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the almighty dollar

ursinursin Member Posts: 148

i have been a subscriber to MMORPG for a good while now, and today, I decided I need to say something... so here goes...

http://www.yourvirtualseller.com/index.aspx?ref=103 is one of the banners on the top of your main screen every now and then.... I understand that some games support in game items for out of game currency, but the game depicted in their banner is WoW which, well... doesn't.

 

I think a site dedicated to a healthy MMO environment should not be supporting or accepting money from a business enterprise that blatantly disregards the EULA or Terms of Use of a vast number of the games it supplies.

i just went and looked, and WoW EQ, EQII (outside of what SoE has structured) do not, i know because I play/played them... I don't think CoH does, having dabbled in the game, and i doubt SWG does because it's under the SoE umbrella.....

someone correct me if i'm wrong :)

 

but hey, that's just me, what do i know...

thank you for listening.

 

edited to clarify EULA or Terms of Use.

"We aren't going to ... Period. End of statement."

ya. ok. whatever.

but what do i know, i'm only a vanbois i'm told.

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  • JelloB2000JelloB2000 Member CommonPosts: 1,848
  • ursinursin Member Posts: 148

    Example 1) http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.shtml

     

    Remember, at the outset of these Terms of Use, where we discussed how you were "licensed" the right to use World of Warcraft, and that your license was "limited"? Well, here is one of the more important areas where these license limitations come into effect. Note that Blizzard Entertainment either owns, or has exclusively licensed, all of the content which appears in World of Warcraft. Therefore, no one has the right to "sell" Blizzard Entertainment's content, except Blizzard Entertainment! So Blizzard Entertainment does not recognize any property claims outside of World of Warcraft or the purported sale, gift or trade in the "real world" of anything related to World of Warcraft. Accordingly, you may not sell items for "real" money or exchange items outside of World of Warcraft.

     

    Example 2) EQ II EULA

    Except in connection with Station Exchange and subject to all of the provisions of the Station Exchange Service Agreement, you may not buy, sell or auction (or host or facilitate the ability to allow others to buy, sell or auction) any Game account, characters, items, coin or copyrighted material or any other intellectual property owned or controlled by us or our licensors without first obtaining our express written permission.

     

    Example 3) Matrix Online EULA

    8. We and our licensors and suppliers shall retain all rights, title and interest, including, without limitation, ownership of all intellectual property rights relating to or residing in the Disc, the Software and the Game, all copies thereof, and all game character data in connection therewith. You acknowledge and agree that you have not and will not acquire or obtain any intellectual property or other rights, including any right of exploitation, of any kind in or to the Disc, the Software or the Game, including, without limitation, in any artwork, music, character(s), item(s), monetary unit(s) or other material or property, and/or any compilation or copyrightable arrangement of any of the above (collectively, “Rights”), and that all such property, material, items and Rights are exclusively owned by us – except solely as SOE may permit you to exploit Virtual Goods in connection with Station Exchange.

     

    Example 4) DDO EULA

    Except as expressly permitted by Turbine by written notice (and in such event in accordance with Turbine’s specified restrictions and guidelines), you may not buy, sell, or auction (or offer, host, or facilitate the ability of others, to buy, sell, or auction), share, or otherwise commercially exploit, the Software or any part of the Game, account, password, characters, housing, items, credits, currency or coin or any other virtual in-game items and/or copyrighted, trademarked or patented material contained in or generated by the Game.

    example 5) Guild Wars

    7. OFFICIAL SERVICE

    The Game(s) is designed for official play only as offered through the Service by NC Interactive at the Web Site and not through any other means. You further agree not to access, create or provide any other means through which Game(s) may be played by others, as through server emulators. You agree not to use any hardware or software, including but not limited to third party tools, or any other method of support which may in any way influence or advantage your use of the Service which is not authorized by NC Interactive, including but not limited to the use of 'bots' and/or any other method by which the Service may be played automatically without human input. You acknowledge that you do not have the right to create, publish, distribute, create derivative works from or use any software programs, utilities, applications, emulators or tools derived from or created for the Game(s), except that you may use the Software to the extent expressly permitted by this Agreement. You may not take any action which imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on our infrastructure. You may not sell or auction any Game(s) accounts, characters, items, coin or copyrighted material, nor may you assist others in doing so.

    example 6) Star Wars Galaxies

    You may not buy, sell or auction (or host or facilitate the ability to allow others to buy, sell or auction) any Account or any Game characters, items, credits or copyrighted material or any other intellectual property owned or controlled by us or our licensors without first obtaining our express written permission.

    Example 7) Runescape

    Rule 12 - Real World Item Trading

    RuneScape items must only be exchanged for other items/services within the game.

    Exchanging RuneScape items for items or other benefits in other online games, real-life money or other real-life benefits is not allowed.

     

    Example 8) City of Villains Terms of Use

     

    He may not sell or auction any of the PlayNC accounts, Game accounts, avatars, items, currency or copyrighted material.


    Example 9) EVE

     

    3.2 If you download software, files and images contained in or generated by software, or data accompanying software (collectively referred to as the “Software”) from the Web Site then you are deemed to have downloaded such Software solely for your personal, noncommercial home use. CCP transfers neither the title nor the intellectual property rights to the Software upon the download of the Software.

     

    "We aren't going to ... Period. End of statement."

    ya. ok. whatever.

    but what do i know, i'm only a vanbois i'm told.

  • skywisenightskywisenight Member UncommonPosts: 348
    [disclaimer] I do agree with you, that the above service is most likely breaking the TOS for these games, and isn't the "honest" way to play, and most certaily isn't something I would personally do myself.[/disclaimer]

    But, lets be honest here, there are actualy people who are willing to use such a service, illegal or not.  It's the beauty of choice.  They have the choice to use it.  Showing that the choice is there isn't necessarily wrong. 

    Go watch TV.  It shows people shooting other people all the time with guns, drug use, and countless other illeagal things every day.  So, should we chastise the broadcasters for this?  Maybe.  What about all the people who actually want to see this?  In a really broad sense, what if someone wants to go buy a gun and shoot someone?  They do have that choice, and if they do, they get the consiquence related to it.  It's not the broadcasters fault that some dude shot someone because they saw it on tv.  The dude made that choice.

    I guess, as you can tell, I'm pretty liberal (not as in policital party).  But the same could apply here.  MMORPG.com isn't telling you to go buy ingame resources for real money, just like the newspaper ad isn't telling you that you have to buy stuff from Futureshop by MacMacMall just because there's an ad in the paper.  It just happens that some people are ok with this and if they are, should they not have the choice?


    Oh, and Hail to a fellow Nova Scotian!  I grew up in Waverley/Bedford.


  • wishbone10wishbone10 Member Posts: 36
    WOW THIS IS QUITE INTRESTING!!!

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    Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pr0n surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot XXX galore'. While I clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, "'Tis not possible!", I muttered, "Give me back my free hardcore!"..... Quoth the server, 404

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