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pvp in WAR
bloodseeker
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i was wondering if u guys have any ideas what pvp in war will be like ... is it gonna be pointless like in guild wars ? what do they mean by "the skill of the player will me the difference". Finding a good gear and having max lvl is not important ? 
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PvP won't be as pointless as in GW either.
You can get to the max level if you want by just PvPing, you get experience from it.
There will be PvP missions (in which two oppposing factions have two opposing goals in the same missions, so you have to PvP for it to win the mission)
There will be battlegrounds like in WoW
There will be 'Campaign' PvP battles, (you can take over cities of the other factions)
Yes Skill will be important, it will NOT be like WoW in which you win a duel if you have the best gear. Gear will have buffs and when you level up you will get stronger, but it won't be as important as it is in most games. So a bunch of low levels will be able to kill a high level.
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Firstly, it won't be like WoW. In WoW you can gear a character out in ridiculous epics and hand the controls to a monkey with a hammer and he'll still be able to take down some people with all blue gear. While he eats a banana no less.
I'm a longtime DAOC player. Mythic looks to take the good points from DAOC and apply them to WAR. What you're asking about was one of the good aspects. Gear was importantin DAOC, but it was not all-important like it is in WoW. What was more important is how you used the skills you have. Certain attack styles were only usable after a parry, block or dodge, so you couldn't just button spam one skill and be effective. You had to pay attention to your character and your enemy and use your skills accordingly.
There's also an actual RvR objective to the game, which is actually the underlying theme to everything you do...even PvE. If you want more info there's heaps of it on the official site and fansite forums.
www.warhammeronline.com
www.war-rvr.net
www.only-war.com
www.warhammeralliance.com
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What a horrible first responce....shame on you. SHAME!!
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However, I don't think it would be all that wrong to expect alot of similarities between DAoC RvR/PvP and Warhammer RvR/PvP. With that said, I expect roaming groups of players engaging and avoiding each other in open *battlefield* like areas...as well as PvP based objectives in *Quests*. Also i do expect them to borrow the concept of instanced battleground PvP from WoW...in alot of ways it was a good sucess, so it would be stupid of them to ignore that possibility.
I get so freaking tired of people saying that PvP in Guildwars is pointless. The point of PvP in Guldwars is to *win*. I find it truly sad that all the gear based MMOs out there have convined people that fighting an opponent and defeating them isn't worth anything and doesn't have a point unless you can get loot from it. What, fame and infamy aren't enough for you?
I agree, the point of pvp is and always has been to win. To see if your skilled enough to beat someone with equal/better gear then you..
And, wow may seem gear based. but.. having player skill still gives you an enormous advantage over someone without.
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PvP won't be as pointless as in GW either.
You can get to the max level if you want by just PvPing, you get experience from it.
There will be PvP missions (in which two oppposing factions have two opposing goals in the same missions, so you have to PvP for it to win the mission)
There will be battlegrounds like in WoW
There will be 'Campaign' PvP battles, (you can take over cities of the other factions)
Yes Skill will be important, it will NOT be like WoW in which you win a duel if you have the best gear. Gear will have buffs and when you level up you will get stronger, but it won't be as important as it is in most games. So a bunch of low levels will be able to kill a high level.
Yawn, of course PVP will be pointless. No looting, so just die and come right back, no harm no foul.
Oh boy, PVP missions. Hmm, lets see, an instance where I fight opposing factions. Whatever will I find? Oh yea, an exact size squad as my own to fight in the same place over and over. Whew, for a minute there I thought something might be spontaneous.
Its level based, hence there is no skill involved whatsoever. Your character is just a coathanger to place your equipment because all that matters is your uber gear.
I like to win and that has always been enough reason for me to PvP. I think the problem comes for many people in game like WoW. There isn't enough reward vs. loss for you to win. I kill you in world PvP in WoW (yea right, where can you find that now?!) , I have won and you have lost. What happens? You come back 20 seconds to two minutes later and jump on me again. I have had to kill people up to 6 times to break their spirit and get them to piss off. Heaven forbid they are close to you in skill and you trade deaths for an hour until you get sick of it.
I highly doubt the reward vs. loss would stop the other very common PvP occurence. You fight a fair fight (or sometimes unfair vs. two or three people) and win. Do you keep the victory or fight them multiple times until somebody decides to stop? Oh no! They bring in "The Zerg"! I travel with 1-2 friends in WoW these days, at around level 30 it is easy for us to kill 90% of the level 60s we come across. Equal number fight with a 30 level advantage on their side? Just call in more level 60s!!! lol
That brings me to another point: I hate the difference between gear in WoW and no gear, but skill goes a long, long way. My friends and I understand WoW classes and PvP. The teir 2 epic 60s who expect nothing from 2-3 level 30+ players don't even tickle us before they die. If they are smart, they are still lucky to kill one of us before they die. If the people who "PvP" in WoW switch to WAR and gear/levels makes less of a difference in PvP...I really feel for them. I mean, in our 40s we chain killed 3 60s and too many equal levels to remember in the pirate bay outside Gadget, even when they tried to group up after many, many humiliating deaths.
PvP won't be as pointless as in GW either.
You can get to the max level if you want by just PvPing, you get experience from it.
There will be PvP missions (in which two oppposing factions have two opposing goals in the same missions, so you have to PvP for it to win the mission)
There will be battlegrounds like in WoW
There will be 'Campaign' PvP battles, (you can take over cities of the other factions)
Yes Skill will be important, it will NOT be like WoW in which you win a duel if you have the best gear. Gear will have buffs and when you level up you will get stronger, but it won't be as important as it is in most games. So a bunch of low levels will be able to kill a high level.
Yawn, of course PVP will be pointless. No looting, so just die and come right back, no harm no foul.
Oh boy, PVP missions. Hmm, lets see, an instance where I fight opposing factions. Whatever will I find? Oh yea, an exact size squad as my own to fight in the same place over and over. Whew, for a minute there I thought something might be spontaneous.
Its level based, hence there is no skill involved whatsoever. Your character is just a coathanger to place your equipment because all that matters is your uber gear.
Are you kidding? Do you know anything about the game?
First of all, although there is no lotting(looting is just plane stupid anyway) lose will have consiquences akin to real life. You will have to watch your beloved capitial be destroyed and violated by the enemy. I mean, if you know the first thing about WH Orcs, you know that you don't want one in your house.
Second of all WAR isn't level based. Wtf are you on?
PvP won't be as pointless as in GW either.
You can get to the max level if you want by just PvPing, you get experience from it.
There will be PvP missions (in which two oppposing factions have two opposing goals in the same missions, so you have to PvP for it to win the mission)
There will be battlegrounds like in WoW
There will be 'Campaign' PvP battles, (you can take over cities of the other factions)
Yes Skill will be important, it will NOT be like WoW in which you win a duel if you have the best gear. Gear will have buffs and when you level up you will get stronger, but it won't be as important as it is in most games. So a bunch of low levels will be able to kill a high level.
Yawn, of course PVP will be pointless. No looting, so just die and come right back, no harm no foul.
Oh boy, PVP missions. Hmm, lets see, an instance where I fight opposing factions. Whatever will I find? Oh yea, an exact size squad as my own to fight in the same place over and over. Whew, for a minute there I thought something might be spontaneous.
Its level based, hence there is no skill involved whatsoever. Your character is just a coathanger to place your equipment because all that matters is your uber gear.
PvP missions are quests that send you into RvR areas (This is in the world, not instanced) to fight for your side or to kill a PC. There are also missions that send you through RvR areas, but the quest itself isn't to fight.
Also it's level-based, but in a very different way. It's lateral, which means you choose skills, tactics, abillities as you gain points in each rank in the tier, but you don't just level up until end level and then you're done.
Where have you heard that it's all about "uber gear"? If you can point me in that direction, please do so.
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PvP won't be as pointless as in GW either.
You can get to the max level if you want by just PvPing, you get experience from it.
There will be PvP missions (in which two oppposing factions have two opposing goals in the same missions, so you have to PvP for it to win the mission)
There will be battlegrounds like in WoW
There will be 'Campaign' PvP battles, (you can take over cities of the other factions)
Yes Skill will be important, it will NOT be like WoW in which you win a duel if you have the best gear. Gear will have buffs and when you level up you will get stronger, but it won't be as important as it is in most games. So a bunch of low levels will be able to kill a high level.
Yawn, of course PVP will be pointless. No looting, so just die and come right back, no harm no foul.
Oh boy, PVP missions. Hmm, lets see, an instance where I fight opposing factions. Whatever will I find? Oh yea, an exact size squad as my own to fight in the same place over and over. Whew, for a minute there I thought something might be spontaneous.
Its level based, hence there is no skill involved whatsoever. Your character is just a coathanger to place your equipment because all that matters is your uber gear.
seriously, you couldn't be more wrong. You don't need looting to have fun in PvP, there will be other ways to punish someone who died in PvP.
You think PvP missions are a joke? Well you can't say how it will be because there is no single game that will have PvP missions as WAR will have. If you don't like the idea of being able to PvP in every different way you want (missions, battlegrounds, campaign or mindless ganking) , I don't understand what you DO like.
WAR will be all about skill, gear wont be as important as it is in other games (they will have buffs, but not that important). Levels also wont be as important as in other games, you will only be able to buy new skills/abilities with the level points you got, you wont get a standart +50% HP etc. every time you level.
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