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What blizzard is doing while you play WoW

codenam47codenam47 Member UncommonPosts: 30
Hey all,

i stumbled across a neat little article which may be true/false, not 100% sure but its worth a look.

http://news.mmosite.com/content/2006-11-26/20061126193343858.shtml

Suposdly Blizzard is scanning your browsing history and cookies as you play the game....legal? I know in the EULA it says they can scan your Ram and CPU but nothing about browser history and cookies.

Its the fact they could be selling this information to advertising agencies or collecting personal information a bit alarming.

I dont really see how this is protecting the game or finding cheaters, just because someone clicked a link from say thottbot (which is spammed gold farming sites) dosnt mean they buy from them.

As i said, not sure if its 100% true but its worth a look. Probably another good reason to use Firefox over IE ^_^





Comments

  • SinitassuSinitassu Member Posts: 67
    Be it porn or pictures of my dog, what is on my computer is MY business and surely not blizzards. No matter how many ppl they catch for cheating by doing so it doesn't give them the right to probe through YOUR computer.
    Thats my opinion.

    Even though someone posted that it isn't an invasion of privacy since a machine doesn't understand what is in there even though it scans it, it is none of their business. Glad I'm not playing WoW anymore.

    - Tassu

    "Lick My Weapons"

  • linuxgamerlinuxgamer Member Posts: 126
    Warden Spyware Awareness - What does Blizzard's Warden do?
    http://www.rootkit.com/blog.php?newsid=358
    http://www.rootkit.com/newsread.php?newsid=371


  • SramotaSramota Member Posts: 756

    The day I see some proof instead of a bunch of half-arsed conspiracy ideas,
    I'll care.


    Same goes for you bigfoot!

    Played so far: 9Dragons, AO, AC, AC2, CoX, DAoC, DF, DnL, DR, DDO, Ent, EvE, EQ, EQ2, FoMK, FFO, Fury, GW, HG:L, HZ, L1, L2, M59, MU, NC1, NC2, PS, PT, R:O, RF:O, RYL, Ryzom, SL, SB, SW:G, TR, TCoS, MX:O, UO, VG, WAR, WoW...
    It all sucked.

  • linuxgamerlinuxgamer Member Posts: 126

    Found these web sites on google. It looks like they were already sued over this, but they have altered their methods with Warden.

    http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB19980430S0015
    http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9805/04/privacy_piracy/

    I'd call that proof.

  • CeticarrCeticarr Member Posts: 236

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    Oars freed from their homes long ago
    Lying face up on the floor
    Of my vessel
    I marvel at the stars
    And feel my heart overflow

  • SramotaSramota Member Posts: 756


    Originally posted by linuxgamer
    Found these web sites on google. It looks like they were already sued over this, but they have altered their methods with Warden.http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB19980430S0015
    http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9805/04/privacy_piracy/I'd call that proof.

    Last time I checked the fundamental idea of a working lawsystem is that everyone is innocent until proven otherwise,
    and those two links just state that they're being sued.
    Not sentenced.::::20::

    Played so far: 9Dragons, AO, AC, AC2, CoX, DAoC, DF, DnL, DR, DDO, Ent, EvE, EQ, EQ2, FoMK, FFO, Fury, GW, HG:L, HZ, L1, L2, M59, MU, NC1, NC2, PS, PT, R:O, RF:O, RYL, Ryzom, SL, SB, SW:G, TR, TCoS, MX:O, UO, VG, WAR, WoW...
    It all sucked.

  • linuxgamerlinuxgamer Member Posts: 126

    Originally posted by Sramota
    Originally posted by linuxgamer
    Found these web sites on google. It looks like they were already sued over this, but they have altered their methods with Warden.http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB19980430S0015
    http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9805/04/privacy_piracy/
    I'd call that proof.

    Last time I checked the fundamental idea of a working lawsystem is that everyone is innocent until proven otherwise,
    and those two links just state that they're being sued.
    Not sentenced.::::20::


    The fact remains that they did it and admitted to it. As for it being legal, a court needs to decide. How far will people let these privacy issues go on, I wonder.


  • SramotaSramota Member Posts: 756


    Originally posted by linuxgamer
    The fact remains that they did it and admitted to it. As for it being legal, a court needs to decide. How far will people let these privacy issues go on, I wonder.

    They admitted using anti-piracy software..
    Nothing else.
    And as per usual, Blizzard didn't save any information back then either..

    And as for privacy,
    you never had any anyways so how is this different?

    Played so far: 9Dragons, AO, AC, AC2, CoX, DAoC, DF, DnL, DR, DDO, Ent, EvE, EQ, EQ2, FoMK, FFO, Fury, GW, HG:L, HZ, L1, L2, M59, MU, NC1, NC2, PS, PT, R:O, RF:O, RYL, Ryzom, SL, SB, SW:G, TR, TCoS, MX:O, UO, VG, WAR, WoW...
    It all sucked.

  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457

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  • DabbleDabble Member Posts: 1,043

    does the fact that I play on a Mac OS make it any harder for them to do that sort of stuff?

  • theratmonkeytheratmonkey Member Posts: 684
    Ehh, I can believe a part of it.
    Mostly so they can catch cheaters or people using bots, but not looking through personal information.





    Groovy.

  • HarafnirHarafnir Member UncommonPosts: 1,350
    Only people that can be upset by this are the cheaters.. those that have illegal stuff on their computer.. and kids that hide porn in a subcatalouge from their parents. If Blizzard want to know that I was on SpikedHumor two months ago and watched some boobies, I can only send one message to them: Hope you liked the pictures.

    "This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly.
    It should be thrown with great force"

  • MikeMongerMikeMonger Member Posts: 196

    Ok, I'm going to explain this to all of you people who are all upset about having your PC scanned.

    You give them permission to scan active processes when you click on the "I Agree" button.

    And before all of you amateur lawyers start popping in...

    No, it's not illegal in the slightest.  There is absolutely nothing illegal about a person consciously giving permission to a company/service to scan their computer.

    You're not "forced" to do it.  You can, at any time, uninstall World of Warcraft.  And no, you don't have the "right" to play Blizzard's game, and not abide by Blizzard's rules.

    Not reading the EULA is not a valid defense.  Blizzard has done everything within it's power to make it's Terms of Service available for your review.  Whether you choose to review them or not is not Blizzard's problem...they've met their legal obligation. 

    No, you don't have a "right to privacy", because you agreed to give it up.  And yes, you're fully entitled to give up your right to privacy,  in the exact same way you can give up that right to remain silent when you get arrested.

    Now, for the more technical arguments...

    That article shows what's being scanned with several applications (including Media Player) open.  Warden does indeed scan ALL active processes, because there's no way for it to scan some and not scan others.  Media Player does indeed open up cookies, history, etc.  If you don't want that stuff scanned, make sure it's not running when you launch WoW.

  • GodliestGodliest Member Posts: 3,486
    What can get Blizzard get from looking at your computer? Blizzard Entertainment is a serious coporationa dn if they would try to scam some1 it would be very recognized and they would probably be scammed for billions. If Blizzard scans my compuer, sure it doesn't feel good, but what can they do? Blizzard got the whole worlds eyes on them, and they can't make much illegal with so many looking at them.

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  • MikeMongerMikeMonger Member Posts: 196



    Originally posted by Godliest
    What can get Blizzard get from looking at your computer? Blizzard Entertainment is a serious coporationa dn if they would try to scam some1 it would be very recognized and they would probably be scammed for billions. If Blizzard scans my compuer, sure it doesn't feel good, but what can they do? Blizzard got the whole worlds eyes on them, and they can't make much illegal with so many looking at them.



    And the one key, very important thing that most people who whine about this seem to ignore is this...

    Blizzard already has your credit card info, name, and address.  If Blizzard REALLY wanted to screw its 6 million subscribers over, it already has all the info it needs to do it.

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