Originally posted by mfj85 Here is an example of Everquest in Alpha. And Everquest after launch. Just so people can see the big difference there usually is:
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Originally posted by Kyleran Originally posted by mfj85 Here is an example of Everquest in Alpha. And Everquest after launch. Just so people can see the big difference there usually is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ae-1KuAvMY EQ1 Alpha - November 97 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngsjkavbgkw EQ - Raid in Ntov - 2000 Ofcourse neither are up to date with todays games.
I'm not an EQ player, but I assume EQ launched much earlier than Nov 2000 right? (hate to thinik it was 3 years between alpha and launch) It came out March 16th 1999, so that's a year and a half after launch. If you look at WoW at launch compared to WoW a year and a half later, the graphics are the exact same. I'm pretty sure it's the same with EQ. They didn't start revamping the graphics for at least 2 years after the release.
Point being a "lot" of polishing gets done during alpha and beta, and WAR hasn't even hit beta yet. I think it's safe to say what we're seeing now in the alpha footage isn't close to what we're going to see in the beta footage which won't be close to what we're going to see on release.
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I just watched the game play video and I can see where this game is headed. Multiplayer Supper Mario would have been a better title. What were you guys thinking?
Originally posted by Mhorham I just watched the game play video and I can see where this game is headed. Multiplayer Supper Mario would have been a better title. What were you guys thinking?
If you're talking about sound, then I agree. If you're talking about anything else, I'd have to ask what exactly you were watching?
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For a first glimps seem good to me being an admited DoAC fan. A Gem in the rough a bit od cutting and polish and you have a thing of beauty. as for a WoW kill It dosent matter I am just looking forward to playing in a world that tell now has only existed in my head or the table top. Warhammer FRp and battles have been part of my game time for many years. to walk the world evan just a small part of it makes the game worth the price and sub fee alone. the Fact that mythic is makeing just makes me all the more excited to see it . they did wonders in DoAC with the leason learned there my expetations are high. but not to the point that I think they are incapble of messing it up. they might piss off a lot of folks. cant wait for beta and the chance to see it I have hope but I am a bit leary of games based on the old standbys DDO taught me that harsh lesson. just cause its great PnP or table top dosent mean some tard with a vision cant screw it up.
People are always gonna be haters, there are proffessional trolls on the web whose only joy in life is trying to be as contrary as possible, as we have seen in this thread... Trolls live on.
As for the video's, it's good stuff, they are really kewl for showing this stuff, and even better for the "new" video, which jsut put to shame most of the complainers comments.
It's alpha, alpha isn't about "looking good" it's about making sure X, Y, and Z basics function as intended, polish is for the end.
Think of it this way, do you really think a broadway play look good during it's first rehearsal's? During castign calls? That's what this is, wait for the launch, wait for the Gold Plate when the curtain raises and the play REALLY begins.
True it is too early to judge. I don't know why they'd throw the movie out there if it has no bearing on what we are gonna see later on but whatever. To me the movie looked like a modern day Gauntlet. But I don't want to judge the game just yet. I will judge the movie though and imo it's 100% craptastic.
From the looks of the charecter models there using place keeper models. Alot of the combat animations look like place keepers. Very fluid though. Im very optomistic that WAR will have a excelent animation systems.
As a whole i enjoyed the video, the spell effects made me happy and I thought the animations felt like they where very strong. I would like to see more blood in there tho.
Everyone needs to stop complaining about the gameplay clip. This is a very early clip (The game is only in Alpha testing!). For a clip this early it looks pretty good.
The people who are complaining about the video want to much and want it to be perfect in the alpha testing. Not very smart.
They already had a working engine and developer tools ready to use when they started the project. They can make use of a very rich and detailed lore and artwork-selection.
Even being in alpha-stage - this game is supposed to launch in one years time. In its current state, as seen in the footage, some people are concerned how this game will turn out. There is no reason for defending Mythic - the criticism its only meant to show them potential weaknesses so they can make a better game.
needs more "umph!" to the hits and needs "ouch" when getting hit. It looked like they were hitting each other but until they fall and die, the hits aren't really doing any impact. Take Lineage2 where each hit you do upon someone or each hit you take, you can visually see the characters affected by it.
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Here is an example of Everquest in Alpha. And Everquest after launch. Just so people can see the big difference there usually is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ae-1KuAvMY EQ1 Alpha - November 97
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngsjkavbgkw EQ - Raid in Ntov - 2000
Ofcourse neither are up to date with todays games.
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It came out March 16th 1999, so that's a year and a half after launch. If you look at WoW at launch compared to WoW a year and a half later, the graphics are the exact same. I'm pretty sure it's the same with EQ. They didn't start revamping the graphics for at least 2 years after the release.
Point being a "lot" of polishing gets done during alpha and beta, and WAR hasn't even hit beta yet. I think it's safe to say what we're seeing now in the alpha footage isn't close to what we're going to see in the beta footage which won't be close to what we're going to see on release.
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I just watched the game play video and I can see where this game is headed. Multiplayer Supper Mario would have been a better title. What were you guys thinking?
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Not the best thing I've seen but, it is early days. yes i know i am being optimistic but ahhh
Looking good!
People are always gonna be haters, there are proffessional trolls on the web whose only joy in life is trying to be as contrary as possible, as we have seen in this thread... Trolls live on.
As for the video's, it's good stuff, they are really kewl for showing this stuff, and even better for the "new" video, which jsut put to shame most of the complainers comments.
It's alpha, alpha isn't about "looking good" it's about making sure X, Y, and Z basics function as intended, polish is for the end.
Think of it this way, do you really think a broadway play look good during it's first rehearsal's? During castign calls? That's what this is, wait for the launch, wait for the Gold Plate when the curtain raises and the play REALLY begins.
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Everyone needs to stop complaining about the gameplay clip. This is a very early clip (The game is only in Alpha testing!). For a clip this early it looks pretty good.
The people who are complaining about the video want to much and want it to be perfect in the alpha testing. Not very smart.
They can make use of a very rich and detailed lore and artwork-selection.
Even being in alpha-stage - this game is supposed to launch in one years time. In its current state, as seen in the footage, some people are concerned how this game will turn out. There is no reason for defending Mythic - the criticism its only meant to show them potential weaknesses so they can make a better game.