Originally posted by Cramen Way back when Anarchy Online was in beta, they announced one of the worst games to release... look at it now, i say give AL a chance before you cut its legs off...
It was already given a chance,it crashed,burned and died a horrible death in Korea. They were forced to make it free in korea due to dwindling a dwindling customerbase. Unfortunately there are companies like Codemasters that somehow get joy from saving dead games and reviving them.
Actually, AL isn't dead in Korea. Making a game free to play doesn't mean the game is going bad, this is just the new market in asia. Even big titles like RF Online, R.O.S.E and SUN are going for an item shop model, because it works a lot better in korea.
Originally posted by RyuukoGo Originally posted by zigmundRyuuPaying money for dog poo is just wrong.If I can just save just one person from this monumental piece of dog doo I'll feel like I've done my job, I'm sorry the game is just that bad. If you like it great, but there's hardly anyone who agrees with you.That is your personal opinon and is not shared by everyone...no one is saying AL is the best MMORPG out now.AL is a simple MMORPG that does not require you to LFG for hours,take 3-5 hours for a Quest/Mission like FFXI,yes it has bugs,few play it,the Programmers at NHN spends more time sitting on their hands than at the keyboard and so on.If you think AL is bad go read about Horizons and Dark & Lights billing problems.I read that AL is cheap as $19.99..the first month is free...so even if someone buys it that cheap and quit after 10 hours...they got the same amount of Game Play as they would have from any other PC Game.I do not understand why some of you get so emo about Archlord...you post as if though you pre-paid for 5 years and bought stock in NHN/CM
The game has a nice graphics but the only problem is that you will pay to play this game and that's rubbish company shouldn't make people pay when they got to pay their bills so i really don't agree with you on this RyuukoGo
The game has a 5.8 review on this site for a reason - yes it's that bad.
Something fans of the game continue to ignore.
5.8 is 5.8 = bad game.
If you want to pay to play a bad game that's your right, but don't come here and mislead new people who might be thinking of trying the game - you have a responsibility to let people know how bad this game is.
Originally posted by zigmund If you want to pay to play a bad game that's your right, but don't come here and mislead new people who might be thinking of trying the game - you have a responsibility to let people know how bad this game is.
You may want to ad that you quit at level 52 and untilll then you seemed to enjoy Archlord...so to now post that no one should even try Archlord is
The game has a 5.8 review on this site for a reason - yes it's that bad. Something fans of the game continue to ignore. 5.8 is 5.8 = bad game. If you want to pay to play a bad game that's your right, but don't come here and mislead new people who might be thinking of trying the game - you have a responsibility to let people know how bad this game is.
a responsibility? Will you please grow up? Its a GAME. it didn't rape your dog or anything, seriously. Learn that your opinion is not a fact, get over yourself. People are enjoying the game, and I'm sure there are many other people not playing who would also enjoy the game. its in their right to try the game, without you people thinking its actually a responsibility to let other people know about your opinion.
If you want to act like you have a responsibility, go to your local hospital and go help out there if you want to do something useful, instead of discouraging people to actually TRY the game first before having an opinion about it.
a person who made lvl 52 in this game over this period of time, is someone who was like constantly grinding/grinding/grinding to trying to be the best..
This is what i already mentioned not needed in this game.. If u have avg server lvl ( witch is now somewhere 40's ) then ur more then good to do guildbattles, pvp events and so on, it will bring u lotsa fun ,and for that u don't have to grind 50 hr's a week.
If u for urself want to be top of the server and u get burned out, it's a personal problem and that has nothing to do with this game beeing good or not.
And as stated before, pointless sentences like "Don't buy this game" ; "This is crap" should never be the title of a topic. we are here to talk about a game, if u don't like a game, then it's ur right to mention, and u should mention what u don't like about it. But scaring everyone off by these pointless topics is stupid and unnecessary.
Archlord is the worst MMORPG I have ever played. I have never played a game and got bored before the first months subscription ran out...I been playing MMORPG for a long time(10+year) and about 15 Titles but I have never felt the need to voice my opinion until I played Archlord. Please dont waste your time on this game.
For starters let me explain all the positive side of the game so you dont think I am just venting because of the $50 loss.
Now, I can list about 100 things wrong about this game but I will only state the obvious.
1. 1-10 lvl very nice but after that grind, grind grind and more grind...
2. Archlord was marketed as a pvp game and it isn't. Noone really pvps..There is no ranking or bonuses to pvp.
Even guild battles are hard to come by... Noone wants to do it...you waste gold and time just doing it.
3.Questing is terrible and boring, same thing over and over..go chick on a rock, tree, statue..etc. You might get few good items from doing quest but experience on them stinks. And after lvl 20ish you only get like 3 a lvl.
4.Experience loss due to death...I am not a fan of this. After 3 hours of grinding and only getting 20% in lvl 35 I died twice w/ in 5 minutes due to lag and bad pathing...ops you lose 6%...BAH!!!
5.The instance is the same thing over and over and over again.
6.AI on npcs..NONE
7.Game is just boring and has no imagination. If I was brain dead and was forced to watch this game I will wake up and commit "Seppuku"
This game has nothing going for them...You cant even find players anymore just farmers and bots.
Originally posted by therainman64 Archlord is the worst MMORPG I have ever played. I have never played a game and got bored before the first months subscription ran out...I been playing MMORPG for a long time(10+year) and about 15 Titles but I have never felt the need to voice my opinion until I played Archlord. Please dont waste your time on this game. For starters let me explain all the positive side of the game so you dont think I am just venting because of the $50 loss. 1. Beautiful graphics: fighting sytles, magic spells, pets, npcs, all beautifully done. 2.hmmm that's about it. Now, I can list about 100 things wrong about this game but I will only state the obvious. 1. 1-10 lvl very nice but after that grind, grind grind and more grind... 2. Archlord was marketed as a pvp game and it isn't. Noone really pvps..There is no ranking or bonuses to pvp. Even guild battles are hard to come by... Noone wants to do it...you waste gold and time just doing it. 3.Questing is terrible and boring, same thing over and over..go chick on a rock, tree, statue..etc. You might get few good items from doing quest but experience on them stinks. And after lvl 20ish you only get like 3 a lvl. 4.Experience loss due to death...I am not a fan of this. After 3 hours of grinding and only getting 20% in lvl 35 I died twice w/ in 5 minutes due to lag and bad pathing...ops you lose 6%...BAH!!! 5.The instance is the same thing over and over and over again. 6.AI on npcs..NONE 7.Game is just boring and has no imagination. If I was brain dead and was forced to watch this game I will wake up and commit "Seppuku"
This game has nothing going for them...You cant even find players anymore just farmers and bots.
What instance? There are no instances in this game.
Dec 20,1999: AC1(DT).Since then:DAoC,SB,AC2,L2,EvE,WoW,SoR ==================== Currently playing: ArchLord - L58 Knight LoTRo - L13 Dwarf Guardian
Originally posted by RyuukoGo Originally posted by zigmundRyuuPaying money for dog poo is just wrong.If I can just save just one person from this monumental piece of dog doo I'll feel like I've done my job, I'm sorry the game is just that bad. If you like it great, but there's hardly anyone who agrees with you.That is your personal opinon and is not shared by everyone...no one is saying AL is the best MMORPG out now.AL is a simple MMORPG that does not require you to LFG for hours,take 3-5 hours for a Quest/Mission like FFXI,yes it has bugs,few play it,the Programmers at NHN spends more time sitting on their hands than at the keyboard and so on.If you think AL is bad go read about Horizons and Dark & Lights billing problems.I read that AL is cheap as $19.99..the first month is free...so even if someone buys it that cheap and quit after 10 hours...they got the same amount of Game Play as they would have from any other PC Game.I do not understand why some of you get so emo about Archlord...you post as if though you pre-paid for 5 years and bought stock in NHN/CM
lol... are you new at visiting game forums? Many posters are emo about everything :-)
But seriously.. .the game is getting panned quite widely. I haven't seen a single good review for it yet. I've spoken to people who've played it and didn't like it at all. It would be a bit ridiculous to read all that feedback and then say "Wow.. this sounds like a great game!"
A bad review here and there - fine. But when they're as commonly negative as AL's are... people tend to notice.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Originally posted by Gameloading Originally posted by zigmund The game has a 5.8 review on this site for a reason - yes it's that bad. Something fans of the game continue to ignore. 5.8 is 5.8 = bad game. If you want to pay to play a bad game that's your right, but don't come here and mislead new people who might be thinking of trying the game - you have a responsibility to let people know how bad this game is.
a responsibility? Will you please grow up? Its a GAME. it didn't rape your dog or anything, seriously. Learn that your opinion is not a fact, get over yourself. People are enjoying the game, and I'm sure there are many other people not playing who would also enjoy the game. its in their right to try the game, without you people thinking its actually a responsibility to let other people know about your opinion.
If you want to act like you have a responsibility, go to your local hospital and go help out there if you want to do something useful, instead of discouraging people to actually TRY the game first before having an opinion about it.
Wait.. did you just lecture someone else about "opinions"?
Well that's rich.
This, after you, in anoother thread, dismiss a reviewers *opinions* because they don't match your own. "must have been having a bad day" and "obviously didn't realize it was the London Symphony Orchestra" to paraphrase a couple dismissals you posted in response to low scores the reviewer gave.
I think you need to get off the soap-box a bit there, guy. You're in no position to be lecturing anyone else about opinions.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
I tried to give the game a chance but I couldnt get passed level 25, it was just to boring. I guess mmo's just need to do something differant because the grind/lvl/grind/ treadmills are not my thing at all anymore.To top it off the GM's are the same from DnL.
Now their making the game free - I rest my case. If you can't get people to pay to play a crapopy game, then I guess your left with no other option but to give it away.
Indeed, you SHOULD rest your case. Go find a game you enjoy and go talk about that.
Also, a low playerbase says nothing about the quality of the game. Look at Saga of Ryzom, fine game, is now bankrupt. E&B, exact same thing.
Originally posted by Gameloading Originally posted by zigmund Now their making the game free - I rest my case. If you can't get people to pay to play a crapopy game, then I guess your left with no other option but to give it away.
Indeed, you SHOULD rest your case. Go find a game you enjoy and go talk about that.
Also, a low playerbase says nothing about the quality of the game. Look at Saga of Ryzom, fine game, is now bankrupt. E&B, exact same thing.
No,but a game dying twice in two different parts of the world, a short period of time after being released due to being a pile of dung speaks volumes.
"It's only beta" ... "This game is not for everyone" ...
You gotta update your standard quote to "It's not for anyone,it's only died. Twice."
Havent read through the posts other than the first one and i thoroughly agree that archlord is probably one of the worst games i ever played but dude i really have to question your sanity in that to reach level 52 in a month u must a been playing 20 a day grinding and its took you to level 52 to realise what a crap game it is?
My god i had mine cancelled after 2 days of playing and hung the game disk up in my garden cos the disks are good for keeping cats form coming shitting in your garden.
Greatness is difficult to appreciate from close up. The great mountain on the horizon is only the ground when you are standing on it.
"Also, a low playerbase says nothing about the quality of the game"
Ah hello.... you're not serious are you?
Rysom is not a great game either, it's an ok game - but not a great game.
Anyways it's obvious you and i differ on what makes a good game, but I will say this, subscriber numbers seem to favor my views.
And at the end of the day a company that cannot make money with it's product, does not have a good product - I would hate to have you running one of my companies.
Originally posted by Eranu Havent read through the posts other than the first one and i thoroughly agree that archlord is probably one of the worst games i ever played but dude i really have to question your sanity in that to reach level 52 in a month u must a been playing 20 a day grinding and its took you to level 52 to realise what a crap game it is? My god i had mine cancelled after 2 days of playing and hung the game disk up in my garden cos the disks are good for keeping cats form coming shitting in your garden.
Fair point, I was in the top guild in the game, and that's the way we played - to win.
So we tended to see the game for everything it was, bugs, exploits (and there are many), the good (graphics), the bad (pve) and the ugly (pvp).
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Actually, AL isn't dead in Korea. Making a game free to play doesn't mean the game is going bad, this is just the new market in asia. Even big titles like RF Online, R.O.S.E and SUN are going for an item shop model, because it works a lot better in korea.
The game has a nice graphics but the only problem is that you will pay to play this game and that's rubbish company shouldn't make people pay when they got to pay their bills so i really don't agree with you on this RyuukoGo
The game has a 5.8 review on this site for a reason - yes it's that bad.
Something fans of the game continue to ignore.
5.8 is 5.8 = bad game.
If you want to pay to play a bad game that's your right, but don't come here and mislead new people who might be thinking of trying the game - you have a responsibility to let people know how bad this game is.
a responsibility? Will you please grow up? Its a GAME. it didn't rape your dog or anything, seriously. Learn that your opinion is not a fact, get over yourself. People are enjoying the game, and I'm sure there are many other people not playing who would also enjoy the game. its in their right to try the game, without you people thinking its actually a responsibility to let other people know about your opinion.
If you want to act like you have a responsibility, go to your local hospital and go help out there if you want to do something useful, instead of discouraging people to actually TRY the game first before having an opinion about it.
a person who made lvl 52 in this game over this period of time, is someone who was like constantly grinding/grinding/grinding to trying to be the best..
This is what i already mentioned not needed in this game.. If u have avg server lvl ( witch is now somewhere 40's ) then ur more then good to do guildbattles, pvp events and so on, it will bring u lotsa fun ,and for that u don't have to grind 50 hr's a week.
If u for urself want to be top of the server and u get burned out, it's a personal problem and that has nothing to do with this game beeing good or not.
And as stated before, pointless sentences like "Don't buy this game" ; "This is crap" should never be the title of a topic. we are here to talk about a game, if u don't like a game, then it's ur right to mention, and u should mention what u don't like about it. But scaring everyone off by these pointless topics is stupid and unnecessary.
Greetz
otta
luckily everyone knows that kind of people and those post will be ignored..
greetz
otta
Interesting opinion. Care to explain why?
Dec 20,1999: AC1(DT).Since then:DAoC,SB,AC2,L2,EvE,WoW,SoR
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Currently playing: ArchLord - L58 Knight
LoTRo - L13 Dwarf Guardian
Archlord is the worst MMORPG I have ever played. I have never played a game and got bored before the first months subscription ran out...I been playing MMORPG for a long time(10+year) and about 15 Titles but I have never felt the need to voice my opinion until I played Archlord. Please dont waste your time on this game.
For starters let me explain all the positive side of the game so you dont think I am just venting because of the $50 loss.
1. Beautiful graphics: fighting sytles, magic spells, pets, npcs, all beautifully done.
2.hmmm that's about it.
Now, I can list about 100 things wrong about this game but I will only state the obvious.
1. 1-10 lvl very nice but after that grind, grind grind and more grind...
2. Archlord was marketed as a pvp game and it isn't. Noone really pvps..There is no ranking or bonuses to pvp.
Even guild battles are hard to come by... Noone wants to do it...you waste gold and time just doing it.
3.Questing is terrible and boring, same thing over and over..go chick on a rock, tree, statue..etc. You might get few good items from doing quest but experience on them stinks. And after lvl 20ish you only get like 3 a lvl.
4.Experience loss due to death...I am not a fan of this. After 3 hours of grinding and only getting 20% in lvl 35 I died twice w/ in 5 minutes due to lag and bad pathing...ops you lose 6%...BAH!!!
5.The instance is the same thing over and over and over again.
6.AI on npcs..NONE
7.Game is just boring and has no imagination. If I was brain dead and was forced to watch this game I will wake up and commit "Seppuku"
This game has nothing going for them...You cant even find players anymore just farmers and bots.
What instance? There are no instances in this game.
Dec 20,1999: AC1(DT).Since then:DAoC,SB,AC2,L2,EvE,WoW,SoR
====================
Currently playing: ArchLord - L58 Knight
LoTRo - L13 Dwarf Guardian
lol... are you new at visiting game forums? Many posters are emo about everything :-)
But seriously.. .the game is getting panned quite widely. I haven't seen a single good review for it yet. I've spoken to people who've played it and didn't like it at all. It would be a bit ridiculous to read all that feedback and then say "Wow.. this sounds like a great game!"
A bad review here and there - fine. But when they're as commonly negative as AL's are... people tend to notice.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
a responsibility? Will you please grow up? Its a GAME. it didn't rape your dog or anything, seriously. Learn that your opinion is not a fact, get over yourself. People are enjoying the game, and I'm sure there are many other people not playing who would also enjoy the game. its in their right to try the game, without you people thinking its actually a responsibility to let other people know about your opinion.
If you want to act like you have a responsibility, go to your local hospital and go help out there if you want to do something useful, instead of discouraging people to actually TRY the game first before having an opinion about it.
Wait.. did you just lecture someone else about "opinions"?
Well that's rich.
This, after you, in anoother thread, dismiss a reviewers *opinions* because they don't match your own. "must have been having a bad day" and "obviously didn't realize it was the London Symphony Orchestra" to paraphrase a couple dismissals you posted in response to low scores the reviewer gave.
I think you need to get off the soap-box a bit there, guy. You're in no position to be lecturing anyone else about opinions.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Now their making the game free - I rest my case.
If you can't get people to pay to play a crapopy game, then I guess your left with no other option but to give it away.
{(RIP)} SWG
Indeed, you SHOULD rest your case. Go find a game you enjoy and go talk about that.
Also, a low playerbase says nothing about the quality of the game. Look at Saga of Ryzom, fine game, is now bankrupt. E&B, exact same thing.
Indeed, you SHOULD rest your case. Go find a game you enjoy and go talk about that.
Also, a low playerbase says nothing about the quality of the game. Look at Saga of Ryzom, fine game, is now bankrupt. E&B, exact same thing.
No,but a game dying twice in two different parts of the world, a short period of time after being released due to being a pile of dung speaks volumes.
"It's only beta"
...
"This game is not for everyone"
...
You gotta update your standard quote to "It's not for anyone,it's only died. Twice."
Havent read through the posts other than the first one and i thoroughly agree that archlord is probably one of the worst games i ever played but dude i really have to question your sanity in that to reach level 52 in a month u must a been playing 20 a day grinding and its took you to level 52 to realise what a crap game it is?
My god i had mine cancelled after 2 days of playing and hung the game disk up in my garden cos the disks are good for keeping cats form coming shitting in your garden.
Greatness is difficult to appreciate from close up. The great mountain on the horizon is only the ground when you are standing on it.
BUY THIS GAME
"Also, a low playerbase says nothing about the quality of the game"
Ah hello.... you're not serious are you?
Rysom is not a great game either, it's an ok game - but not a great game.
Anyways it's obvious you and i differ on what makes a good game, but I will say this, subscriber numbers seem to favor my views.
And at the end of the day a company that cannot make money with it's product, does not have a good product - I would hate to have you running one of my companies.
Fair point, I was in the top guild in the game, and that's the way we played - to win.
So we tended to see the game for everything it was, bugs, exploits (and there are many), the good (graphics), the bad (pve) and the ugly (pvp).