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Don't get your hopes up

Man it seems like Vanguard has exploded within the last few weeks, with the pre-order box coming out...I think people are getting a little too over-excited, there is still A LOT of work that needs to be done until launch, if they launch it on the day they say(end of next month i believe) I think that people are really going to get their hopes up, this game is not ready for launch within a month. I bet SOE is doing the usual on Sigil which is pushing the game out before it is nearly done-then try fix it while people are paying...that's what they've done with almost all their titles. And try and get it ready near the holidays.

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  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489

    1) They haven't said when it will launch.

    2) Brad has said it will launch when ready more times then I can count. It was originally scheduled for last Christmas.

    3) SOE has no say in when it launches, as stated in the Sigil / SOE FAQ.

    I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • dragonacedragonace Member UncommonPosts: 1,185

    Originally posted by MX13
    1) They haven't said when it will launch. 2) Brad has said it will launch when ready more times then I can count. It was originally scheduled for last Christmas. 3) SOE has no say in when it launches, as stated in the Sigil / SOE FAQ.

    In case what MX13 said wasn't read the first time!  Don't believe the dates put out by your gaming vendor, heck even the dates put out by the developer and/or publisher aren't right most of the time.  It'll be out when it's out. 
  • StellosStellos Member UncommonPosts: 1,491

    No one knows when this game is going to be out officially, disregard anything you read unless it is from God himself.  I also don't believe the game would be released prematurly with a ton of forseen bugs and exploits.  They will release a good product, however, the question is when will they release it?

  • GungaDinGungaDin Member UncommonPosts: 514



    Originally posted by Drumwiz
    Man it seems like Vanguard has exploded within the last few weeks, with the pre-order box coming out...I think people are getting a little too over-excited, there is still A LOT of work that needs to be done until launch, if they launch it on the day they say(end of next month i believe) I think that people are really going to get their hopes up, this game is not ready for launch within a month. I bet SOE is doing the usual on Sigil which is pushing the game out before it is nearly done-then try fix it while people are paying...that's what they've done with almost all their titles. And try and get it ready near the holidays.


    Exactly...... SWG all over again.  My advice, wait a few months till they fix all the bugs.
  • folkienfolkien Member Posts: 32
    They can take all the time they want af far as I am concerned.  I would rather play a finished game, than something unfinished because the fanbase is whining.


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  • JohnFattyJohnFatty Member Posts: 9

    I find it better to listen to the vendors about when products will arrive, at least more so than a developer.  GameStop says Pre-Orders ship on 1/29/07.  If they actually hit that date is anyones guess, I remember when the game was suppose to be done last year.

    As to waiting a few months...count me in as one who will be setting up shot on day one.

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  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489



    Originally posted by JohnFatty

    I find it better to listen to the vendors about when products will arrive, at least more so than a developer.  GameStop says Pre-Orders ship on 1/29/07.  If they actually hit that date is anyones guess, I remember when the game was suppose to be done last year.
    As to waiting a few months...count me in as one who will be setting up shot on day one.
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    Yeah, they also said it shipped last July before that...

    I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • EthanaelEthanael Member UncommonPosts: 194
  • WarspineWarspine Member Posts: 105
    If you dont want it, Dont buy it.

    If you dont like it, Dont read about it or "warn" others about it.

    In my opinion, The game will release almost done, like every other game you will find a bug in it somewhere.
    It wont be a major bug, and it will prolly be resolved within a short period of time.

    This game will be old school, it will be time consuming, it will be large, it will be grinding.
    Im just waiting for it, and i will see if i like it.

    Im hoping for a great game!



  • Nikoz78Nikoz78 Member UncommonPosts: 910

    Originally posted by JohnFatty
    I find it better to listen to the vendors about when products will arrive, at least more so than a developer.  GameStop says Pre-Orders ship on 1/29/07.  If they actually hit that date is anyones guess, I remember when the game was suppose to be done last year. As to waiting a few months...count me in as one who will be setting up shot on day one. image
    LOL. I remember early this year a GameStop dude was trying to convince me that the game was coming out in April. Many of the people at GameStop don't know very much about the gaming world (but some do). I felt weird that after talking to their manager for half an hour that I knew much more about gaming (it's history and current state) than the guy in charge at a gaming store. Don't believe too much of what those guys say dude. They are the  underpaid/underqualified McDonalds employees of the gaming industry.


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    I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.

  • Rhystic02Rhystic02 Member Posts: 82



    Originally posted by Nikoz78



    Originally posted by JohnFatty

    I find it better to listen to the vendors about when products will arrive, at least more so than a developer.  GameStop says Pre-Orders ship on 1/29/07.  If they actually hit that date is anyones guess, I remember when the game was suppose to be done last year.
    As to waiting a few months...count me in as one who will be setting up shot on day one.
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    LOL. I remember early this year a GameStop dude was trying to convince me that the game was coming out in April. Many of the people at GameStop don't know very much about the gaming world (but some do). I felt weird that after talking to their manager for half an hour that I knew much more about gaming (it's history and current state) than the guy in charge at a gaming store. Don't believe too much of what those guys say dude. They are the  underpaid/underqualified McDonalds employees of the gaming industry.



    Being a gamestop employee, I take slight offense to this. I seriously doubt in my store, that someone is better qualified to talk about games especially (MMORPGS), then me. Honestly. I only work for the enjoyment of talking about games to others, not the pay. Discount is fine, but the store is on the high price end to begin with.

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  • ZahrimZahrim Member Posts: 4
    Hooray for misinformation!  Game sites like Gamestop/EBGames have no clue when a game will release until the Publisher tells them.  Jan 29th is completely made up by them...it's going to be Q1, 2007, PERIOD.

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  • VengefulVengeful Member Posts: 473

    Not sure if you guys realized, but the Pre-release sales will give Sigil a little more funding to finish up what isn't finished, because I'm sure they were running low on cash.

    I doubt the game will disappoint, especially if you don't expect it to like.... cure cancer.

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  • metalcoremetalcore Member Posts: 798

    They have said when it will be launched, Q1 2007.

    Q1 is from January to March, companies like Gamestop are guessing until there is an offical release date, they have to put something so they guess.

    MMORPGs are never ever finished, its the nature of the beast, they continually evolve. At some point someone has to say, thats the starting point, I have every confidence they will not do anything to damage the game.

    Now playing: VG (after a long break from MMORPGS)
    Played for more than a month: Darkfall online, Vanguard SOH, Everquest, Horizons, WoW, SWG, Everquest II, Eve

  • IdesofMarchIdesofMarch Member Posts: 1,164



    Originally posted by Rhystic02



    Originally posted by Nikoz78

     
    LOL. I remember early this year a GameStop dude was trying to convince me that the game was coming out in April. Many of the people at GameStop don't know very much about the gaming world (but some do). I felt weird that after talking to their manager for half an hour that I knew much more about gaming (it's history and current state) than the guy in charge at a gaming store. Don't believe too much of what those guys say dude. They are the  underpaid/underqualified McDonalds employees of the gaming industry.



    Being a gamestop employee, I take slight offense to this. I seriously doubt in my store, that someone is better qualified to talk about games especially (MMORPGS), then me. Honestly. I only work for the enjoyment of talking about games to others, not the pay. Discount is fine, but the store is on the high price end to begin with.



    Well he said many, not all. I've been to my fair share of Gamestops, EB Games, and Babbages' to understand where he's coming from and agree.

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  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489



    Originally posted by Rhystic02



    Originally posted by Nikoz78



    Originally posted by JohnFatty

    I find it better to listen to the vendors about when products will arrive, at least more so than a developer.  GameStop says Pre-Orders ship on 1/29/07.  If they actually hit that date is anyones guess, I remember when the game was suppose to be done last year.
    As to waiting a few months...count me in as one who will be setting up shot on day one.
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    LOL. I remember early this year a GameStop dude was trying to convince me that the game was coming out in April. Many of the people at GameStop don't know very much about the gaming world (but some do). I felt weird that after talking to their manager for half an hour that I knew much more about gaming (it's history and current state) than the guy in charge at a gaming store. Don't believe too much of what those guys say dude. They are the  underpaid/underqualified McDonalds employees of the gaming industry.



    Being a gamestop employee, I take slight offense to this. I seriously doubt in my store, that someone is better qualified to talk about games especially (MMORPGS), then me. Honestly. I only work for the enjoyment of talking about games to others, not the pay. Discount is fine, but the store is on the high price end to begin with.



    Id on't agree with the McD's jab, but for the most part what he said is true. I had a great relationship at the old EB Games I was by. The staff were all gamers, and passionate about it. Then I moved, and the EB by me is staffed with sales monkeys. They don't care about games & players, they care about selling and being 1337. It's not that way in all cases, but in far too many it's true.

    I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • DurthuDurthu Member Posts: 29

    I take all my advice from Best Buys and Future Shops.... They seem to be the most credible and know exactly what they are doing.  They almost sold me on a super gaming celeron machine for $500.   They said that this machine would be perfect for all online games... though... they never heard of Vanguard or didn't know what an MMO was. It even has a drink holder that pops right out of the tower! I believe he said that he used to play subspace and could get great resolution with 58 fps.  He also tried to sell me a car stereo that I could jimmy-rig to my new pc with a sounblaster 16.  But he kept on pushing the 10 year warranty on my computer.  I couldn't help but tremble about the fact that lightning could strike my house at any time and fry all my hardware.  I think the $500 warranty is definitely worth it.  YAY!

    But seriously, I respect EB games.  They always spend the time to give their own personal advice on a game and they seem to be very honest if they really haven't personnally experienced a game.  I will only purchase a game from EB since I am a loyal customer so keep it up EB game employees.  You seem pationate about what you do and what you represent. 

    P.S.: Best Buy and Future Shop are only good for practicing your dodge skills as you try and get around commission sales people.  (not even sure if Best Buy is commission based but it really seems like it.)

     

  • ValentinaValentina Member RarePosts: 2,109
    I hate negative attitudes. Stop itimage

    <3 Vanguardimage Im willing to try it and give it a few months.



  • shaeshae Member Posts: 2,509



    Originally posted by MX13



    Originally posted by Rhystic02



    Originally posted by Nikoz78



    Originally posted by JohnFatty

    I find it better to listen to the vendors about when products will arrive, at least more so than a developer.  GameStop says Pre-Orders ship on 1/29/07.  If they actually hit that date is anyones guess, I remember when the game was suppose to be done last year.
    As to waiting a few months...count me in as one who will be setting up shot on day one.
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    LOL. I remember early this year a GameStop dude was trying to convince me that the game was coming out in April. Many of the people at GameStop don't know very much about the gaming world (but some do). I felt weird that after talking to their manager for half an hour that I knew much more about gaming (it's history and current state) than the guy in charge at a gaming store. Don't believe too much of what those guys say dude. They are the  underpaid/underqualified McDonalds employees of the gaming industry.



    Being a gamestop employee, I take slight offense to this. I seriously doubt in my store, that someone is better qualified to talk about games especially (MMORPGS), then me. Honestly. I only work for the enjoyment of talking about games to others, not the pay. Discount is fine, but the store is on the high price end to begin with.



    Id on't agree with the McD's jab, but for the most part what he said is true. I had a great relationship at the old EB Games I was by. The staff were all gamers, and passionate about it. Then I moved, and the EB by me is staffed with sales monkeys. They don't care about games & players, they care about selling and being 1337. It's not that way in all cases, but in far too many it's true.


    Ya'know, sorry but I have to pipe up about this too. I've worked part time at a Local EBGames for 2+ years now.

    No I'm not a genious and of course I don't know absolutely everything about the gaming world but I take a damned active interest in making sure I know what's going on and what's comming up. I go 150% of the way for my clients and I've worked my ass off to build a really strong customer base over this time.

    I love gaming, I love gamers and I've done my best to make all of my customers as best aware as possible, I really don't know what else people could expect from clerks who barely make min. wage and get treated like crap all day long.

    If you both want to be so ignorant and generalize people like that, fine go right ahead but I've met alot of the guys and girls that work in the other EBGame shops in my city and I have to say that around 90% of them are just as passionate about the job as I am.

  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489



    Originally posted by shae

     

    Ya'know, sorry but I have to pipe up about this too. I've worked part time at a Local EBGames for 2+ years now.

    No I'm not a genious and of course I don't know absolutely everything about the gaming world but I take a damned active interest in making sure I know what's going on and what's comming up. I go 150% of the way for my clients and I've worked my ass off to build a really strong customer base over this time.

    I love gaming, I love gamers and I've done my best to make all of my customers as best aware as possible, I really don't know what else people could expect from clerks who barely make min. wage and get treated like crap all day long.

    If you both want to be so ignorant and generalize people like that, fine go right ahead but I've met alot of the guys and girls that work in the other EBGame shops in my city and I have to say that around 90% of them are just as passionate about the job as I am.




    ig·no·rance
    the state or fact of being ignorant; lack of knowledge, learning, information, etc.

     

    I have knowledge from YEARS of personal experience.

    What part of "I had a great relationship at the old EB Games I was by. The staff were all gamers, and passionate about it." do you not get? Our bad experiences are just that, EXPERIENCES. Is it the case all of the time? HECK no, but it has been for myself and many people I know. You may not like it, but there's NOTHING ignorant about it.

    I miss my old EB crew. I used to buy all of my games there. They eraned my loyalty with honesty, helpfulness, knowledge and great attitude. I sent them dozens of customers, and one is even in our clan. He agrees with what I've said. It's all to common to find those selling games not caring about the games.

    I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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