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What should RvR footage look like?

People have been flaming the video for weeks now. "Looks boringz!" I would just like to know what people would like to see the video.

Aside from the lack Prince of Persia stlye leaping off walls, I think it looked pretty good. Yeah, the sound effects were pretty alpha quality, BUT IT'S ALPHA! I personally liked how when a character attack another player an effect or knock-down kicked in so it actually looked like the character was hit. Alot of people critized that shinny effects appeared when a hammerer swung but for said people, I would like you to place your neighbor in metal armor and hit him with a hammer. If you aren't a wimp, then there should be sparks! The light clean up helped alot.

But we weren't really getting a look at anything but the animations. We got no look at the UI because it was removed. We didn't know if the player was questing or ganking. You couldn't tell he was fighting players if you didn't read the text(a lot of people didn't. IE 'OMGX HES GRINDING!!!). What was wrong with the animations that made it a horrible video?

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  • JoriJori Member Posts: 130
    I believe people were upset with the stiff character animation and that it would probably carry all the way to release. Personally I saw nothing wrong with the video. As for all the other complaints(sounds, effects) that doesn't really bother me being as this is in alpha.


  • eumenidexeumenidex Member Posts: 170

    I realy liked the video...but you could say that it was obviosly "Staged".

    I use the Word "staged" because it was shot from a third person PoV and well you could tell from the start that the greenskins were gonna die.

    I would have much rather seen something from a first person perspective that was just "randomly" recorded durring testing and the outcome wasn't clearly pre-deturmined. The reason for this is to give a clearer idea of what actual gameplay "feels like" and the uncertainty that is expected(Oxymoron...lolzimage) in RvR and warhammer. All we got from the fottage they released is that greenskins are going to fight dwarves, what the animations looked like from the third person, and what the sound might be similar too.

    All in all, I liked the video alot but more could/should have been done with it image

  • XennithXennith Member Posts: 1,244
    Judging by most of the comments Ive read on this forum, it should look like real life, sound like a movie and play the same as WoW / completely differently to WoW.

    In the video we have seen:
    Combat is both too fast and too slow. There is too much moving around, not enough bunny hopping. Its too gritty and too cartoony. Its obviously just another grind and also a WoW clone.

    Personally im amazed that anyone can get so much information from a video, if i could look at a gameplay video and instantly know what the game is going to play like id save myself hours. wonder how i can develop that skill.

    Visually id expect WAR to look like what we have seen, but a bit more polished. thats what warhammer looks like. as far as gameplay goes, ill wait till ive actually got my hands on it before judging it.



  • callmetobycallmetoby Member Posts: 302



    Originally posted by Xennith
    Judging by most of the comments Ive read on this forum, it should look like real life, sound like a movie and play the same as WoW / completely differently to WoW.

    In the video we have seen:
    Combat is both too fast and too slow. There is too much moving around, not enough bunny hopping. Its too gritty and too cartoony. Its obviously just another grind and also a WoW clone.

    Personally im amazed that anyone can get so much information from a video, if i could look at a gameplay video and instantly know what the game is going to play like id save myself hours. wonder how i can develop that skill.

    Visually id expect WAR to look like what we have seen, but a bit more polished. thats what warhammer looks like. as far as gameplay goes, ill wait till ive actually got my hands on it before judging it.



    I liked this post, especially the third paragraph. I agree completely. So many people are pessimistic and easily discontented about everything, making them generally miserable people to be around in the first place. I honestly don't really know what this group wants to see from the gaming industry, especially from alpha footage. Unfortunately we are in the generation of crying, whining emo-gamers who have the ability to twist every new bit of information into a unforgiveable tragedy. What makes it even better is that these comments aren't coming from people other developers...they're coming from everyday people who have no credibility in the industry. Let 'em go play Age of Conan or somethin. I'd rather not have their blind negativity and lack of rationality in the WAR community anyway.
  • VolkmarVolkmar Member UncommonPosts: 2,501

    Mostly i was disappointed by the animations, or lack therefore, of them.

    Yes, the knock out move IS actually well done, but that is basically the only thing well done in the animation department of the movie.

    Not all is crap, some are "averagely" well done and some are downright bad. The statement by the art director that they are 80-90% done on dwarven/orcs animation is even more worryingly, it means that is what we will get in release, basically and they just look too stiff.

    The second thing was: weapons and armors. Granted, those guys are tier 1 people, so at the lowest of the chain, but they STILL should have stuff that looks good. Look up ironbreakers minis, or hammerers, like these: http://uk.games-workshop.com/dwarfs/miniature-gallery/9/ 

    THOSE are nice hammers that looks bad ass, even being almost all the same.

    Anyhow, this is the minor issue, as the guys were definitly just starting AND prolly completely in newbie outfits, so no big deal. The animations, though, are another thing.

    Finally, it could be just that movie and the rest is fine, i hope so. i really do.

    "If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"



  • conscript27conscript27 Member Posts: 19
    It is alpha, but it completly turned me off. The conan Combat video kicked arse.
  • EldaElda Member Posts: 343

    Originally posted by conscript27
    It is alpha, but it completly turned me off. The conan Combat video kicked arse.
    yes that's a very good argument indeed...


  • Distortion0Distortion0 Member Posts: 668



    Originally posted by Elda



    Originally posted by conscript27
    It is alpha, but it completly turned me off. The conan Combat video kicked arse.

    yes that's a very good argument indeed...


    Haha. "OMFG DID YOU SEE THAT! HIS SWOrD WENT RIGHT THROUGH HIM!!!!! MATUREZ!!!!"

    Back in my day, we called that clipping. :P

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