I am new, i have few questions

Squal'Zell · November 2006

ok i bought the game, comes with a 30 day trial.

i am a SWG vet and as you might of guessed i am fed up. trader/entertainer revamp will suck since they will be making them able to combat.

and for future reference, i have never nor intend to play WoW.

ok as for my questions, ive been reading a bit on these forums but the answers do not give me enough information so if you could please to help clarify a few things.

im a bit confused on the crafting how does that work? (simple words will sufice eg: in SWG, get shematic, get ressources, craft components, craft item with components with the help of crafting tools and crafting stations.)

and the PvP is there like a war between factions? or is it simply guilds. (and if factions is the PvP voluntary or do you have to agree OR is there a similar SWG-PreCu TEF system.

amd last question which i am lazy to look up cuz of the billions of skills exist : is there a class that you can uprgade with the use of magic an item or is it only mind buffs and other attribute buffs?

oh and 1 more question: is there alchemy or something similar?

evildead305 · November 2006

pvp is simply a server that people go to to fight each other it is not just guilds and things of that nature

Odenathus · November 2006

Originally asked by Squal'Zell
im a bit confused on the crafting how does that work?
and the PvP is there like a war between factions?
is there a class that you can uprgade with the use of magic an item or is it only mind buffs and other attribute buffs?
is there alchemy or something similar?

A) Crafting: You decide which skill you will work on (there is a large list and you can do them all)
you can train up to 20 points in this skill (I think) from there you have to actually make things.
You have to buy or find the pattern
You have to buy or find the materials
sometimes you have to craft materials or patterns using other skills
You have to find the correct crafting equipment (forge, sewing kit, fletching kit...)
You put the items together often enough and your skills get better.
The higher your skill the better items you can craft the lower your failure rate is

I play on a blue server. Only PvP allowed on a blue server is consenual - Player vs Player
You'll have to find someone who plays on a Pink server and ask them how it works...
Blue servers are PvE - Pink servers are PvP

C) Most armor, weapons and items can be upgraded with magical augments. Augments can be player made, found on mobs or purchased from some vendors. This works for any class, however, not all items work for all classes nor do all augs work for all items - you have to find the correct items for your class

D) Alchemy is the skill for making potions, this skill is in the game, Shamans have this skill and can train it up (I don't think any other class can work with Alchemy)

sebbonx · November 2006

Originally posted by Squal'Zell

ok i bought the game, comes with a 30 day trial.
Sorry you even bothered, I would have to ask are you nuts?
i am a SWG vet and as you might of guessed i am fed up. trader/entertainer revamp will suck since they will be making them able to combat.
You are willing to give SOE more money?
and for future reference, i have never nor intend to play WoW.
Your loss thats for sure.
ok as for my questions, ive been reading a bit on these forums but the answers do not give me enough information so if you could please to help clarify a few things.
im a bit confused on the crafting how does that work? (simple words will sufice eg: in SWG, get shematic, get ressources, craft components, craft item with components with the help of crafting tools and crafting stations.)
Crafting is pretty much useless in EQ except for a few items like Grandmaster armor with raid augs.
and the PvP is there like a war between factions? or is it simply guilds. (and if factions is the PvP voluntary or do you have to agree OR is there a similar SWG-PreCu TEF system.
PvP is hopelessly bad in EQ.
amd last question which i am lazy to look up cuz of the billions of skills exist : is there a class that you can uprgade with the use of magic an item or is it only mind buffs and other attribute buffs?
Any classes power is solely based on item power in EQ, melee especially.
oh and 1 more question: is there alchemy or something similar?
Shaman can do alchemy and with potions being vendor sold it has become nearly worthless.

Anheuser · November 2006

Originally posted by sebbonx

Originally posted by Squal'Zell

ok i bought the game, comes with a 30 day trial.
Sorry you even bothered, I would have to ask are you nuts?
i am a SWG vet and as you might of guessed i am fed up. trader/entertainer revamp will suck since they will be making them able to combat.
You are willing to give SOE more money?
and for future reference, i have never nor intend to play WoW.
Your loss thats for sure.
ok as for my questions, ive been reading a bit on these forums but the answers do not give me enough information so if you could please to help clarify a few things.
im a bit confused on the crafting how does that work? (simple words will sufice eg: in SWG, get shematic, get ressources, craft components, craft item with components with the help of crafting tools and crafting stations.)
Crafting is pretty much useless in EQ except for a few items like Grandmaster armor with raid augs.
and the PvP is there like a war between factions? or is it simply guilds. (and if factions is the PvP voluntary or do you have to agree OR is there a similar SWG-PreCu TEF system.
PvP is hopelessly bad in EQ.
amd last question which i am lazy to look up cuz of the billions of skills exist : is there a class that you can uprgade with the use of magic an item or is it only mind buffs and other attribute buffs?
Any classes power is solely based on item power in EQ, melee especially.
oh and 1 more question: is there alchemy or something similar?
Shaman can do alchemy and with potions being vendor sold it has become nearly worthless.

Just ignore Sebbonx's reply; he's a troll & the stereotypical fanboi of WoW. Go ahead & give EQ a try and keep asking specific questions b/c there are plenty of helpful people on this website who are willing to help.

Anheuser

sebbonx · November 2006

Just ignore Anheuser, he is a hopeless fanboi that can be abused by a company and ask for more. He hates the fact WoW has 6+ million players and the games he likes can barely muster 100k because they hopelessly stink. There is no reason atm to play any game except WoW, unless you like barren worlds with no players that is. The only thing I will give you is some free games are worth playing, due to be FREE.

Anheuser · November 2006

Originally posted by sebbonx
Just ignore Anheuser, he is a hopeless fanboi that can be abused by a company and ask for more. He hates the fact WoW has 6+ million players and the games he likes can barely muster 100k because they hopelessly stink. There is no reason atm to play any game except WoW, unless you like barren worlds with no players that is. The only thing I will give you is some free games are worth playing, due to be FREE.

Thanks sebbonx for proving my point that you are a WoW fanboi who's highly intolerant of those who have the gall to disagree with you. Once again you are showing to everyone on this forum that you are utterly incapable of grasping the simple fact that some people actually like playing EQ despite Sony's presence.

Anheuser

sebbonx · November 2006

Thanks for proving you are in that wierdo fringe group that likes the crappy game design from last century.

Anheuser · November 2006

Originally posted by sebbonx
Thanks for proving you are in that wierdo fringe group that likes the crappy game design from last century.

Once again my previous points about sebbonx have been proven correct.

Anheuser

sebbonx · November 2006

Or you are going to cry and stamp your feet, Mr. I have to get in the last word?

Okay, respond with a rebuttal to each and every critism of EQ!

1. If you aren't on one of the new servers you will be in an empty newbie zone for leveling, or sorrounded by twinks being PLed. If you are on the new servers you better be in FoH, and everyone else is already quitting.

2. If you don't get into a raid guild, make that a NEW raid guild you will be hopelessly behind gear wise. NEW because the old members have so many DKP you won't get any gear anyway as they will take it all.

3. SOE won't pump out another expansion putting you yet further behind with the leveling in the empty newbie zone. Don't forget the $30.00 cost on top of the $15.00 monthly fee for the game launched in 1999.

4. If your favorite class is pretty hopelessly broken (cough cough WARRIOR) except in raid settings, and SOE promised TWO freaking years ago to rebalance classes, to include looking at soloability, you would put up with being lied to yet again.

5. EQ is attracting new players and has close to 7 million players with new servers opening constantly, hahaha, thats a good one!

Odenathus · November 2006

Originally touted by sebbonx
Okay, respond with a rebuttal to each and every critism of EQ!
1. If you aren't on one of the new servers you will be in an empty newbie zone for leveling, or sorrounded by twinks being PLed. If you are on the new servers you better be in FoH, and everyone else is already quitting.
2. If you don't get into a raid guild, make that a NEW raid guild you will be hopelessly behind gear wise. NEW because the old members have so many DKP you won't get any gear anyway as they will take it all.
3. SOE won't pump out another expansion putting you yet further behind with the leveling in the empty newbie zone. Don't forget the $30.00 cost on top of the $15.00 monthly fee for the game launched in 1999.
4. If your favorite class is pretty hopelessly broken (cough cough WARRIOR) except in raid settings, and SOE promised TWO freaking years ago to rebalance classes, to include looking at soloability, you would put up with being lied to yet again.
5. EQ is attracting new players and has close to 7 million players with new servers opening constantly, hahaha, thats a good one!

A1) Incorrect. There is now the Tutorial and Crescent Reach - populated with lowbies and newbies.
A2) Incorrect. The latest expansions have had greater solo content than raid content. Also, player made gear is equal to raid drops.
A3) Incorrect. You can now buy "Packages" that include the core game and all the current expansions. These are noramlly available appx 3 weeks after expansion release.
A4) Incorrect. You yourself stated that warriors have been fixed. All other classes have had their balancing worked on (prolly never gonna be done) since 2004.
A5) I think this is the first I've heard anyone, even another EQ fanboi, say anything like this.

Sebbonx, you haven't played EQ since 2002. Everyone here knows you are seriouslyanti-Everquest and seriously pro-World of WarCraft. Do we have to see it in everyone's threads?

Anheuser · November 2006

Originally posted by sebbonx

Or you are going to cry and stamp your feet, Mr. I have to get in the last word?
My Lord, look who's talking!
Okay, respond with a rebuttal to each and every critism of EQ!
You mean your "objective" criticism of EQ, a game that you hate with a passion?
1. If you aren't on one of the new servers you will be in an empty newbie zone for leveling, or sorrounded by twinks being PLed. If you are on the new servers you better be in FoH, and everyone else is already quitting.
Based on your previous posts, you haven't played EQ in years yet you speak as if you're an expert on recent events, making many assertions that rarely fit the reality. I logged on to my toon on the Combine for the first time in 4 months, went to the Commonlands, and it was still pretty populated. You are correct with your comment that the old newbie zones on older servers are largely empty; the tutorial is the primary culprit for that.
2. If you don't get into a raid guild, make that a NEW raid guild you will be hopelessly behind gear wise. NEW because the old members have so many DKP you won't get any gear anyway as they will take it all.
Wait a second. First you say that the populations on the EQ servers are embarrassingly low, and then you claim that it's impossible to get uber gear because all the raiding guilds (and all the people who belong to it) are hogging all the prime raiding sites 24 hours a day. So what is it? If there's no one playing EQ, then how can all the raiding spots be camped (on all the servers) by the uber guilds if no one is playing?
Of course the premise of that point is pure rot. I've been on a few raids recently and we've had little trouble getting access, finding our target up, and getting decent gear. of course you could always buy better gear, especially with the new expansion, if you know how to effectively farm.
3. SOE won't pump out another expansion putting you yet further behind with the leveling in the empty newbie zone. Don't forget the $30.00 cost on top of the $15.00 monthly fee for the game launched in 1999.
Your first sentence doesn't make any sense. Could you please clarify that point?
By the way, I pay $8.33 per month to EQ. I agree that Sony should cut down on the number of expansions and provide more free content; however, if you can't afford to pay $29.99 every 6 months or so for a new expansion, then perhaps you should move back in with your parents or quit your McJob.
4. If your favorite class is pretty hopelessly broken (cough cough WARRIOR) except in raid settings, and SOE promised TWO freaking years ago to rebalance classes, to include looking at soloability, you would put up with being lied to yet again.
I solo fine with my Pally. Yet I agree that some classes, especially in the higher levels, need to rely more on groups to gain xp. Of course, EQ was built around the concept of having different people work together in groups to advance. I don't think it's a shock to anyone that EQ is largely group-oriented, and this was part of the game's appeal when it debuted in 1999. If you don't like to group then perhaps EQ is not for you, plain and simple.
By the way, isn't grouping required in some parts of WoW, especially if you're looking to attain epic gear once you reach level 60?
5. EQ is attracting new players and has close to 7 million players with new servers opening constantly, hahaha, thats a good one!
Is that supposed to be a criticism? That was the purpose of your obnoxious post, wasn't it: to offer criticisms of EQ? I know you think you're being clever with the above comment but in reality you're coming across as a complete tool. Sarcasm doesn't suit you because it requires a higher level of intelligence and maturity to carry it off successfully.
In addition, not too long ago in this forum I believe you (or perhaps someone else) said that WoW's population was 5M, then it was 6M, and now it's near 7M. Who wants to wager that when Christmas rolls around, sebbonx will claim that WoW has a population of 10M or higher?

Don't you have any other forums to troll where you can display your immaturity and creepiness to others?

Anheuser

sebbonx · November 2006

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/07/world-of-warcraft-hits-7-million-subscribers/

You again are wrong Anheuser! maybe you need to brush up a whole lot on what is going on in the MMORPG world. I a;so don't "need" to raid in WoW, PvP is 100 times better then EQ's sorry PvP servers and people actually play WoW. What is left in EQ? I say about 70k players, prove me wrong!

Squal'Zell · November 2006

sebbonx one thing about WOW

first,why do you think they have 6 milion subs?

because any one can play it... it easy, any gramma who hasnt touched a
computer can play that childish game. WOW is the bigest
kinderkarten in teh world.

second, if you think that SWG and EQ both suck because SOE failed in
SWG? wrong. the devs of SWG are not the same as teh DEVs in EQ.
why do you think EQ is coming out with a 12th expansion? how long has
WoW come out? and how many expansions? 0!!!

you are clearely a WoW fanboy who's life revolves around WoW and lives
for WoW. you like to grind in raids right? huh... so if grinding
killing in groups to get the best items in the game... sounds alot like
single player with coop missions. exept you pay 15$ month.

Anheuser thanks for the suport and i got the game and its preatty
cool. would you sugest me to go in the new servers that follow
timelines? or some populated already exiting servers. (if so which ones
are most populated?)

and sebbonx, go back to wow forums... and go do raids.

logangregor · November 2006

Originally posted by Anheuser
Originally posted by sebbonx
Originally posted by Squal'Zell
ok i bought the game, comes with a 30 day trial.
Sorry you even bothered, I would have to ask are you nuts?
i am a SWG vet and as you might of guessed i am fed up. trader/entertainer revamp will suck since they will be making them able to combat.
You are willing to give SOE more money?
and for future reference, i have never nor intend to play WoW.
Your loss thats for sure.
ok as for my questions, ive been reading a bit on these forums but the answers do not give me enough information so if you could please to help clarify a few things.
im a bit confused on the crafting how does that work? (simple words will sufice eg: in SWG, get shematic, get ressources, craft components, craft item with components with the help of crafting tools and crafting stations.)
Crafting is pretty much useless in EQ except for a few items like Grandmaster armor with raid augs.
and the PvP is there like a war between factions? or is it simply guilds. (and if factions is the PvP voluntary or do you have to agree OR is there a similar SWG-PreCu TEF system.
PvP is hopelessly bad in EQ.
amd last question which i am lazy to look up cuz of the billions of skills exist : is there a class that you can uprgade with the use of magic an item or is it only mind buffs and other attribute buffs?
Any classes power is solely based on item power in EQ, melee especially.
oh and 1 more question: is there alchemy or something similar?
Shaman can do alchemy and with potions being vendor sold it has become nearly worthless.

Just ignore Sebbonx's reply; he's a troll & the stereotypical fanboi of WoW. Go ahead & give EQ a try and keep asking specific questions b/c there are plenty of helpful people on this website who are willing to help.

Anheuser

and for future reference, i have never nor intend to play WoW.
Your loss thats for sure. I agree.

Curious though, hes a fanboi of WoW because?

Guess that makes you a fanbois of EQ.

Btw EQ, a game that I have not played nor intend to play. Ive met some of you guys in RL.
Whew scary ::::03::
I suupose I didnt miss out on much, cant beat RvR in DAOC ::::20::

neschria · November 2006

Originally posted by logangregor

Guess that makes you a fanbois of EQ.

Gee, people who like EQ posting in the EQ forums... Who would have expected that? I know, we all ought to be posting on the DAoC and WoW forums about how those games suck, because that appears to be the standard operating procedure.

Anheuser · November 2006

Originally posted by sebbonx

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/07/world-of-warcraft-hits-7-million-subscribers/
You again are wrong Anheuser! maybe you need to brush up a whole lot on what is going on in the MMORPG world.
WoW now has over 6M players, EQ doesn't.....got it Einstein. What's the "whole lot" that I need to brush up on exactly?
BTW, congrats to Blizzard for making a game that has attracted so many players. It's certainly an accomplishment.
What is left in EQ? I say about 70k players, prove me wrong!
Well you made the assertion so go ahead and prove it yourself. Usually the onus of proving a point is left to the person who actually made the point in the first place.
And if it is true that EQ has a subscription base of 70K (which I doubt), then who gives a flying fart? Once again you erroneously equate large numbers (WoW membership) with quality. As I have said before: if you like WoW then good for you....stick with it. But if you insist on becoming an obnoxious troll that flames away, then don't be shocked if someone disagrees with you, especially in an EQ forum you dope.

Anheuser

Anheuser · November 2006

Originally posted by logangregor

Curious though, hes (sebbonx) a fanboi of WoW because?

Based on what he has regurgitated on this forum over and over again, apparently he's a big fanboi of WoW b/c of its subscriber base. Pretty impressive reasoning, huh? That's like me saying that McDonalds is my favorite restaurant b/c they've serve so many people. See how idiotic that sounds? I'm sure he likes the game for other reasons; however, whenever he rears his head in this forum and states his opinions, it's all about the subscriber base and how EQ must suck because it doesn't have 32 billion people playing it.

Guess that makes you a fanbois of EQ.

Because we like to play EQ and actually defend the game when immature trolls (who have never played the game or haven't played in years) come into an EQ forum and proceed to personally attack EQ players based on absolutely nothing? Speaking of which....

Btw EQ, a game that I have not played nor intend to play. Ive met some of you guys in RL.
Whew scary

I've seen some real winners playing WoW on their laptops in my university's cafeteria. These guys are the dictionary definition of complete losers; however, I don't judge an entire community on such a small sampling. Perhaps you should do the same.

Anheuser

Anheuser · November 2006

Originally posted by Squal'Zell

Anheuser thanks for the suport and i got the game and its preatty cool. would you sugest me to go in the new servers that follow timelines? or some populated already exiting servers. (if so which ones are most populated?)

It's up to you really. If you are an old school MMORPG type of guy, the progression servers may fit you better. I am not so I prefer to play on the other servers. Stromm seems to have a decent population on a consistent basis.

Anheuser

krenalor · November 2006

Originally posted by Anheuser

Originally posted by logangregor
Curious though, hes (sebbonx) a fanboi of WoW because?
Based on what he has regurgitated on this forum over and over again, apparently he's a big fanboi of WoW b/c of its subscriber base. Pretty impressive reasoning, huh? That's like me saying that McDonalds is my favorite restaurant b/c they've serve so many people. See how idiotic that sounds? I'm sure he likes the game for other reasons; however, whenever he rears his head in this forum and states his opinions, it's all about the subscriber base and how EQ must suck because it doesn't have 32 billion people playing it.
I don't personnaly like WoW myself, but it is 100 times better then EQ, and so are its player numbers

Guess that makes you a fanbois of EQ.
Because we like to play EQ and actually defend the game when immature trolls (who have never played the game or haven't played in years) come into an EQ forum and proceed to personally attack EQ players based on absolutely nothing? Speaking of which....

Btw EQ, a game that I have not played nor intend to play. Ive met some of you guys in RL.
Whew scary
I say the same about EQ players!
I've seen some real winners playing WoW on their laptops in my university's cafeteria. These guys are the dictionary definition of complete losers; however, I don't judge an entire community on such a small sampling. Perhaps you should do the same.

I say the same thing about losers hanging on to an ancient game with no gas left! I see the same losers, hey in your University, another kiddie from 13-24 that populate the lifeless raider club!

Anheuser

You were wrong about subscriber numbers and Brenlo and his SOE cronnies can quit posting, no new players have entered EQ in ages!

Squal'Zell · November 2006

ok im playing EQ now and ... hum im on prexus... seems empty.... havent
seen any one in a while...ill give it the benefit of the doubt and make
a character in the progression servers... see how that goes...

if i dont find it worthwhile i guess ill stay with SWG where i see more people than EQ

P.S. in no way i said it sucked and in no way i said its the worst game ever... im just saying that it seems empty on prexus.

Odenathus · November 2006

Originally posted by Squal'Zell
ok im playing EQ now and ... hum im on prexus... seems empty.... havent seen any one in a while...ill give it the benefit of the doubt and make a character in the progression servers... see how that goes...

I would have recommended the progression servers, first.
Then Stromm (as it's the youngest, other server)

On Druzzil Ro, I have created a lowbie toon and noticed that at anytime of day that I was logged in, working on this toon, the tutorial was nicely populated.
When leaving the tutorial, you now seem forced to into Crescent Reach, no matter what your race. Crescent Reach seems to be nicely populated with folk. Since there are quest NPCs for 1-75 here, also, you are frequently able to get high end buffs - which is nice

But I agree, the lowbie zones are not the player jammed packed zones they used to be.

Vectinn · November 2006

If you are having trouble finding people in game, it's because most of the newbie zones became obsolete when Planes of Power expansion went live. If the Plane of Knowledge is dead on that server then you have a problem. If you haven't been to the PoK, then give it a shot. I know on Drinal it's packed most all the time.

Best of luck if you try the progression servers it looks like fun.

Vectinn

Anheuser · November 2006

I hope everyone enjoyed their Thanksgiving.
Originally posted by logangregor
I don't personnaly like WoW myself, but it is 100 times better then EQ, and so are its player numbers
100 times better? How do you know that? You said earlier THAT YOU NEVER PLAYED EQ. In fact here's the quote:
Btw EQ, a game that I have not played nor intend to play.
And again with the player numbers! Jeez, give it a rest! When you show me scientific proof that higher subscription numbers = a better game, then I might listen to that argument without laughing. Otherwise it's only your opinion, which you are entitled to.

I say the same thing about losers hanging on to an ancient game with no gas left! I see the same losers, hey in your University, another kiddie from 13-24 that populate the lifeless raider club!

Ancient game? 1999 is now "ancient?" LOL!! True it's one of the older MMORPGs out there but let's not get carried away with this "ancient" rubbish.
I have no idea of what you were getting at in your second sentence.

You were wrong about subscriber numbers and Brenlo and his SOE cronnies can quit posting, no new players have entered EQ in ages!

No new players in ages? I beg to differ.

Timpas · December 2006

Hi everyone,

Started to play eq on Bristlebane in 99 and Stoped playing eq late in 2004 after the gates of discord expantion.

Started to play wow a few weeks ago and love the soloing. Fast mana regen and hp regen. I was wondering how is the soloing in eq now? like how is the mana regen and hp regent like ? Soloing used to be dreadfull in eq. I heard that the mana regen is faster. Can we now solo all the way up ?

Thanks

Takata5 · December 2006

I got sick of WoW because of the soloing. Oh I've joined guilds in WoW but I still ended up soloing 90% of the time. The community wasn't that great either, specially with so many people playing it. EQ and even EQ2 always had the more mature players.

I agree though, to find players go to PoK and ask for a group, if your luck you'll get to group with some twinks if there are no new players around. Also chat on the new players channel. My server, Erollisi Marr has one. The tutorial zone wasn't empty for me either so I was able to get help with some quests there. You can stay in the tutorial until about lvl 11, so try and make some new friends in there.

If worst comes to worst just keep trying different servers until you find some new players to group with and maybe even find a guild to.

As for soloing all the way up, I don't think its possible. It would depend on what class you are and if you get higher level buffs to help you, then MAYBE.

Another tip, try and find your servers website, most likely they had thier own fourms so make a post there. Most every server has had thier own fourms.

Good luck and happy hunting!

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