothing more.