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FreeJet
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Anyone besides me tired of seeing posts putting down games before they are even released?
As someone who is actually a fan of Conan I am excited about the upcoming release of this game. To me it looks like its going to be a great game. Since the open beta hasnt even begun yet, I know there is no basis of actual experience for anyone to base criticisms on. Its like would be critics look at the early, early screenshots and say "I don't like it" and go write a post explaining why the game is doomed from the start.
The truth is that this is an original game making a big splash is a genre full of derivatives. AoC is one of a few original MMORPGs on the horizon. To all real gamers and real conan fans who are looking forward to having a great time on AoC, game on never mind the haters!
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I was the same way at first, not really interested in the Conan lore, until I read up on the game and watched several videos... now it's probably the most anticipated game since Oblivion for me.
think it has become more and more popular doing that over the past 18+
months espically with open betas and some games being rushed to
release.
I was not overally interested in Conan because I am not a huge
fan. I liked the first movie. But recently as more has come
out about AoC I am very excitted about it. Certainly it will all
depend on how the game play is, the bugs that are involved, and if it
provides all of the content and functionality they intend to, but I am
getting more and more excited with what I read.
I do not think AoC is going to be a huge game. It is a small
company doing it without a stellar record. As long as their is
enough distance between AoC and WAR in release time then I think AoC
has a good shot at being, what used to be considered, a successful
game. I would expect 100,000 players.
If people want to say they do not like X about the game from what has
been released then that makes sense, but without beta testing at least,
I do not see how people can make bold claims. I mean the fact
that it is going to be released on the 360 means nothing since the 360
is better than many people's computers. Further, given how the
combat is that I read about in a preview a year ago, I would want a
joystick
given the IP it has a chance of brining in people new to the
mmorpgs. I doubt we will see something like WoW unless it is a
large amount of WoW subscribers.
AoC is competing for that same audience, albeit without a strong
IP. Both have PvP going on. In AoC it is more about guilds
and in WAR is is about your race.
As for games with more than 100,000 players
FFXI
EQ
EQ2
SWG
DAOC
EVE
UO
Second Life
Lineage
L2
"Both have PvP going on" is a very general statement and can be said about a ton of games. AoC PvP and WAR are almost two different games in themselves, you really can not compare them.
I think that you can safely leave SWG out from that list now.
I have been pessimistic against all new MMORPGs since Horizons was released and I accidentally bought it without reading any previews or early user feedback. Since then I have been laughing for WoW, EQ2, Dark and Light and other new game fans and their over optmistic attitude toward game that is not yet released (or just released). In MMORPGs, pessimistic attitude is more realistic than optimistic attitude and saves your hard earned money. Best moment of buying new MMORPG is month or two after it's release, normally game hypemeter is lowered to realistic levels then and you really can investigate is game worth of your money.
You guys/girls just haven't saw enough MMORPGs world yet - but you will learn (maybe not with Age of Conan - I hope it is good game, but with some other games). I promise.
"I know I said this was my last post, but you my friend are a idiotic moron." -Shadow4482
So, being optomistic about a game in development means that we simply haven't had enough experience yet? Bullshit
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
thinking! I said something that disagreed with you so I must be
wrong. Why don't you get your facts straight.
mmogchart.com Also, there are sites that track daily numbers on
servers. I play some of those games.
Conana is a weak IP. This does not mean it will not make a good
mmorpg, it just means there are not hundred of thousands of non-mmorpg
players that are following this with a huge amount of attention.
What most people think of when they hear Conan, if anything, is O'Brian
or Arnold. LotR is a strong IP. Warhammer is a strong IP,
Star Wars, etc. This does not mean a great game by the IP, but it
has name recognition and players outside of the mmorpg that will play
it.
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nonsense you think most of us are going to believe prove they are not
reliable.
Call me a fool but im going to believe a person that
takes the time to attened gamming events, Takes the time to review
games, takes the time to build the site and keep accurate stats, etc
more then im going to believe some poster on MMORPG.Com who doesn't
even use spaces to help people read his/her post
Asking us to believe you rather then the guy(s) that do MMORPGcharts.com is ridiculous, stop talking out your other end.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
And there is all the reason in the world to be skeptical of this game. There is such a thing as a track record that companys that have developed products before can get. And in Funcoms case the 'track record' is bad and good. Unlike you and most of these hollier then thou people that come on here talking crap I have played their previous games(TLG and AO) so I have all the reason in the world to be skeptical of what AOC will end up being like. Just like I would be skeptical if I ever decide to play another SOE game, another Cyrptic game, another Turbine game, etc.
AOC looks great no doubt, but there are serious questions and concerns that many of us fans of the game still have. Since unlike you probably, we actually have tried Funcoms products in the past...
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Call me a fool but im going to believe a person that takes the time to attened gamming events, Takes the time to review games, takes the time to build the site and keep accurate stats, etc more then im going to believe some poster on MMORPG.Com who doesn't even use spaces to help people read his/her post
Asking us to believe you rather then the guy(s) that do MMORPGcharts.com is ridiculous, stop talking out your other end.
Haha wow sorry I didn't realize I was writing a paper in MLA format that had to be double spaced. Grow up and learn how to read. I do attend game conventions, I do play the games, and I do give hard thought into reviewing them. Also, there was an article recently on Mmorpg.com that even stated that most game companies do not publicly release gameplay figures. If a game isn't publicly going to announce figures like that, why would they let something as simple as a monitoring program run and then they can release the figures? Put 2 and 2 together here. The site is using best guess, which can be luckily accurate or way off. Again, just do the simple math of maximum server capacity and total servers and then factor in the games popularity. Mmorpgcharts.com used to have WoW servers with at one time 20k people playing on each one at one time. That is completely ridiculous. I guess it goes to show how accurate they are...
Forgive some of us if we don't take your "Hard thought" as proof to back up the nonsence your spewing. Seems your the one using "best guess". As I said before prove it, post some facts or shut your trap.
My bad, let me translate this into garble so you can read it.
Useless dribble agian,like I said prove it or stfu.Forgive some of us if we don't take your"Hard thought"as proof to back up the nonsence your spewing.Seems the only one using "best guess".As I said before prove it,post some facts or shut your trap.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
But if this game is a success and please the mature gamers, even if they are not many, it will be enough for me. I'm tired of playing MMORPG where the main goal for the people I'm playing with in the same phantasy world is to be the FIRST/BEST/BIGGEST/PRO in something, like if they failed in real life and they try it in a game. Not only sad but breaks totally the immersion and fun.
Negative comments about the game should be reserved until the game is released, since no one has actually played the game.
Ok im sick of this we should all hold hands sing Kumbaya and have good 'happy thoughts' about AOC.
Some of the reasons why im pessimistic about AOC, feel free to ease my fears since numerious post on the Official forums by me (who has been a registered member there since May 05) and others have gone mysteriously unanswered.
1. The game engine is a upgraded version of the one they had in Anarchy Online..Now if anyone ever fought in Large PVP battles in Anarchy Online they would know that if you got alot of people PVPing in one area things would start to lag like a MOFO due to the game engine.. There are numerous accounts of this, just type in the keyworlds AO LAG PVP and bam there you go. Now AOC is suppose to be more centered around PVP then even AO was, so why would you keep the same crappy game engine, even if it is 'upgraded'.....Now some of you might buy into there crap and believe that it will work (THIS TIME), but to me the 'upgrade' is like putting icing on doo doo.
2. Buffs, many post have been made asking if people will be allowed to buff like they did in Anarchy Online, and for all I know (I haven't vistited the site much in the last month) no dev has answered this directly... Now the buff problem (and oh hell ya there was one) in AO was that very high levels could buff low levels (as long as the low level twinked his character enough to allow it).. This created Huge PVP and PVE problems since alot of people were running around in twinked out characters...
For those that never played AO just imagine this senario if you would.. Lets take WOW for example...Lets say you have a level 30 Warlock that is so twinked out that he is running around with a level 60 Warlock pet... This Warlock would be so OVERPOWERED in PVE that he would be able to run the entire Scarelet Monastery instance (graveyard, Lib, Armory, Monastery) by his DAMN SELF. Thats how bad twinked characters were in Anarchy Online due to them not having some type of limit or anything on high level buffs to low levels.. I won't even get into what it was like in PVP.. Lets just say if you fought my level 19 twinked trader and you were not buffed to hell yourself and were around the same level, you were dead in 2 hits max...Gee thats great pvp there boy..
3. Funcom, while they should be given a hive five for even making AO (a game that was innovative and truely one of the most indepth and complete MMORPG's in the history of the genre) they should also be slapped in the mouth for some of the decisions they made...Take Shadowlands for example or EQ 1.5 as most of us old AO vets called it. Not only did it ruin the gameplay for me and others by introducing something so alien into our game play, but they tried to force it upon many people which is worse.. For those that will remember when Shadowlands was released, for 2 freaking weeks all the outdoor mobs dissapeard... THEY were completely freaking gone (no borgs, No Bots, no Dyno Bosses, No nothing)..But guess what in Shadowlands those outdoor mobs were alive and kicking.. So the message from Funcom was that if you don't wanna be running missions from the terminal all day, and you don't wanna be stuck into a instance but would rather do some PVE outdoor (like a crap load of people did) then you would just have to buy Shadowlands (aka EQ 1.5) but ofcourse they never said that they just said they were working on the problem... I wont get into the fact that entire guilds and most of my friends just dissapeard soon after SL was released... Sadest moment in my time in that game was giving up my PVP towers due to the fact that all my old ememys and any new ones, QUIT PLAYING AO...
Those are just some Huge reason I and some others are skeptical of AOC, or hell any MMORPG now. Just too many dissapointments and to many freaking letdowns and 'what the hell are they thinking' choices that are made during the development of the game. While I would love for AOC to turn out to be a great game (hell even a decent one) you will have to forgive me if I won't hold my breath, and bring up some things(when I hear or see it) that cause my Red Flag to rise up.
P.S feel free to ease my fears if you feel any of the things I have talked about have been addressed (in depth) by the Developers..
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith