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Dungeon Runners is aweful!

brihtwulfbrihtwulf Member UncommonPosts: 975

Well, I've been testing Dungeon Runners since the first wave, and I have to say that is has come a long way from what it was back then.  They have added some features, and re-arranged some of the content to make it more user-friendly, but the game is still not worth playing in my opinion.  Here's why:

1. The top-down camera angle is clunky and they have no intention of changing it.

2. The game is some weird combination of Diablo2 and WoW.  (The style of D2, and grqaphics quality of WoW)

3. Combat is annoying and requires you to click and hold on targets that are often moving and jumping.

4. You can only be a human male or a human female.

5. There are only 3 classes.

6. There is still an extremely limited number of maps. (There were more in Diablo1)

7. The spells and particle system are that of Ultima Online (low quality)

8. Character customization is almost non-existant (a few faces and hair styles is all)

9. Not enough armor and weapon variations. (again making everyone look the same)

10. The only opportunity for PvP is a proposed battleground/arena that isn't implimented yet.

I think this game is going to do nothing but bring in a few bored foul-mouthed kiddies who have finally tired of WoW.  For the avid MMO player, this game offers nothing to sink your teeth into.  It falls below the bar in every category, even for a free MMO.  And for someone who isn't that much into Asian MMOs, I would have to say I would rather play Silkroad, or wait for 2Moons than waste my time in this thing.  The graphics and sound are weak, the quest system is tiny and uninteresting, and the combat is an annoyance worse than the original Diablo.  Feel free to rebut on any of my comments here, but if you've been in and out throughout the testing, I would imagine you've seen the same...

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  • TamalanTamalan Member Posts: 1,117



    Originally posted by brihtwulf

    Well, I've been testing Dungeon Runners since the first wave, and I have to say that is has come a long way from what it was back then.  They have added some features, and re-arranged some of the content to make it more user-friendly, but the game is still not worth playing in my opinion.  Here's why:
    1. The top-down camera angle is clunky and they have no intention of changing it.
    2. The game is some weird combination of Diablo2 and WoW.  (The style of D2, and grqaphics quality of WoW)
    3. Combat is annoying and requires you to click and hold on targets that are often moving and jumping.
    4. You can only be a human male or a human female.
    5. There are only 3 classes.
    6. There is still an extremely limited number of maps. (There were more in Diablo1)
    7. The spells and particle system are that of Ultima Online (low quality)
    8. Character customization is almost non-existant (a few faces and hair styles is all)
    9. Not enough armor and weapon variations. (again making everyone look the same)
    10. The only opportunity for PvP is a proposed battleground/arena that isn't implimented yet.
    I think this game is going to do nothing but bring in a few bored foul-mouthed kiddies who have finally tired of WoW.  For the avid MMO player, this game offers nothing to sink your teeth into.  It falls below the bar in every category, even for a free MMO.  And for someone who isn't that much into Asian MMOs, I would have to say I would rather play Silkroad, or wait for 2Moons than waste my time in this thing.  The graphics and sound are weak, the quest system is tiny and uninteresting, and the combat is an annoyance worse than the original Diablo.  Feel free to rebut on any of my comments here, but if you've been in and out throughout the testing, I would imagine you've seen the same...



    I also played in 2 stages of Beta

    And I have no rebuttal to the above post whatsoever, in my opinion it sums up the game perfectly.

    Ill maybe get some angry replys about this but i was sent the email to recommend others to beta test, I didnt respond to any of the forum requests for beta referral because, basically, I dont hate anyone enough to inflict it upon them.

    Even my 8 year old so thought it was 'stupid and boring'.
  • cyanhidecyanhide Member Posts: 141
    i saw the review on youtube ,cmon like u din't kno before u downloaded it ,it had nothing new its was realy louze well thats what i thought waste of server lol 


  • MiNaAuMiNaAu Member Posts: 382
    I agree with everything you said there, the game graphics were terrible! Movement was jerky and I hated the character control, there was so much lag I got so dizzy and it gave me a headache, there is nothing new about Dungeon Runners IMO it really sucks.


  • MasterfredMasterfred Member Posts: 94

    Dido ""

  • bonobotheorybonobotheory Member UncommonPosts: 1,007
    I wouldn't go so far as to call it awful, but then I'm a fan of Diablo knockoffs. I just don't think it has enough content or originality to have any lasting appeal. I enjoyed it for about a week, but now I've played through almost all of the content. They'll probably add more content before the game goes live, but I can't imagine anyone subscribing for more than a month or two.

     



  • I honestly don't call dungeon runners an MMO... it's more a casual multiplayer game with massive social complexes and in my view it's a decent game to pick up once in awhile and play with family members or a couple of friends... Might get better as time goes on but, I don't see myself ever really calling it an MMO...(and call me a carebear if you must but, I don't see PvP as a requirement in any MMO for it to be good... though i will take part in PvP if i get bored enough even though usually PvP is a horribly done after thought in most current games... maybe WAR will have good PvP... or maybe AoC but, thats a different topic completely...)


  • paulscottpaulscott Member Posts: 5,613
    its beta.  so some things you've complained about are invalid(not enough armors, and unimplemented stuff)


    I find it amazing that by 2020 first world countries will be competing to get immigrants.

  • visarivisari Member Posts: 9

     I have only played a lil biot.. got to level 8 so far..

     

     My impressions so far are as follows..

    First, I know this is beta..  I also know that the current version has the word Final in () which leads me to believe no major changes will be made soon.

     There are 3 Worlds to choose from.. each one creativly called World 1 2 and 3. Each world shows a percentage of players, which apparently has some form of usefullness that I have yet to understand.

     Logic would suggest that each world is a server, that each server has a population cap and that the percentage is based on that pop cap.

     However.. i have found that your one character can log into each of these worlds. And that the "worlds" are all the same. I dropped 2 items on the ground.. switched "worlds" and found those items still on the ground.

     So my understanding of the worlds is now.. at a loss.

     As far as game play goes.. its Hack n Slash.. pure and basic. I love HnS games. But so far.. this game is lil more than basic HnS.

     Items in the game do not follow any logical sense. Meaning a Green named level 9 two handed axe could do less damage than  a white named level 5 one handed club. Some armor that looks like metal plate has less defense than armor that looks like leather.. etc etc

     So you have to keep on your toes and examine each item with care.. dont get excited about that green, blue or yellow item until you have studied the stats.

     Most players I have seen are warriors.. i have not tried the mage or ranger classes.. yet. One thing i noted was that even though i am a warrior.. it appears that i can train in mage and ranger skills. Not sure if that is intentional or not.

     I honestly wonder if this game being an MMO is benificial or a crutch. I honestly have not seen anything in game to suggest there is any benefit to having 100's of other players in the game with you. There is no Auction house, no PvP, not even a group system that I am aware of.

     However, there is lag, random server disconnects and the like, which is part of beta so no foul there.

     As I stated,, I am like level 8 so far.. I am hoping the game will move closer to something cooler than HnS in bare caves as I level up.

     This game has alot of potential still.. so don't give up on it. but I feel in its current state only a few will bother with 4.99 a month to play the unlocked version

     

     

  • KremlikKremlik Member UncommonPosts: 716

    This topic kinda sums up my point about NDAs/BetaTesting/free riders..

    DR is a F2P game thats currently in beta and people are expecting P2P quality polished content already? Yes the game 'lacks' stuff, it's a Diablo rip yes, it's repetive content.. I'll agree to all this but geez guys can you wait until it's 6 months into gold before you judge a game 'crap' and rip it a new one..The game could completely change before that time, this has happened before in others why not this? From what I know so far from their offical forums is that they are currently listening to the actal testers and have changed a LOT of the game's content since alpha..

    what your doing atm is kinda like going up to a newborn and deeming them stupid because they don't know the alphabet

    Bring on the WARRRRGGHH!

  • culley65culley65 Member Posts: 77
    thousands of people still play AND enjoy Diablo 2 online to this day.
    Dungeon Runners does exactly what it is meant to do, its advertised as a hack and slash dungeon game..
    It's your own fault if you expected the next great mmorpg.
    IMO its a great game to kill time with.



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  • brihtwulfbrihtwulf Member UncommonPosts: 975
    No, Kingdom of Loathing (www.kingdomofloathing.com) is a great game to kill time with! image
  • JelloB2000JelloB2000 Member CommonPosts: 1,848


    Originally posted by Kremlik
    (...)The game could completely change before that time, this has happened before in others why not this? (...)
    What "others"?

    I only know of Anarcy Online that changed ALOT after beta but that took a good year or more (& even now some of the old issues from beta still remain).

    The "its still in beta" is no excuse, right now open beta tests have turned into trials with buggs & gameplay issues.

  • DarkhanDarkhan Member Posts: 8
    Dungeon Runners isnt that bad it still need the tuch of a real mmo yet. I would just say that the game got out from alpha abit (way much) to early. I have read on the forums that many of the stuff that even were in pre "open" beta has been shut of atm for service like the Abbilitys of Passive skill buying, pets and also something like sub classes. I would guess that the game isnt like the perfect mmo but for a free one its defenitly the best one yet. and i know i gonna get flamed for this but i think its better then wow atleast. Wow is so overated as it can get. Dungeon Runners will .. whit time get better and become a game which people can play and have a good time and then quit. not like todays mmos whit this obsessive audiance of fans which wont give in that the game mabe bad at some poits and keeps on playing becuse they dont whant to feel like the monhts they spent on it was a waste.

    So Flame on !!!



  • bonobotheorybonobotheory Member UncommonPosts: 1,007

    Originally posted by Kremlik
    This topic kinda sums up my point about NDAs/BetaTesting/free riders.. DR is a F2P game thats currently in beta and people are expecting P2P quality polished content already? Yes the game 'lacks' stuff, it's a Diablo rip yes, it's repetive content.. I'll agree to all this but geez guys can you wait until it's 6 months into gold before you judge a game 'crap' and rip it a new one..The game could completely change before that time, this has happened before in others why not this? From what I know so far from their offical forums is that they are currently listening to the actal testers and have changed a LOT of the game's content since alpha.. what your doing atm is kinda like going up to a newborn and deeming them stupid because they don't know the alphabet
    Unfortunately, I don't have a game that's "6 months into gold" to judge. I can only comment on what's placed before me, and that's a game that doesn't have much promise or potential.  It could undergo radical changes before release, in which case my opinion may change. Until then, I call it like I see it.


  • Jimmy_ScytheJimmy_Scythe Member CommonPosts: 3,586

    Originally posted by brihtwulf

    1. The top-down camera angle is clunky and they have no intention of changing it.
    3. Combat is annoying and requires you to click and hold on targets that are often moving and jumping. 4. You can only be a human male or a human female. 5. There are only 3 classes.

    8. Character customization is almost non-existant (a few faces and hair styles is all)


    Oh no!! It plays just like Diablo!!! How awful <sarcasm>

    Seriously, telling me that it's like Diablo isn't exactly a criticism that will turn most people away.


  • SoliTearSoliTear Member Posts: 46
    I take DR just as they want you to take it, a Hack'n'Slash that has quite a bit of humor in it.  Yes, it is not polished.  Yes, it has some development to go before release.  I like the find group aspect of the game.  I've played it a few hours the last few days.  This game is NOT meant to be a full fledged MMO, but a focused product that is to be fun and full of humor.



    I'd like to know how many different ways can a person design a Hack'N'Slash.  I just don't think that they MUST avoid features that other Hack'N'Slash games have.  They want a game that is easy to learn and fun to play quickly.  Well, to do that, you have to use elements that other Hack'N'Slash games use.  If you say  Dungeon Runner looks like <insert name here> then you are just identifying some of the genre's common elements.



    If the development completes properly, I think this will be a very hot product.
  • moegophermoegopher Member Posts: 2
    I have mixed feelings about Dungeons Runners. It gives a good feeling when you accomplish something big in it, but that disappears later on.
    I do like the mild humor that is found in there sometimes.
    I am going to stick with it until it's out of beta to see if it improves enough to continue playing.



  • stickmstickm Member Posts: 219

    There is a grouping system... for whoever said there was no grouping...

    and once in their group u just right click their name to do stuff... and you can type /goto to warp to whatever dungeon they are in.

    My problem with the game is

    1. not enought different armours

    2. items stats are not random enough and there are not enough variations... i would get the exact same yellow text item frequently.

    3. the item images need more variation... thye all look the same.

    4. better targeting system... as an archer it was very hard to click on enemies once they were moving

    5. better creep AI or something...

    -creeps only attack if your very close

    -if you attack 1 creep all the creeps in its group attack you no matter where they are

    This makes fighting creeps boring because you knew exactly what they will do because their whole ai is like

    if ( attacked || player.distance < x)

    {

    attack();

    }

     

    Also its not very graphically impressive (not as impressive as like guild wars) and dungeon runners lags badly on my computer... guild wars runs fine...

  • paulscottpaulscott Member Posts: 5,613
    I've read the revies ect.  the point of the game isn't to be your main one, but rather be a diabloish side game.  also it plans to be completely free.


    I find it amazing that by 2020 first world countries will be competing to get immigrants.

  • J_HurryJ_Hurry Member UncommonPosts: 230

    Got into beta last week and started leveling up a fighter. By lvl 20, I was about to call it quits.  I pressed on so I can do all 10 lvls of HDoL and Embercore/Shadow's Embrace. Now I'm lvl 35 and can barely force myself to log in. I know it's being advertised as a "simple hack-n-slash" but even as that, it just fails in so many ways.

    Diablo 3 should set the precedent for these types of games.

    LGM Alchemist (Legendary Grandmaster)
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