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free to play... they should be paying players
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this game... ugg.. I only tryed it because it came out under codemasters who I had some faith in based on previous games. Beyond disappointing, this game is like a slap in the face to everyone who plays it. Even if you never pay a dime, a small piece of your soul will die when you see what some gamers already naively laid down cash for. Nothing could prepare you for how bad this game sucks. Stay away!
Imagine a crappy korean rip off based on the earliest beta of diablo 2, thats about ten times better then what you would experience if you set foot in the stink hole that is archlord. They started out charging a monthly fee. They recinded that fee when they realised they could not live with the shame of what was being put forward as a product worth paying for. Now they want to try to save face and credibility and maybe make just a few more dollars by removing the subscription fee.
This game borders on a scam for how bad it sucks. let me give you an example. Its nothing but a huge grind. Every so often your endless repetitive missions demand that you kill a generic named boss. The code is broken and they cant fix it so these named bosses never spawn. Instead you are supposed to log into an in game chat room, wait in line, and ask a gm to spawn the boss for you. That should tell you all you really need to know. Consider that the ultimate height of quality the game has to offer. A huge catastrophe.
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Honnestly, I'm getting really tired of all those people saying "Omgz, stay away, it sucks!!11" let people make up their own damn mind.
Honnestly, I'm getting really tired of all those people saying "Omgz, stay away, it sucks!!11" let people make up their own damn mind.
Theres a reason why Lineage 2 is successful in the western market then Archlord. L2 is still pay to play subscrption, while Archlord went Free to play for a reason. If you want true open pvp Lineage 2 is the best option.
How Does This Game Suck?
People say graphics are bad, well actually no there not, turn them up in options and you have a lineage 2/wow
People say the grind is horrbile, yet again how, becuase you can't get to 60 in a month unlike wow?
The game borrows elements from recent games which makes it surpurb, if you mix lineage 2 & diablo 2 togeather ,you will get this beutiful game, lineage 2 graphics with the diablo feel.
Bosses never spawn, WTF i don't know where you got that one from but bosses spawn every 4 mins after killing them, get facts rights.
Koreon MMO, Yes and No, Lineage 2 was a koreon, i don't see no one bashing that, compare Archlord to Hero online and Rappelz and Silkroad It owns them all, it is actually fun to play archlord while on these games you just sit there clicking till your fingers brake, Lineage 2 may be best PVP but thats where archlord comes close when episode 2 is out L2 will have a run for its money,but look at its L2's reputation, i use to play it with a guild of 80, level 68 assassin dark elf, all left due to bots and bad customer surrport and the econemy screwed to hell bacuse of all the ebayers and NCsoft are letting are still letting them do this
I was a bit worried about geting this game beacuse of all the reviews from players like this nub and critics but my gut was right this time and this game will be enjoyed for years, so what about the bugs they can be fixed, episode 2, adding all new content and bug fixes Can't Wait
Don't Bash a game untill you have played it properly
Honnestly, I'm getting really tired of all those people saying "Omgz, stay away, it sucks!!11" let people make up their own damn mind.
Theres a reason why Lineage 2 is successful in the western market then Archlord. L2 is still pay to play subscrption, while Archlord went Free to play for a reason. If you want true open pvp Lineage 2 is the best option.
Well one of the biggest reason L2 is still successful in the west is because all of their bot subscribers (makes up almost 1/2 of the player base which is why NC wont get rid of them... that and because its NCsoft.....) But I guess there wouldn't be bots if people didn't ebay their stuff.... well in L2 that is one of the few ways to actually get it... ebay or make a dwarf (funny how few people [not bots] actually make a high lvl dwarf in L2 when it basically says all they are good for is makeing money) Other then that though L2 has one of the best PvP systems I have ever seen in a game and for those of us who joined good clans, the sieges are a blast too (I still want a wyvren for the hell of it though) LvL 73 Sorc on Bartz server (ya only 7 lvls to go to reach cap after 3 yrs of playing .... o damn to bad I need more total xp for just those last 7 lvls then all my xp so far......) Okay enough about L2 now for my questions on AL... anyone know what the castle sieges are supposed to be like (if u have played L2 u can give me a comparison please) also the grind rate (im sure its not as bad but who knows) and this Guild vs Guild war system/battle grounds.... L2 has something similar with wars but all the battles took place at common grind spots... TOI, DVC, FG, and others (most former L2 players will know what the hell im talking about) Also for all those mages in this game. Whats it like?? I'm used to playing a mage class so give me some heads up for each class... thinking of trying this game but still unsure
tbh bots on l2. only lots a newb lvls. i barly see any after lvl 60+.
and i like the wars, and i get pvp event everynight to war for a spot as a hero (1for each class) wich is very fun and competitive
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This game owns by the way
Yeah stop saying it sucks man.....those who are always swearing the game sucks are so "wannabe"s....(with all due respect)
I think archlord is a great game......and free to play well...better....
now the games are getting free to play because people are realizing that...they win more with Ads and those premium items....like in FLYFF and those games.......than what they earn with subscriptions with few people....so.,..
they do free games and have much more people playing and earning lots with ads and premium items thats intelligent markting in my opinion..and i think Archlord getting free will be the best thing they've done...
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PS1 graphics were about 320x240 ...if you ran Archlord at the highest setting it would be 1600x1200 32 bit color and at least 2xFSAA and around 8xAF ...I think you don't really have a "great system" but a
system.
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/archlord/index.html
2.7 >> terrible
Im not a person who always listen to gaming site rating but there has to be something with this game to get a comment like: "You probably shouldn't play ArchLord."
F2P? this game is just like other F2P MMO like silkroad, 9dragons, hero online, M.U. online, Mapple story blah blah the list go on...
so it is not the only real MMO that had no monthlee fee or a "great deal" like u see
The gamespot socre is only half of my opinion, if the game does not deserve 2.7, it would be 4-5 or so, definetely not a very good game.
About the game content, everywhere that there are comments posted about the game. There will be something familiar like grinding festival, hard to level, blah blah... excuse me becuz i did never tried the game but how would u explain the grinding of this?
Why does the company switch from monthly fee to cashshop 3 months later from release? Why does the price of the copy drop to $29.99 in EBgame from $49.99? (i dont think it is a xmas sale cuz other game's price stay the same)
To me this game look somewhat familiar to those F2P MMO out there, it shouldnt have a retailed copy or a monthly fee from the begining.
It switched from a pay to play model to a free to play modes to what I believe are two reasons:
Naturaly, the game didn't do to well. The servers were on few pretty much all the time.
Making it a free model would work because the game was build with that payment model in mind (or rather, its been updated with that model in mind shortly after release in korea). Its also the new standard in Korea. Pay to play is pretty rare in Korea nowadays. Many companies expect this to be the standard in the west as well at some point.
It switched from a pay to play model to a free to play modes to what I believe are two reasons:
Naturaly, the game didn't do to well. The servers were on few pretty much all the time.
Making it a free model would work because the game was build with that payment model in mind (or rather, its been updated with that model in mind shortly after release in korea). Its also the new standard in Korea. Pay to play is pretty rare in Korea nowadays. Many companies expect this to be the standard in the west as well at some point.
The poor quality of the game is what killed it from the get go, it wasn't WoW, it wasn't pricing schemes, it wasn't black helicopters circling overhead, it wasn't worldwide conspiracies, or any other lame excuses as to why it didn't do well.
Here I simply call BS because thats what it is. Anyone remember the PayPlus program they scrapped at the end of beta? Ya know the one where you could PAY EXTRA on top of the monthly fee for increased XP and the like? Hmmmm, that doesn't sound like an pre-cursor for the no pay pricing model........
They went F2P because the game is badly designed and nobody wanted to play it, end of story.
It switched from a pay to play model to a free to play modes to what I believe are two reasons:
Naturaly, the game didn't do to well. The servers were on few pretty much all the time.
Making it a free model would work because the game was build with that payment model in mind (or rather, its been updated with that model in mind shortly after release in korea). Its also the new standard in Korea. Pay to play is pretty rare in Korea nowadays. Many companies expect this to be the standard in the west as well at some point.
The poor quality of the game is what killed it from the get go, it wasn't WoW, it wasn't pricing schemes, it wasn't black helicopters circling overhead, it wasn't worldwide conspiracies, or any other lame excuses as to why it didn't do well.
Here I simply call BS because thats what it is. Anyone remember the PayPlus program they scrapped at the end of beta? Ya know the one where you could PAY EXTRA on top of the monthly fee for increased XP and the like? Hmmmm, that doesn't sound like an pre-cursor for the no pay pricing model........
They went F2P because the game is badly designed and nobody wanted to play it, end of story. Actually, we see many good games doing poorly. Saga of Ryzom anyone? that its poor quality is merely your opinion. .
You may call it bullshut as much as you like, in all regions the game is free to play, obviously development worked to that. PlayPLUS has nothing to do with that, why do you even bring that up in the first place? Also, To make sure you get your facts right, you could purchase the increased exp even with the 10$ fee (the lowest one)
It switched from a pay to play model to a free to play modes to what I believe are two reasons:
Naturaly, the game didn't do to well. The servers were on few pretty much all the time.
Making it a free model would work because the game was build with that payment model in mind (or rather, its been updated with that model in mind shortly after release in korea). Its also the new standard in Korea. Pay to play is pretty rare in Korea nowadays. Many companies expect this to be the standard in the west as well at some point.
The poor quality of the game is what killed it from the get go, it wasn't WoW, it wasn't pricing schemes, it wasn't black helicopters circling overhead, it wasn't worldwide conspiracies, or any other lame excuses as to why it didn't do well.
Here I simply call BS because thats what it is. Anyone remember the PayPlus program they scrapped at the end of beta? Ya know the one where you could PAY EXTRA on top of the monthly fee for increased XP and the like? Hmmmm, that doesn't sound like an pre-cursor for the no pay pricing model........
They went F2P because the game is badly designed and nobody wanted to play it, end of story. Actually, we see many good games doing poorly. Saga of Ryzom anyone? that its poor quality is merely your opinion. .
You may call it bullshut as much as you like, in all regions the game is free to play, obviously development worked to that. PlayPLUS has nothing to do with that, why do you even bring that up in the first place? Also, To make sure you get your facts right, you could purchase the increased exp even with the 10$ fee (the lowest one)
Archlord is a badly done MMO.
Sure thats my opinion, it also happens to be the opinion of almost everyone who tried it, it's also the opinion of everyone who's given it a review. Coincidence??? I think not.
Yeah I call BS. There was no plans for F2P until they launched and the game tanked and they scrambled for a way to get people onto empty servers.
Is $39.99 less than $0.00?
Is $19.99 less than $0.00?
Is even $9.99 less than $0.00?
So please explain how they had plans to let some players pay more than the standard 14.99 a month for extra xp when they planned to go F2P down the road sometime??? You can twist and warp that all you like but they really thought they could sucker some players into paying $40.00 a month for this now free game!!! ROFLMAO
Yeah thats right, heres their little pricing scheme from Stratics www.stratics.com/content/portals/archlord/content/info/playplus.php
They ditched that program towards the end of Beta when the feedback from players was
A) players were really NOT interested in a tiered payment plan
So yeah, I guess PayPlus had EVERYTHING to do with that, which would be the reason I brought it up.
LMAO! You're the last person who should be telling anyone to get their facts straight when you spin everything and spout lame excuse after lame excuse to anything negative said about this game. Tell me, was there some hidden pricing plan known only to you and CM to charge nothing for nothing? Because really I'd like to hear how someone could get 'extra' of anything when they were at the lowest pay scale of $10 to begin with.
Really I could care less if you like the game or not but your feeble attempts to convince people this game is being misrepresented with all the bad PR and player feedback is ludacris at best.
So in conclusion, again,
They went F2P because the game is badly designed and nobody wanted to play it, end of story.
Feel free to take your time trying to spin a reply to that, I won't be around again until later today.
It switched from a pay to play model to a free to play modes to what I believe are two reasons:
Naturaly, the game didn't do to well. The servers were on few pretty much all the time.
Making it a free model would work because the game was build with that payment model in mind (or rather, its been updated with that model in mind shortly after release in korea). Its also the new standard in Korea. Pay to play is pretty rare in Korea nowadays. Many companies expect this to be the standard in the west as well at some point.
The poor quality of the game is what killed it from the get go, it wasn't WoW, it wasn't pricing schemes, it wasn't black helicopters circling overhead, it wasn't worldwide conspiracies, or any other lame excuses as to why it didn't do well.
Here I simply call BS because thats what it is. Anyone remember the PayPlus program they scrapped at the end of beta? Ya know the one where you could PAY EXTRA on top of the monthly fee for increased XP and the like? Hmmmm, that doesn't sound like an pre-cursor for the no pay pricing model........
They went F2P because the game is badly designed and nobody wanted to play it, end of story. Actually, we see many good games doing poorly. Saga of Ryzom anyone? that its poor quality is merely your opinion. .
You may call it bullshut as much as you like, in all regions the game is free to play, obviously development worked to that. PlayPLUS has nothing to do with that, why do you even bring that up in the first place? Also, To make sure you get your facts right, you could purchase the increased exp even with the 10$ fee (the lowest one)
Archlord is a badly done MMO.
Sure thats my opinion, it also happens to be the opinion of almost everyone who tried it, it's also the opinion of everyone who's given it a review. Coincidence??? I think not.
Thats odd, since ArchLord is filling up nicely right now. Reviews? oh wait, you mean those reviews about the first 20 levels of the game? out of the100 levels?
Yeah I call BS. There was no plans for F2P until they launched and the game tanked and they scrambled for a way to get people onto empty servers.
Is $39.99 less than $0.00?
Is $19.99 less than $0.00?
Is even $9.99 less than $0.00?
So please explain how they had plans to let some players pay more than the standard 14.99 a month for extra xp when they planned to go F2P down the road sometime??? You can twist and warp that all you like but they really thought they could sucker some players into paying $40.00 a month for this now free game!!! ROFLMAO
Yeah thats right, heres their little pricing scheme from Stratics www.stratics.com/content/portals/archlord/content/info/playplus.php
They ditched that program towards the end of Beta when the feedback from players was
A) players were really NOT interested in a tiered payment plan
So yeah, I guess PayPlus had EVERYTHING to do with that, which would be the reason I brought it up.
LMAO! You're the last person who should be telling anyone to get their facts straight when you spin everything and spout lame excuse after lame excuse to anything negative said about this game. Tell me, was there some hidden pricing plan known only to you and CM to charge nothing for nothing? Because really I'd like to hear how someone could get 'extra' of anything when they were at the lowest pay scale of $10 to begin with.
Ah, that is how it is, you didn't do any research! For your information, The game is developed in Korea, where the game has been avaible for quite some time now, and , ArchLord Korea has been using an item shop model since shortly after launch. Naturaly, the game has been developed with that payment plan in mind. PayPlus was introduced because that could ALSO work very well with how the game was developed. The community, however, didn't agree with this plan, and Codemasters actually listens to its customers and removed it. It was switched to a standard payment model, and after that to a free to play model with an item shop. The PlayPLUS system was actually NEVER put into the game, so I don't really understand why you bring it up? And Please point out where I didn't stick to the facts, since I'm pretty sure I DID stay to the facts.
Really I could care less if you like the game or not but your feeble attempts to convince people this game is being misrepresented with all the bad PR and player feedback is ludacris at best.
So in conclusion, again,
They went F2P because the game is badly designed and nobody wanted to play it, end of story.
Feel free to take your time trying to spin a reply to that, I won't be around again until later today.
Oh don't worry, I'm not really looking forward to it. We have been getting "ArchLord sucks blabla" topics since release or, you get used to it.
Yah, if people put as much time into trying the game as they do arguing, they'd at least make sense when they make their opinions known. 99% of the opinions are not based on fact, just conjecture.
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stop being such fanbois - especially gameloading.. jesus, just let it go...you like the game.. YAY for you...
you are the MINORITY... deal with it.. After reading your myriad of posts about this game, its apparent.. this game still sucks, and you are still touting its greatness from BETA. If its so great, why are people leaving faster then from a fart in an elevator?
Wow there are 40 new people.. thats not anything to be proud of.. 40 members is a miniscule amount, not even worth the time it took you to type it... now 4000, thats an eyecatching number - but even with the free dload, the free month, etc, this game cannot even get that. There has to be a reason...like the overall quality of the game.
The majority of players that tried/bought/played this game looked at it, found it wanting, and deleted it. Thats facts.. thus the game is free now... and still a waste of space.
stop being such fanbois - especially gameloading.. jesus, just let it go...you like the game.. YAY for you...
you are the MINORITY... deal with it.. After reading your myriad of posts about this game, its apparent.. this game still sucks, and you are still touting its greatness from BETA. If its so great, why are people leaving faster then from a fart in an elevator?
Wow there are 40 new people.. thats not anything to be proud of.. 40 members is a miniscule amount, not even worth the time it took you to type it... now 4000, thats an eyecatching number - but even with the free dload, the free month, etc, this game cannot even get that. There has to be a reason...like the overall quality of the game.
The majority of players that tried/bought/played this game looked at it, found it wanting, and deleted it. Thats facts.. thus the game is free now... and still a waste of space.
So your saying that I, a fan of the game, should "drop it" and let it go, but for those that dislike the game its okay to say the game sucks and blabla over and over again? Double standards?
Also, People aren't leaving faster then a fart in an elevator. In fact, if you actually played the game, You would have known that the playerbase is INCREASING. Ofcourse I know I'm in the Minority, thats not even the point, I never denied that. In fact, its something I have always said right from the start. Its NOT a game for everyone.
I don't think a low playerbase says anything about the quality of the game either. Look at auto assault, it received some pretty good scores, yet its one of the most underpopulated MMORPG's out there. Look at Asherons call, Look at the Saga of ryzom.