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WANTED: MMORPGs that have no elves, magic or dwarves etc.
Deusestsolis
Member Posts: 4
I'm frankly sick of it all, the only MMO that I have played without one or all of these things has been Star Wars Galaxies, which was mediocre at first then turned into garbage. I would mention Phantasy Star Universe, but if you play/have played it you would know that it's about 1/30 of an MMORPG for 2/3 the price so it's not nearly as "massive" as the price , stay away from it. Back to the topic at hand, what is it with all of these lord of the rings rip-offs (or wherever it all came from)? Do they think that just because WoW and EQ have been so succesful that this is the only type of MMO people will play? All of the upcoming MMO's that I have seen, Vangaurd, Warhammer, LOTR.... etc. are all the same game in different packages. When are some decent MMO's coming out without all the stupid wizard and dragon themes? Am I the only one with this opinion?
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You hit the nail on the head, Deusestsolis. You and I would play something different but that is only two potential subscribers compared to millions of potential subscribers who want to be told what to think and do, and dream of playing an elf, or short of that, a dwarf.
I'm thinking of trying EVE, but honestly if I haven't already then I'm thinking it must not be too great. Unless the mainstream is now truly as braindead in video games as movies and music and ignores all intelligent concepts. I played Planetside a long time ago, and honestly I'm suprised to see that it's still functional. Huxley looks interesting, and possibly Stargate and Startrek even though I'm completely unfamiliar with their shows. I have not heard of APB, Face of Mankind, or Tabula Rasa, but the rest listed are either free (mediocre-horrible), old, plainly suck, or all three. I am going to check out those games I haven't heard of, though.
Are any of these games going to be as well-funded and developed as the dragonwizard games on the horizon? And if you or anybody else could tell me what "APB" stands for, I'd appreciate it.
don't forget the City Of games
The OP doesn't want anything with magic, so AoC is out. The only sci-fi game worth playing would be Anarchy Online. EvE would be next. And that's about it.
By your logic in this statement I would stay away from Eve. It requires some form of intelligence.
Eve is #1 game on MMORPG.com.
I'd say eve too.
I've been playing it for quite a while now and it doesnt bore you if you find the right corp etc to get in with.
The graphics are amazing and the new additions coming out at the moment means that you wont be too left behind with whats what.
Oh and be careful, eve is addictive, it ruins peoples social lives
The OP doesn't want anything with magic, so AoC is out. The only sci-fi game worth playing would be Anarchy Online. EvE would be next. And that's about it.
Unless I'm mistaken, what hes sick of is all the bloody LOTR ripoffs. He also specifically mentioned wizards and dragons. AoC embodies none of these.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
1. Anarchy Online
2. Asheron's Call(does this have the traditional fantasy elements I'm not sure)
3. DDO(only played 5 mins of this so not sure on this either)
4. CoH/CoV- Superhero based
5. EvE Online- Sci Fi
6. The Matrix Online
7. Roma Victor
8. Planetside
9. Second life
10. SWG
11. World War 2 Online
12. FFXI(Not played but I don't remember it having elves and dwarves in the conventional ff)
13. Auto Assault
14. Spacecowboy
Could be mistaken on a couple but it does surprise me as much as perhaps many others the number of non-traditional fantasy mmorpgs there are mentioned on the left.
It does have A VERY GOOD pvp endgame with a complex skill system to work out for a good build.
The only reason its not talked about as much as some of these other supposed MMORPG's is because the developers trid to do something different and not just CASH IN on an already stale idea (as you have noticed). Yes its still got some stuff to be fixed (as has any new game) but its definatle yworth checking out.
Especially if you are seeking something different as you have mentioned.
Link below for trial.
WHAT IS AUTO ASSAULT?
AUTO ASSAULT 14 DAY TRIAL
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"It is the nature of herds that they flock to where there are more of the same not more quality."
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I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
1. Anarchy Online
2. Asheron's Call(does this have the traditional fantasy elements I'm not sure)
3. DDO(only played 5 mins of this so not sure on this either)
4. CoH/CoV- Superhero based
5. EvE Online- Sci Fi
6. The Matrix Online
7. Roma Victor
8. Planetside
9. Second life
10. SWG
11. World War 2 Online
12. FFXI(Not played but I don't remember it having elves and dwarves in the conventional ff)
13. Auto Assault
14. Spacecowboy
Could
be mistaken on a couple but it does surprise me as much as perhaps many
others the number of non-traditional fantasy mmorpgs there are
mentioned on the left.
Asheron's Call is not traditional fantasy. It does not have elves, orcs, gnomes, or any other typical fantasy races. I'll explain some of the back story for you:
When we first arrived on the island of Dereth, we were amazed at the mysteries and works of the Empyrean peoples who were here before us. One could not help but think that perhaps they were gods when one first saw one of their titanic Golem servants or the enchanted Skytowers that were once used by the Advocates. As time has passed, though, we have discovered that they too felt love and pain. They too were capable of tremendous self-sacrifice and monstrous selfishness. Some were heroes, others villains. We have discovered that we and the Empyreans are more alike than we could have possibly imagined.
The races of the planet we now live on are broadly termed the Empyrean, as we're called human. Their average lifespan was 1000 years.
The Falatacot and Dericost are the two peoples who are first mentioned. There is evidence that Dereth (called Killiakta by the Dericost and Ireth Lassel by the Yalain - as in Tolkien, there are many overlapping place names) was originally Falatacot land. Dericost existed on a vast continent to the southeast. I've stated previously that Dereth, the playable bounds of AC, is like Iceland floating alone in the Atlantic. It's important geography, but tiny compared with the lands many of the texts mention. The Falatacot were driven south and east by a mini-ice age, and came in contact with the Dericost.
The sovereign who sat upon the Ice Throne of Dericost apparently wanted the power the Falatacot held, for they were allowed the kingdom. The origin and fate of the Falatacot are unknown. They are known to have been seers of some power, gaining visions of the future through ecstatic blood rituals. No oracles other than those of the Falatacot have been mentioned in the histories; perhaps the talent lay only within their bloodlines. The most powerful spellcasters among them were women; thus the uncomplimentary epithet "witches."
Dericost was a mighty power, ruled from the high and frigid Plateau of Gelid in the north of the continent. It waxed further through black arts. Their nobility had an unfortunate tendency to turn themselves into immortal undead. There were two factions among the Dericost undead; the Winds From Darkness and the Lords of the World. The difference between those factions is open to debate at this point. Collectively, all the undead nobles of Dericost were called the Old Lords by the commoners they ruled.
Dericost invaded two neighboring realms, the Empire of Yalain and the Kingdom of Haebrous. This is the earliest known reference to these powers in the histories. Haebrous' location is undefined; Yalain is pretty clearly stated to be based on an archipelago south of the continent which was home to the Dericost. Among the islands of this archipelago was Knorr, upon which a great Lyceum (school of magic) was built.
Details on this war are sketchy. It is known that Dericost lost, and Yalain continued and prospered. Haebrous' fate is undefined, though later references to the Emperor of Yalain being "Regent of the Shattered Throne of Haebrous" imply that between the Dericost and Shadow wars, the kingdom fell or was broken apart.
The Yalain, and to a lesser extent Haebrous, are referred to as the High Empyrean cultures. When the common person thinks of Dereth's past, he or she pictures the glittering cities of the Seaborne Empire. Even the mightiest cities of Ispar are but small and dirty reflections of Yalain's least, and our magic, to theirs, is little more than the dabbling of children.
But, following a meteorological phenomenon called the Black Rains (the name alone is known) a shadow fell upon the glades of the north, in the Yalain-occupied Dericost Marches. A great darkness arose, and the children began to disappear. Lord Atlan, noble of Knorr, was sent north with a great army. Only one returned, her mind broken by the experience. Through the gibbering and weeping of this girl, the Yalain first heard of the entity they would call Bael'Zharon, "Slayer of Hope." A council of the five most learned mages in the land was convened to advise the Yalaini Emperor.
They spent hundreds of years fighting a losing war against the Shadows. They themselves did not know where the Shadows came from, but they knew too well what had sparked this upwelling of darkness and madness. At the last, as their people were slain or absorbed, a young mage named Asheron hatched a dangerous plan, drawing on the mostly-forgotten writings of an earlier mage. The Council and he wove a trap of planar magic and enchanted crystal, and in this, Bael'Zharon was confined. This triggered a cataclysm, and all the members of the Council were killed. Asheron, somehow, survived.
After the Shadow War, Asheron continued to experiment with planar magic, and refined it to the point that he could cast portals to any destination he pleased. Sometime during this period, the Gelidite cult fled for Killiakta. They were the descendants of the nobility of Gelid, exiled and resettled in the south by Imperial Decree. They thought that building the city of Frore would trigger the fulfillment of an old Falatacot prophesy about the "Fourth Sending." This, they assumed (and you know what they say about assumptions), would freeze the world, killing all but their cold-acclimated selves. Then they would return to their ancient homeland in Gelid. They encountered the remnants of Dericost nobility in Killiakta, and, spurning them, turned inwards.
Not satisfied with crossing his own world, Asheron strove to cast portals to others, and he and his adepts explored them. But at some point, a mistake was made. From one of those worlds, the Olthoi swarmed into this world, as ants when their colony is kicked. The Empyrean could not resist them, and no clever plan of entrapment could be discovered. So Asheron sent his people... elsewhere.
The might of his spell caused grievous damage to the planes; random portals began to open, all over the universe, all tied here. Many fierce creatures(Tumeroks, Lugians, etc.) fell through these in numbers, until the only larger forms of native life that remained were the Gromnies. Possibly the deadliest of these new arrivals was humanity, who were quickly enslaved by the Olthoi.
---------To explain some of the creatures you'll find in Dereth (Dereth being a small island on Auberean, which circles Au, the sun)
Virindi: Energy-based lifeforms that form crystalized forms in the physical world, often the crystal appears to move in liquid-like tentacles. The Virindi originate from the Singularity, an known point in Portal Space (the space between dimensional places of existence) and share a hive mind governed by the Quiddity.
Shadows: The result of the Kemeroi (Beings whom existed before the universe began, associated as the opposition to the Old Ones, or the Light - the Kemeroi are known are best described as conscious void. The Kemeroi were eventually sealed within Auberean (which from my study of the lore, appears to be the battleground for the Light/Darkness, as well as the center of the universe, perhaps where the Big Bang's original location was. The Old Ones (worshipped by the Falatacot, an ancient Empyrean culture) trapped one, or them there using the ley lines, or mana rivers under the surface of the planet. Fast-forward an incredibly long amount of time....and you have Ilservian Palacost, who was transformed in Bael'Zharon by the Kemeroi.
The lore of the Isparian homeworld, Ispar can be found here:
http://ac.warcry.com/index.php?content=lore/ispar/contentsFor the rest of the lore, go here:
http://ac.warcry.com/index.php?content=lore/loreindex
What I've given you is a extremely brief overview, as I didn't touch on the Falatacot blood rituals, Geraine, Dark Sisters, Bur, and the rest of the 40,000 years of history we've uncovered so far. Truly, Asheron's Call lore could fill books.
See I wasn't sure as I played Asheron's Call 2 and it had an array of original mobs, was really quite a refreshing game. Though saying this I know you Asheron's Call fans curse any mention of Asheron's Call 2.
The OP doesn't want anything with magic, so AoC is out. The only sci-fi game worth playing would be Anarchy Online. EvE would be next. And that's about it.
Unless I'm mistaken, what hes sick of is all the bloody LOTR ripoffs. He also specifically mentioned wizards and dragons. AoC embodies none of these.
He also says no magic in the titile post: "WANTED: MMORPGs that have no elves, magic or dwarves etc."
Which is why I stated AoC may not be for him. Trust me, I know what AoC has, I been waiting right along with ya
i'd say AO but the abilities in AO are very 'magic feeling' if you catch my drift. I mean... ok I'm healing using nanites but it still looks/feels like some guy casting 'cure x wounds'
So hmm lets see... no magic blah blah
EVE
PlanetSide
Auto Assault
Darkspace
Jumpgate
There are a few others. Take a gander at the game list and choose pretty much any game that is not listed as fantasy.
"A ship-of-war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell
going to have to try it sometime with the free trial