I'm reading a lot of gripes about EvE Online even being submitted for the PvE category. Most of those people say that it has great PvP but lousey PvE.
There is one simple thing that people need to remember: For every person that is a pieRATe, a 0.0'r, an anti-pirate or just likes to shoot other people, there are 40-50 that have absolutely 0 interest in PvP and are playing EvE. The beauty of the entire game is that you are free to do as you pretty much wish, as long as you are willing to accept the ramnifications of those actions.
We have miners, we have builders, we have pirates, we have PvPers, we have NPCers, we have anti-pirates, we have salvagers. And we have many in each category and most drift between those basic goals. We have people that never leave their stations, we have people that can't enter civilized space becaause of the crimes they have committed. And we have all steps in between. And now the 4 major societies in the EvE universe are preparing to go to war, meaning more mayhem and destruction.
I am what you would call a Carebear in EvE. I exclusively mine and PvE. I have never fired a shot at another player (though I have participated in a stand off between two groups). I have absolutely NO interest in PvP.
EvE got my vote straight across the board because it is the only game since NWN released 5 1/2 years ago that has kept my interest for more than 2 weeks. That to me is a lot more worthy voting category than whether something's "content" is up to your opinion of good enough.
Originally posted by Roin That's all your opinion though. You may think they are "shit" as you put it but other people do like them. Who are you to pass judgement on what they like? Are you special? Are you some authority on music? Thought not, so basically you need to STFU. If that's his opinion on the the Awards. Then he is entitled to speak it.
Having been a professional musicia, pplaying classical, jazz, and rock/pop, yes, I am, and I know there is no 'talent' behind many of the popular groups, they are marketed well to the mindless masses, just as WoW is marketed to the people who jumped into Diablo 2's ability to grind forever because of the chance of a random item generating and being good.
Originally posted by -Rodriguez- Originally posted by Roin That's all your opinion though. You may think they are "shit" as you put it but other people do like them. Who are you to pass judgement on what they like? Are you special? Are you some authority on music? Thought not, so basically you need to STFU. If that's his opinion on the the Awards. Then he is entitled to speak it.
Haha omg I just love people that say "He is entitled for his oppinion so STFU !!!!!11". Thats so sickening, its hard to describe it with words.
The irony of such comments tend to give me tetanus.
Newsflash for the people who are crying because people join just to vote. Someone who joins a community, just to vote is still *gasp* a member of the community. I made this account only to vote, so what? that doesn't negate that I've used the site for months. I'd tell the WoW fanboys to learn to think, but if they could think, they wouldn't be paying to play 'grind the plex', 'ninjaloot', or 'let's camp BG all day'.;)
Originally posted by Distortion0 I think we should at least use the top three canidates. This "EVE or WoW" stuff is crap.
So that the 3rd one can end up with 10% of the votes and do nothing, much like a 3rd party in say, the Us government?
I voted last year, for Eve cause i love the game. I am currently playing a beta which I am not allowed to speak of. But seriously, do you guys really expect an objective opinion here? The people voting here don't play every single one of these games, they play thier favorite game. And if more people are voting for Eve, that says one thing to me....Eve has something that people really like. The votes speak for themselves. BTW, Eve has my votes for Pve...the other games I've seen are simply grindade with no innovation.
I have only logged into my MMORPG.com account three times. The last two times were to log in and vote for my favorite MMO, EVE. The first time was when I logged in to get my EVE trial key. That trial turned into years of fun with the first MMO that I have ever been truly happy with (and I have played several).
I am posting here to give credit to EVE's PvE experience. Quite frankly, there are many, many casual gamers in the EVE universe, although they're probably quite a bit smarter than WOW's casual players (perhaps even WOW's hardcore players for that matter, but I would be rude to generalize). I take part in some of the hardcore aspects, but I also spend a lot of casual time in Empire space, running missions, which in most cases are PvE. I find the PvE experience in EVE to be very consistent with the backstory (which is itself an accomplishment never before seen in online science fiction), and I find the PvE experience very rewarding.
I could have said all of that in one or two sentences, but I figured I would blather on for a bit and make up for the many years that I haven't been posting here. I probably won't read your replies, so flame away.
If EVE continues to be nominated and win categories where they suffer problems, they'll take that as a sign that there are no problems with EVE as it stands. Then all your fees will go toward fixes and enhancements for things you do not need, negleting those things you do need.
One of these days, a game that is far worse than EVE Online will be able to rally far more voters than you, and it will start winning awards EVE should win.
If EVE can play the fansites like they have played this one, then anyone else can do the same thing. Soon, perhaps very soon, awards that should rightfully go to EVE will go to games that suck far worse than EVE, and they will be the ones who put up the full page ads with the MMORPG.com badges.
__________________________ "Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it." --Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints." --Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls." --Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
Originally posted by Beatnik59 Laugh it up, EVEangenlists... If EVE continues to be nominated and win categories where they suffer problems, they'll take that as a sign that there are no problems with EVE as it stands.
I doubt that will happen... The CCP guys have a vision of where things are going and I seriously hope that no awards or whinage will ever change this.
Originally posted by Beatnik59 One of these days, a game that is far worse than EVE Online will be able to rally far more voters than you, and it will start winning awards EVE should win.... Soon, perhaps very soon, awards that should rightfully go to EVE will go to games that suck far worse than EVE
There is no such thing as an "award that should rightfully go to EVE" and I doubt that a game that sucks could rally the fans so much that they are willing to out vote everything else.
This awards thread along with this makes at least one thing clear. That CCP has created a community that Blizzard and Sony and the others have not come close to being able to develope. Based on shear numbers, WoW takes the cake. EVE shouldn't even be in the finals if the other games bases showed similar support for the game they spend their time and money on, and yet they are a finalist. It is a large blemish on the other companies that they can not make comparable showing in the poll.
(One person voting multiple times under different accounts is a moot point for all the games attempting to be represented with this poll as a fan in any of the games can do it. Because games other than EVE have a larger subscription base, you would expect more of these kinds of things occur for those games. Making EVE fall behind even farther in the poll, which has not occurred.)
Even if EVE loses, the other companies should be asking themselves why CCP was able to come up with this kind of showing in the first place. Sure Blizzard and Sony have the large subscription base, but that base doesn't seem to care about the game they play.
edit: Or maybe Blizzard and Sony just don't let their subscribers know that this kind of poll is going on. Which doesn't make much sense, because it is free publicity (and what kind of company would turn that down?).
EvE has PvE? I've been remiss for so long! As for it not being a strategy game, or a game of witts. I can direct you to the Alliance and Corporation forum where people are using confucian philosophy to break the will of other Corporations and alliances breaking down their funds, and minds until they can get a spy to start a civil war. Now that's strategy.
I actualy joined this site today mainly beacuse of a post to another forum about the readers choice awards. When I looked and saw the 2 contenders and the fact that they appear to be even in all respects I kinda though that some "new blood" would help this process. The big glaring things were things like the graphics ratings etc. EVE online is a nice game for many things (ie the economy and the business end etc) but one thing it does not do well in is graphics. Yes they are nice, but they certainly aren't original or even imaginative. I was very surprised to see them in the best graphics category. Anyhow this is obviously isn't honest voting or the people who play eve have never played any other games and so have no comparison (which I find hard to believe hehe) .
Anyhow so now I come to vote as well to help remove games from categories they have no bussiness being in. (I also hate WoW hehe but I think they do good in the realm of graphics) It looks to me like a lot of people are just blindely voting cause they want their game to win cause its fun and they are not taking into account its shortcomings
Originally posted by PB&J EVE is one of the finalists for PvE? Give me a break. EVE's PvE is absoultey horrible. Your awards are being completely trashed by a link on the EVE forums telling their fans to come over here and vote.
I'm suprised the most anticipated game cateogry didn't have a selction for "EVE: Upcoming, but as of yet unannounced, expansion"
I voted for all the games that weren't EVE just so it doesn't win. I think WoW sucks for the most part as well but just voted for it so EVE wouldn't win.
Agreed.... Eve and WOW..hmm.. so overrated game... Most of players of those game have tons of time to vote... I'd played both games for few months.. Nothing really really special about that... Trust me, next year, gonna be same all over again... I dont even trust the game rating on this site anymore..
Originally posted by b14tch Agreed.... Eve and WOW..hmm.. so overrated game... Most of players of those game have tons of time to vote... I'd played both games for few months.. Nothing really really special about that... Trust me, next year, gonna be same all over again... I dont even trust the game rating on this site anymore..
I kinda got stuck at the "which 2 of these games did you like in 2006" they needed to add a none of the above or something for a lot of this stuff.
In that case it was neither since like many I played it till i hit the level cap and left (just after the battlegrounds were introduced)
Anyhow Maybe if we get more involved they wont be in the rankings anymore although by sheer subscriber level WoW can and possibly will win everytime I suppose , but honestly looking at it most people stay with WoW or have played WoW for one reason or another if there is something better I suppose we have to take the time to vote for it hehe
Originally posted by ummax Yes they are nice, but they certainly aren't original or even imaginative. I was very surprised to see them in the best graphics category. Anyhow this is obviously isn't honest voting or the people who play eve have never played any other games and so have no comparison (which I find hard to believe hehe) . Anyhow so now I come to vote as well to help remove games from categories they have no bussiness being in. (I also hate WoW hehe but I think they do good in the realm of graphics) It looks to me like a lot of people are just blindely voting cause they want their game to win cause its fun and they are not taking into account its shortcomings
So you say the graphics of eve are bad but wow is good. I say the graphic in eve is very good but wow was outdated before it even hit the stores.
Now, who is blindly Voting? You? Me? All categorys are highly subjective but apparently only a minority of this forum wants to accept this and blames others of "cheating" in the votes.
I didnt come to enter a debate with you I pointed out that there are a lot of games out there with better graphics and I can't for the life of me figure out how a game with outdated old graphics got onto a readers choice awards nor do I wish to speculate on why it did either....
I also didn't come here to be flamed or accused of stuff I didn't say!
For the record I would like to vote for none of these because there is MUCH better out there it simply doesn't give me the option I can only choose from the two listed which in my opinion neither of them diserve the best graphics award category period. That is the point ....
Wow will win a lot of these, but not because it deserves to. Only because the rest of the market is pretty much pure trash. When the hell are MMO developers gonna make an MMO with the gameplay of wow combined with compelling content and good crafting? Is that really too much to ask for?
Originally posted by ummax I didnt come to enter a debate with you I pointed out that there are a lot of games out there with better graphics and I can't for the life of me figure out how a game with outdated old graphics got onto a readers choice awards nor do I wish to speculate on why it did either....
EVE is starting to show its age, but it still is a gorgeous game- watching a battle in EVE or flying through some of the beautiful environments still gives me tingles every time, and there isn't another game that can claim that. However high tech the engine is, I honestly can't see myself getting tingles over elves and wizards.
I expect there were more deserving games to make it in tot hat category, though- how WoW got in there was a joke.
Ok make a cuppa tea youll be here a while. BTW this is a Pro WoW post.
I played EVE once... over an hour into the tutorial I was lost and confused, a very hard game to get into which is why it has such low player figures I guess, but a friend of mine plays and he loves it but for me I want to play a game not listen to a VERY annoying voice for 2 hours.
MMORPG.com is 90% wow haters we all know that but Im sure a good number of the haters havent even played the game which is sad.
Wow PVE
Wow has great PvE from 1-60 (the first time round) you can do it solo or group and believe me it much better in a group, and to the guys who say "I got to 60 in 2 weeks", can I ask do you have a job/school? u must of played for 15 hours a day 7 days a weeks and just grinded mobs.. sounds like u botted the whole thing, took me about 3.5 months form 1-60 my first time around playing about 20 hours a week.
Yes End game PvE is a bore but most playersguilds bring it upon themselves. As soon a new dungeon is opened they dont spend the time to learn how to kill the bosses etc they go straight to Google and get a guide of how to do it, thus taking all the fun out of the whole experience.
WoW PvP
Wow also has the best PvP of any MMORPG Ive ever played And I have played many, Guild wars (call that PvP?).
But PvP is what you make it, currently my alliance guild have what we call "30 minute rumbles" with a horde guild on our server, We go to a secluded area of the game world near a grave-yard and just fight it out for 30mins none stop, the horde leader and alliance leader have a mod called "kill count" that counts how many times each side has lost a player and after the fight we see who has won, its great fun, both sides are mic'd up so we can shout, swear etc. Beats the hell out of running BWL for the 30th time, what other game can you see 80 players battling it out?
We also raid horde capital citys atleast once a week and with the new patch we can kill vendors, quest gives and just simply wipe the whole city out while the horde players and town guards try to stop us. TOP FUN!
WoW PvP and controlling the character in general is so fluid it a joy, you can jump over obstacles, hide behind objects, go swimming etc. Ive not seen this any other MMO do this, guildwarz wins the "WTB jump button" and the omg another invisible wall award.
WoW GFX
So much bashing of wow gfx going on, you have to remember art direction as well as gfx, wow never was designed to have realistic graphics it when for the cartoonanim look. Where as games like EVE, GW, EQ went more for realistic graphics, but ask your self this, In 3 years which graphics will look more dated?
Wow community
Many here say wow community....full of kids, with 7 million players there will be some kids, but get your self into a guild and get communicating, nothing like login on and getting a whisper from a guild member who wants a hand with a quest or theres a space in a Raid that needs filling. As with PvP its down to you to get active in the community.
Yes WoW can be classed as a simple/dumb down game, but its still the only Pickup'n'Play MMORPG out there, but If you enjoy sitting through 2 hours tutorials wondering around towns cus you dont know what to do, then go ahead and enjoy EVE and EQ.
Seriously this "voting" is a joke. I don't know who made up the rules for this but you guys need to sit down and rethink them. Horrible, just horrible!
First off, how can EVE Online, which came out in 2003, be even in the run for best graphics of 2006? If your going to have the best graphics of '06 then it should be for games that came out in '06, or games that had new graphics added or redon to make them better. You should have just called it best graphics of all time, and leave out the damn year.
Second, the fact the almost all the choices for all your questions involved either Eve Online or WoW is screwed up. You fan boys seriously need to play other games. Who made up the rules for these questions, and made the decision that all the questions will involve answering Eve Online or WoW.
Third, you should have had the "trash can" option for all the questions like you did for the one. I only voted on one question and the was the one for Most Anticipated, Star Trek Online. All the other questions and answers were garbage, which is where they belong.
This voting this year is a stright dissappointment to all the other games out there who are not Eve Online and WoW. Again I will say it, HORRIBLE, just HORRIBLE!
Originally posted by PB&J EVE is one of the finalists for PvE? Give me a break. EVE's PvE is absoultey horrible. Your awards are being completely trashed by a link on the EVE forums telling their fans to come over here and vote.
I'm suprised the most anticipated game cateogry didn't have a selction for "EVE: Upcoming, but as of yet unannounced, expansion"
I voted for all the games that weren't EVE just so it doesn't win. I think WoW sucks for the most part as well but just voted for it so EVE wouldn't win.
So you are actualy saying to be just as stupid as those that had voted for EVE pve and i don't mean this with disrespect but really you are doing the same thing, so next time be fare to yourself before judging others.
I could not cast any vote on EVE as i have 0 exp in that game and from the choises that where giving by all of use and summed up into the Finalist votes i had not much choise then mostly cast my voice upon WOW wich i felt was fair.
Originally posted by BronxChulo Seriously this "voting" is a joke. I don't know who made up the rules for this but you guys need to sit down and rethink them. Horrible, just horrible! They did an open nomination process this year and took any game that got over 10% of the vote in its category in the finals. The results were rather focused, with EVE and World of Warcraft being up for most every award. Check out the finalists and cast your votes. Here are our seven categories:
Favorite Graphics: Won last year by EVE Online, this category was open to all games on the market, but only two survived the first round of voting. Favorite PvE: World of Warcraft was selected by our readers last year as their Favorite PvE Experience. Do they have what it takes to retain the crown? This category, again, was open to all games in commercial service, but again, only two made it to the finals. Favorite PvP: EVE Online was your favorite PvP experience last year. Did a year change anything? Once again, two made it to the last round.. Favorite Story: The Saga of Ryzom pulled off an upset victory last year. Now, with the Ryzom Ring can they retain their crown as the favorite world/role-playing/backstory of any released MMORPG on our list? Three games challenge. Most Anticipated: Open to all games that have yet to launch, last year's winner Dungeons and Dragons Online has hit the market. Who will take home the crown this year? An amazing six games will duke it out. Favorite New Game: This category is from a list of games that launched to commercial service in 2006 and is the only new category in this year's awards. Who, if anyone, deserves the crown? Favorite Game: Finally, from among those games on the market, what is your favorite MMORPG? Last year, the voters said EVE. Will it be them or a challenger with the trophy?Begin voting by clicking here.
First off, how can EVE Online, which came out in 2003, be even in the run for best graphics of 2006? If your going to have the best graphics of '06 then it should be for games that came out in '06, or games that had new graphics added or redon to make them better. You should have just called it best graphics of all time, and leave out the damn year. This only shows that from the game released this year there was nothing that topped the games that people are still playing otherwise don't you think we would have had other games in the list ????
Second, the fact the almost all the choices for all your questions involved either Eve Online or WoW is screwed up. You fan boys seriously need to play other games. Who made up the rules for these questions, and made the decision that all the questions will involve answering Eve Online or WoW. These questions are i think made up from what was collected on semi final rounds again the opinions of the majority.
Third, you should have had the "trash can" option for all the questions like you did for the one. I only voted on one question and the was the one for Most Anticipated, Star Trek Online. All the other questions and answers were garbage, which is where they belong. Maybe next time bring your friends from the games you socalled enjoy more even thou i havn't read one single comment in your text saying wich games these are, also i feel nobody is forcing you to cast your vote, maybe you didn't know but you have the freedom to vote or not to vote thats all up to you, for me if i didn't find anything intresting to vote for i just simply would not vote.
This voting this year is a stright dissappointment to all the other games out there who are not Eve Online and WoW. Again I will say it, HORRIBLE, just HORRIBLE!, What other games name a few please, i don't think that everyone that plays wow is instantly a wowfanboy/girl, i just hope that gamedevelops look at this outcome with shame because in a way you are right and all this is horrible just for the fact nothing came along in gaming better and with a hugher crowed then the Finalist did.
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There is one simple thing that people need to remember: For every person that is a pieRATe, a 0.0'r, an anti-pirate or just likes to shoot other people, there are 40-50 that have absolutely 0 interest in PvP and are playing EvE. The beauty of the entire game is that you are free to do as you pretty much wish, as long as you are willing to accept the ramnifications of those actions.
We have miners, we have builders, we have pirates, we have PvPers, we have NPCers, we have anti-pirates, we have salvagers. And we have many in each category and most drift between those basic goals. We have people that never leave their stations, we have people that can't enter civilized space becaause of the crimes they have committed. And we have all steps in between. And now the 4 major societies in the EvE universe are preparing to go to war, meaning more mayhem and destruction.
I am what you would call a Carebear in EvE. I exclusively mine and PvE. I have never fired a shot at another player (though I have participated in a stand off between two groups). I have absolutely NO interest in PvP.
EvE got my vote straight across the board because it is the only game since NWN released 5 1/2 years ago that has kept my interest for more than 2 weeks. That to me is a lot more worthy voting category than whether something's "content" is up to your opinion of good enough.
Having been a professional musicia, pplaying classical, jazz, and rock/pop, yes, I am, and I know there is no 'talent' behind many of the popular groups, they are marketed well to the mindless masses, just as WoW is marketed to the people who jumped into Diablo 2's ability to grind forever because of the chance of a random item generating and being good.
Haha omg I just love people that say "He is entitled for his oppinion so STFU !!!!!11". Thats so sickening, its hard to describe it with words.
The irony of such comments tend to give me tetanus.
So that the 3rd one can end up with 10% of the votes and do nothing, much like a 3rd party in say, the Us government?
I am posting here to give credit to EVE's PvE experience. Quite frankly, there are many, many casual gamers in the EVE universe, although they're probably quite a bit smarter than WOW's casual players (perhaps even WOW's hardcore players for that matter, but I would be rude to generalize). I take part in some of the hardcore aspects, but I also spend a lot of casual time in Empire space, running missions, which in most cases are PvE. I find the PvE experience in EVE to be very consistent with the backstory (which is itself an accomplishment never before seen in online science fiction), and I find the PvE experience very rewarding.
I could have said all of that in one or two sentences, but I figured I would blather on for a bit and make up for the many years that I haven't been posting here. I probably won't read your replies, so flame away.
Laugh it up, EVEangenlists...
If EVE continues to be nominated and win categories where they suffer problems, they'll take that as a sign that there are no problems with EVE as it stands. Then all your fees will go toward fixes and enhancements for things you do not need, negleting those things you do need.
One of these days, a game that is far worse than EVE Online will be able to rally far more voters than you, and it will start winning awards EVE should win.
If EVE can play the fansites like they have played this one, then anyone else can do the same thing. Soon, perhaps very soon, awards that should rightfully go to EVE will go to games that suck far worse than EVE, and they will be the ones who put up the full page ads with the MMORPG.com badges.
__________________________
"Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it."
--Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints."
--Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls."
--Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
This awards thread along with this makes at least one thing clear. That CCP has created a community that Blizzard and Sony and the others have not come close to being able to develope. Based on shear numbers, WoW takes the cake. EVE shouldn't even be in the finals if the other games bases showed similar support for the game they spend their time and money on, and yet they are a finalist. It is a large blemish on the other companies that they can not make comparable showing in the poll.
(One person voting multiple times under different accounts is a moot point for all the games attempting to be represented with this poll as a fan in any of the games can do it. Because games other than EVE have a larger subscription base, you would expect more of these kinds of things occur for those games. Making EVE fall behind even farther in the poll, which has not occurred.)
Even if EVE loses, the other companies should be asking themselves why CCP was able to come up with this kind of showing in the first place. Sure Blizzard and Sony have the large subscription base, but that base doesn't seem to care about the game they play.
edit: Or maybe Blizzard and Sony just don't let their subscribers know that this kind of poll is going on. Which doesn't make much sense, because it is free publicity (and what kind of company would turn that down?).
I actualy joined this site today mainly beacuse of a post to another forum about the readers choice awards. When I looked and saw the 2 contenders and the fact that they appear to be even in all respects I kinda though that some "new blood" would help this process. The big glaring things were things like the graphics ratings etc. EVE online is a nice game for many things (ie the economy and the business end etc) but one thing it does not do well in is graphics. Yes they are nice, but they certainly aren't original or even imaginative. I was very surprised to see them in the best graphics category. Anyhow this is obviously isn't honest voting or the people who play eve have never played any other games and so have no comparison (which I find hard to believe hehe) .
Anyhow so now I come to vote as well to help remove games from categories they have no bussiness being in. (I also hate WoW hehe but I think they do good in the realm of graphics) It looks to me like a lot of people are just blindely voting cause they want their game to win cause its fun and they are not taking into account its shortcomings
anyhow bye
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I say the graphic in eve is very good but wow was outdated before it even hit the stores.
Now, who is blindly Voting? You? Me?
All categorys are highly subjective but apparently only a minority of this forum wants to accept this and blames others of "cheating" in the votes.
I didnt come to enter a debate with you I pointed out that there are a lot of games out there with better graphics and I can't for the life of me figure out how a game with outdated old graphics got onto a readers choice awards nor do I wish to speculate on why it did either....
I also didn't come here to be flamed or accused of stuff I didn't say!
For the record I would like to vote for none of these because there is MUCH better out there it simply doesn't give me the option I can only choose from the two listed which in my opinion neither of them diserve the best graphics award category period. That is the point ....
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Eve for the win, and not that children game WOW, where can be lvl 40 in two days.
EVE is starting to show its age, but it still is a gorgeous game- watching a battle in EVE or flying through some of the beautiful environments still gives me tingles every time, and there isn't another game that can claim that. However high tech the engine is, I honestly can't see myself getting tingles over elves and wizards.
I expect there were more deserving games to make it in tot hat category, though- how WoW got in there was a joke.
Ok make a cuppa tea youll be here a while. BTW this is a Pro WoW post.
I played EVE once... over an hour into the tutorial I was lost and confused, a very hard game to get into which is why it has such low player figures I guess, but a friend of mine plays and he loves it but for me I want to play a game not listen to a VERY annoying voice for 2 hours.
MMORPG.com is 90% wow haters we all know that but Im sure a good number of the haters havent even played the game which is sad.
Wow PVE
Wow has great PvE from 1-60 (the first time round) you can do it solo or group and believe me it much better in a group, and to the guys who say "I got to 60 in 2 weeks", can I ask do you have a job/school? u must of played for 15 hours a day 7 days a weeks and just grinded mobs.. sounds like u botted the whole thing, took me about 3.5 months form 1-60 my first time around playing about 20 hours a week.
Yes End game PvE is a bore but most playersguilds bring it upon themselves. As soon a new dungeon is opened they dont spend the time to learn how to kill the bosses etc they go straight to Google and get a guide of how to do it, thus taking all the fun out of the whole experience.
WoW PvP
Wow also has the best PvP of any MMORPG Ive ever played And I have played many, Guild wars (call that PvP?).
But PvP is what you make it, currently my alliance guild have what we call "30 minute rumbles" with a horde guild on our server, We go to a secluded area of the game world near a grave-yard and just fight it out for 30mins none stop, the horde leader and alliance leader have a mod called "kill count" that counts how many times each side has lost a player and after the fight we see who has won, its great fun, both sides are mic'd up so we can shout, swear etc. Beats the hell out of running BWL for the 30th time, what other game can you see 80 players battling it out?
We also raid horde capital citys atleast once a week and with the new patch we can kill vendors, quest gives and just simply wipe the whole city out while the horde players and town guards try to stop us. TOP FUN!
WoW PvP and controlling the character in general is so fluid it a joy, you can jump over obstacles, hide behind objects, go swimming etc. Ive not seen this any other MMO do this, guildwarz wins the "WTB jump button" and the omg another invisible wall award.
WoW GFX
So much bashing of wow gfx going on, you have to remember art direction as well as gfx, wow never was designed to have realistic graphics it when for the cartoonanim look. Where as games like EVE, GW, EQ went more for realistic graphics, but ask your self this, In 3 years which graphics will look more dated?
Wow community
Many here say wow community....full of kids, with 7 million players there will be some kids, but get your self into a guild and get communicating, nothing like login on and getting a whisper from a guild member who wants a hand with a quest or theres a space in a Raid that needs filling. As with PvP its down to you to get active in the community.
Yes WoW can be classed as a simple/dumb down game, but its still the only Pickup'n'Play MMORPG out there, but If you enjoy sitting through 2 hours tutorials wondering around towns cus you dont know what to do, then go ahead and enjoy EVE and EQ.
Wow for president!!
Seriously this "voting" is a joke. I don't know who made up the rules for this but you guys need to sit down and rethink them. Horrible, just horrible!
First off, how can EVE Online, which came out in 2003, be even in the run for best graphics of 2006? If your going to have the best graphics of '06 then it should be for games that came out in '06, or games that had new graphics added or redon to make them better. You should have just called it best graphics of all time, and leave out the damn year.
Second, the fact the almost all the choices for all your questions involved either Eve Online or WoW is screwed up. You fan boys seriously need to play other games. Who made up the rules for these questions, and made the decision that all the questions will involve answering Eve Online or WoW.
Third, you should have had the "trash can" option for all the questions like you did for the one. I only voted on one question and the was the one for Most Anticipated, Star Trek Online. All the other questions and answers were garbage, which is where they belong.
This voting this year is a stright dissappointment to all the other games out there who are not Eve Online and WoW. Again I will say it, HORRIBLE, just HORRIBLE!