Originally posted by DrunkDog Originally posted by CaptainRPG
1. I've played the trial 3 times and made it to the end within 7 the second time. The game is fun when you play with other people.
2. Productive? This forum is productive? This forum is full bias opinions. There is nothing productive about BIAS opinions. Yes, the game is fun when you play with other people. I don't see why you are complaining so much about a game you just admit you had fun playing. If you can't find other people (which I find highly unlikely), that's not a problem with the game itself, but the lack of people playing.
I meant do something productive with your time, rather than bash a game. Dude, I had no problem finding a party, but the you come to learn that you are nothing more than a tool to the party and that every dungeon is the same thing over and over again. The bad graphics and lack of content outside of dungeon crawling didn't help either.
Ditto for praising the game. When I read reviews, I read both the good and bad reviews to give me an idea of what to expect because as an adult, I know everything isn't 100% good.
I don't know how anyone can say every dungeon is the same thing over and over again. One quest you're outside fighting giants and minotaurs. The next you're inside fighting fire reavers and clerics and need to disable fire traps that kill you in two seconds. The next you're hunting a vampire. The next you're doing a five-part dragon quest, with each part completely different than the others. The next you're in DDO's version of Oriental Adventures.
Powerlevelers may run the same few dungeons over and over, but that doesn't mean other dungeons and quests don't exist.
WoW is a big world, requiring running, running, and more running, which has both its good points and its bad points, but compared to DDO's quests and instances, WoW's quests and instances are a joke.
And bad graphics? Yah. I'm running WoW at 1600x1200 with everything maxed, and it looks like DDO with medium textures and a lower resolution. Compare a dwarf in WoW to a dwarf in DDO. WoW's dwarf belongs on a Saturday morning cartoon show.
Anyone who complains about the graphics clearly has a poor system. Anyone who complains about the repetition hasn't played other MMOs. Anyone who thinks the official forums aren't full of sad social misfits who are allowed free reign hasn't been to the official boards.
And now that you have said your peice CaptainRPG (and by the way, that has got to be the most pretentious name I have ever heard) Why are you so determined to keep this fight going? You said your peice, you don't like DDO, move on. I didn't like it either and was very disappointted by it, because D&D was the first RPG I ever played. But, you don't see me in here trying to prove to the people that like the game that it sux. Move on with your life and find somethjing productive to do.
And now that you have said your peice CaptainRPG (and by the way, that has got to be the most pretentious name I have ever heard) Why are you so determined to keep this fight going? You said your peice, you don't like DDO, move on. I didn't like it either and was very disappointted by it, because D&D was the first RPG I ever played. But, you don't see me in here trying to prove to the people that like the game that it sux. Move on with your life and find somethjing productive to do.
I can only stand in awe at the irony of this statement.
We have came to see in all DDO treds a sertain person (i will not tell the name but all people here is realy tired to see his posts). This treds have no porpose, from a person that have done this game trial, and clame he doest like it. It´s fine to me, but this guy is working on a demand prove that thiis game is wortless to all gamers.Telling invalid points, wrong assumptions, problems that dont exist. This guy doest even wasted any money on this game, to be so extremist like he is. Please go waste your time on your actual game forums.
Well, to be honest, when I saw the post regarding 'has ddo improved' and people were making positive comments, I knew it was a matter of time before he popped in to change the course of the thread, as usual, he is very predictable!
The guy has issues with himself, not DDO, that much is clear!
Dude, you have issue with yourself seeing as you are in denial that more people hate this game than like it. The people who don't like seeing me post is you and Warcry. These boards rarely move except when we get into arguments. Look at the other boards within this DDO forum and you see this game is bad that even players who like this game rarely post. So don't pin me for the source of all evil on this board.
you say that more people hate this game then like it.. yet you have no facts to back it up... Why not state facts.. post links to articles.. PROOVE your facts and someone might believe you. Till then you are just blowing hot air with no basis for the truth. Slamming individuals saying they are in denial, well it seems the person in denial is you.
You spout that you have played the game.. yet you quote your so called freind. I think you either need to move on.. or play the game or find some proof backing up your so called facts and such. Moving on might be a better suggestion though
I have recently started playing DDO again. (As of last night) so I can't speak a lot about the game. But I think most of the bad rap comes from the launch and from it being instanced. As far as the lacks content people, it sure doesn't do that anymore. Matter of fact some people on the official boards are actually calling for Turbine to slow down on content releases (I can't understand that myself but hey)
I went to boards, just now and they say different. A lot of whining and they act like the WoW players do.
That does not say much for you being a WoW player then.
We have came to see in all DDO treds a sertain person (i will not tell the name but all people here is realy tired to see his posts). This treds have no porpose, from a person that have done this game trial, and clame he doest like it. It´s fine to me, but this guy is working on a demand prove that thiis game is wortless to all gamers.Telling invalid points, wrong assumptions, problems that dont exist. This guy doest even wasted any money on this game, to be so extremist like he is. Please go waste your time on your actual game forums.
Well, to be honest, when I saw the post regarding 'has ddo improved' and people were making positive comments, I knew it was a matter of time before he popped in to change the course of the thread, as usual, he is very predictable!
The guy has issues with himself, not DDO, that much is clear!
Dude, you have issue with yourself seeing as you are in denial that more people hate this game than like it. The people who don't like seeing me post is you and Warcry. These boards rarely move except when we get into arguments. Look at the other boards within this DDO forum and you see this game is bad that even players who like this game rarely post. So don't pin me for the source of all evil on this board.
you say that more people hate this game then like it.. yet you have no facts to back it up...
Look through the board, son. And there is another DDO forums that went dead a long time ago. They are 5 or 6 people who still post there and they have nothing nice to say about the game.
Tried DDO twice now, once when it came out and again recently. The graphics for the game are very well done and the way the dungeons are created are well thought out and enjoyable when you have a good group. You have character class customisation to a degree aswell which is better than the average this is your class off you go, you get X skill at X level.
Overall I think DDO is a good game, but and there is always a but, I do not like the enforced grouping to get that fun factor, occasionaly you can end up with a dudd group or a few players in the group who are pains and that spoils it.
The lack of an outside enviroment to explore also does it for me, I like to wander around and encounter and find things, not be restricted to a dungeon, or mini quests in a small enviroment. Basically the variety is not there to keep my attention, you do dungeons and that is it, I say again though I do think the dungeons are well done.
Now I saw earlier you said the graphics were rubbish, that is so untrue, I found the graphics excellent, for the chars, dungeons, city, spell effects etc, maybe you had your graphics on the lowest settings ? because I did not see rubbish graphics.
For me, the graphics were good and the armor designs were terrible. I remember watching the Lord of the Rings making on my DvD and I remember Richard Taylor saying that when he was designing the armors and clothing that he believes every community has to have a culture. DDO and most DnD games I played in the past, lack a culture.
The characters wear assorted clothing and the armor look like pieces of junk put together. The character designs weren't well designed as I can tell by anatonomy, I can't put my finger on it, but the animation and 3D enivornment didn't seem right at all. I basing my analogy on past console games I've played. I mean we've come so far in both technology and 3D art, yet Turbine had the nerve to give us character animations like this.
The dungeons were okay for the first couple of dungeons, but as you starting doing the quests in the marketplace, things get real repetitive, I didn't do much except press Tab all day. I did press other buttons to use Trip, Sunder and the occasional position. Many people say the game is very involving, yet I didn't feel like I was apart of the game at all. Worse of all, my Fighter lacked skills or techniques to be fun to play with.
Instead of adding new material that would make the game more fun, Turbine seems to determined to keep making more dungeons that in my opinion are all the same. Turbine should take the time and redesign what they have before going any further. They should also focus on making the DnD rules work for the game.
For me, the graphics were good and the armor designs were terrible. I remember watching the Lord of the Rings making on my DvD and I remember Richard Taylor saying that when he was designing the armors and clothing that he believes every community has to have a culture. DDO and most DnD games I played in the past, lack a culture.
The characters wear assorted clothing and the armor look like pieces of junk put together. The character designs weren't well designed as I can tell by anatonomy, I can't put my finger on it, but the animation and 3D enivornment didn't seem right at all. I basing my analogy on past console games I've played. I mean we've come so far in both technology and 3D art, yet Turbine had the nerve to give us character animations like this.
The dungeons were okay for the first couple of dungeons, but as you starting doing the quests in the marketplace, things get real repetitive, I didn't do much except press Tab all day. I did press other buttons to use Trip, Sunder and the occasional position. Many people say the game is very involving, yet I didn't feel like I was apart of the game at all. Worse of all, my Fighter lacked skills or techniques to be fun to play with.
Instead of adding new material that would make the game more fun, Turbine seems to determined to keep making more dungeons that in my opinion are all the same. Turbine should take the time and redesign what they have before going any further. They should also focus on making the DnD rules work for the game.
So, how would you have implemented the 900+ pages that comprise the DnD rules and adapted them for online play?
You must not leave until you free Arlos and have gathered your party safely in this hallway.
You cannot convert a boardgame into a video games. They might as well abandon the whole game rather than give us less than nothing.
I read CaptainRPGs friend's list and one of the things that stuck out was imagine. Games should be about image then gameplay. One of things I liked about LOTR was that Richard Taylor went to great length to establish a culture for that world. Why couldn't DDO do the same thing? If I could do graphics, I would establish beautiful 3D art.
Since Turbine was unable to implement the DnD rules, it would have only made sense to use the images and create their own game from the world already provide for them. Years ago, during the 90s, Capcom created a DnD arcade game. They use the DnD imagine and name, but created a new game basing their ideas on the original game. The game was RPG-beate'em, but it was still DnD.
I'm not saying Turbine should make the same exact game, but rather they should have went the route of Capcom and used DnD images and names, but make an entire newly different game while basing it on that world. Personally, I would add elements from console games like Zelda, Shadow Colossus, Prince of Persia, etc. to give the players more abilities and flexibility. To go into detail about how I woudl adapt DnD into mmorpg would take along time.
I think DDO has done well with the converting of rules, but I must admit i didnt like the core DnD rules before. I hated games like baldurs gate, NWN etc, most because of the magic system. Im not a former DnD player, im a palladium books player
Conserning graphics.... The armours, which people complain about , look nice enough to me. yes, its a one piece armour and multiple piece armour looks better. But, with more pieces of armour means more magic buffs to the player, which im against! we have enough items buffs as it is. For the record...i think the graphics look very nice and for me the lag is more or less non-existing.
Culture varity i dont understand. its one city we play in, and the armours/weapons/items are made by the smiths of Stormreach. (i dont know this, but it sounds logical ) And for me there is enoght console game refrences ingame already. last part of Vault of the Night 4 anyone?
I love the graphics in DDO. It is my understanding that the hi-res textures are only on the DVD version? I can tell the difference on my main PC with them installed and on my laptop where I didn't install them. I for sure don't mind the one piece armor.
Go to EQ2 where dye isn't available and see the multi colored people running around from different armor types on.
You cannot convert a boardgame into a video games. They might as well abandon the whole game rather than give us less than nothing.
I read CaptainRPGs friend's list and one of the things that stuck out was imagine. Games should be about image then gameplay. One of things I liked about LOTR was that Richard Taylor went to great length to establish a culture for that world. Why couldn't DDO do the same thing? If I could do graphics, I would establish beautiful 3D art.
Since Turbine was unable to implement the DnD rules, it would have only made sense to use the images and create their own game from the world already provide for them. Years ago, during the 90s, Capcom created a DnD arcade game. They use the DnD imagine and name, but created a new game basing their ideas on the original game. The game was RPG-beate'em, but it was still DnD.
I'm not saying Turbine should make the same exact game, but rather they should have went the route of Capcom and used DnD images and names, but make an entire newly different game while basing it on that world. Personally, I would add elements from console games like Zelda, Shadow Colossus, Prince of Persia, etc. to give the players more abilities and flexibility. To go into detail about how I woudl adapt DnD into mmorpg would take along time.
You seem very taken with CaptainRPG, hmmm.........I wonder why? My spider sense has tingled from the moment you started posting......!
You must not leave until you free Arlos and have gathered your party safely in this hallway.
You cannot convert a boardgame into a video games. They might as well abandon the whole game rather than give us less than nothing.
I read CaptainRPGs friend's list and one of the things that stuck out was imagine. Games should be about image then gameplay. One of things I liked about LOTR was that Richard Taylor went to great length to establish a culture for that world. Why couldn't DDO do the same thing? If I could do graphics, I would establish beautiful 3D art.
Since Turbine was unable to implement the DnD rules, it would have only made sense to use the images and create their own game from the world already provide for them. Years ago, during the 90s, Capcom created a DnD arcade game. They use the DnD imagine and name, but created a new game basing their ideas on the original game. The game was RPG-beate'em, but it was still DnD.
I'm not saying Turbine should make the same exact game, but rather they should have went the route of Capcom and used DnD images and names, but make an entire newly different game while basing it on that world. Personally, I would add elements from console games like Zelda, Shadow Colossus, Prince of Persia, etc. to give the players more abilities and flexibility. To go into detail about how I woudl adapt DnD into mmorpg would take along time.
You seem very taken with CaptainRPG, hmmm.........I wonder why? My spider sense has tingled from the moment you started posting......!
Thank you, I was waiting for someone to say it first. I agree, seems like we might have stumbled upon the Captains alter-ego.
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Oh, because I agree with certain points that CaptainRPG makes or I try to make peace in the forums, you automatically assume, I'm RPG. Fine then I won't come back, you guys keep obsessing over this RPG guy when he hasn't even posted here for like five days or so.
Well lets see, grammer pretty much matches. Commas, periods etc etc... Ah here is something, both from Jacksonville, FL or as the other one says, J-ville.
If you two are not the same person then Cap I think you found your soulmate.
Hehe.. even tho it should turn out that Lastera is a friend or even is Crpg himself, does it matter? Lasteras post are just questioning the game, not lying about it. I like your posts Lastera (cept for the "save us" attempt) and would like tohave you around here. If it werent for the skeptics, the DDO section would slumber hehe.
Oh my goodness. Other players I met in DDO when I played three weeks ago in the game were also from Florida. I've also met people on myspace who were from J-ville. If you're going to assume everyone whose from my state or my hometown is RPG then you're just being ridiculous. I just going to report Sevenwind for harassment because I don't want to be associated with someone else on this board. I appreciated if you keep you thoughts to yourself. Stop using RPG as a means to an end or to justify your reason for harassing and trolling people.
By the way, your grammar is none to nice either Sevenwind. I'm just going back to Vanguard forum. Some of you guys are just obsessed that RPG as being a boogieman. I'm unsubscribing to these forums.
By all means if you feel I caused you mental anguish then report, report.
And go ahead correct my grammer all you want. I'm not majoring in it so go right ahead. I was simply comparing the the way you write with ol' Cap and it was similar.
And please! This is like the third or fourth time you said you were done with the DDO forums and were leaving. Stop teasing!!!
Actually I don't care, stay, go, post, flame, whatever. It was actually more fun when CaptainRPG posted cause he got discredited everytime it was actually a fun read.
I think the thing is that your postings are very, very Cap'n RPGish. And while it is reasonable that you might also be from Jacksonville and in no way related to the ole' Cap'n. It is hard to believe that you would be from that town (not a big place), and start posting to the forums right at the point and time you did all of the sudden when the Captain disappeared. Not to mention that you make it a point to bring up his name in almost all of your postings like he is some hero. I think that is all that we were thinking. Just strange. Doesn't mean that you aren't a totally seperate person in no way related to him. It's just that the time sure is strange.
Even if you are the Cap'n (not saying that you are) at least your postings are a bit more civil than those of the Caps.
But surely if you were the Cap'n (not saying that you are), but if you were I would at least hope that you would be smart enough to use a different network to post from as IPs are logged for each post.
I don't mind anti-DDO postings. What bugs me is when someone pulls facts out of thin air. Haven't seen you do that yet, so you are still cool in my book. Do I agree with you, hell no. DDO isn't any more repetative than any other MMO that I have played. And I surely don't see it doing badly. The server I mainly play on Fernia always has a ton of people at all levels and almost always has groups looking for players. Also it doesn't bother me since I realize you have only played a few levels, thus you really don't know enough to speak on the entire game. So stick around. Bring up valid points and we will respect you. Start making up stuff and claiming outright stupid stuff like RPG did on his Titan claim and such, then be prepared for people to correct you. So far you haven't done that. Just don't make it your personal goal to make all DDO players look like kids and stupid and we can all be friends.
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Oh my goodness. Other players I met in DDO when I played three weeks ago in the game were also from Florida. I've also met people on myspace who were from J-ville. If you're going to assume everyone whose from my state or my hometown is RPG then you're just being ridiculous. I just going to report Sevenwind for harassment because I don't want to be associated with someone else on this board. I appreciated if you keep you thoughts to yourself. Stop using RPG as a means to an end or to justify your reason for harassing and trolling people.
By the way, your grammar is none to nice either Sevenwind. I'm just going back to Vanguard forum. Some of you guys are just obsessed that RPG as being a boogieman. I'm unsubscribing to these forums.
The problem is my dear, you are yet another person who feels that they are suddenly an expert on a game because they have played a trial.
D&D is not a 'board' game, it's an interactive role playing game, you make it sound like snakes and ladders!
People like you and the cap (if you are seperate entities) feel Turbine have not implemented the D&D rules to the letter etc, you never quote these rules that are broken etc. And through all of this, you forget one of the most important rules, which I will quote for you now from page 14 of the dungeon masters guide which just happens to be on my lap.
'Beyond simply adjudicating , sometimes you are going to want to change things. That's okay.' Basically, the DM can change the rules for the circumstances in which the game is being played. In DDO, Turbine is the DM!
It's also not very nice to go telling the Vanguard forums that we are all 'idiots' on the DDO boards either.
Oh, should you want to complain more about the poor armour designs, the way the world looks etc, look thru the pictures in the 3 rulebooks, Turbine have done a fantastic job with the look, if you want to blame anyone because it does not look how you like, then I suggest you contact Wizards of the Coast, D&D is not a 'shiny happy people', coca cola advert fashion parade! If people want to dress up, I am sure there is a Barbie game out there somewhere!
You must not leave until you free Arlos and have gathered your party safely in this hallway.
'kay first of all i wish to tell you guys im not that kind of guy who usually posts or reads forums, but i just get to know DDO like a week ago and tought i will check in here before i buy the game. Yes i will buy! Why? Cos its just great!
Why are you ppl complaining and swearing about some noobs who just simply cant understand ADD and wants to ruin this game? There will be always ppl who cant and dont even want to understand a little more complex, lore based fantasy game... Why bother? Just let them go and play childish junks like WoW...
DDO is a nice game, im currently playing on Lyrandar server and except the ppl like those who started these arguments on these forums (and they're usually on trial, so not real part of the community) the community is nice, i've met lots of good ppl who can actually talk and help you and give you stuff to make it easyer to start the game as a noob, etc. The graphics, well i pretty much like it, looks better than wow or eq2, and actually i cant even agree on the stuff looks bad cos it doesnt! Like if you wish to wear +3 Fullplate, there are lots of it and not all of them looks the same, sooner or later you will find the one you do like, and that applyes to everything not only armors, there are weapons etc. etc. with the same stats and different looks. And dont tell me its bcos there are 5 type of items and 15 type of graphical models, cos they just simply cant make kewl items with kewl stats cos thats not right either... There are lots of items, ohh but why i complain about the looks of my char anyways? If you care for your looks so much then go play secondlife or sims online or something like that, not a combat based RPG...
Characters well, they're pretty much customizable, its not like in wow where u got 2 level 60 hunters with exactly the same spells and skills and exactly the same epic gear cos Blizz makes everyone wear the same class-sets wich are über boring to get... Ohh ye, you have talents wooow great, one of them got +1,5% for something that the other doesnt, great difference just great! Ohh man thats a joke! In DDO you do have many ways to build a character of the same class, thanks to most of the classes are capable of more playstyles, and there are the feats and everything... You cant have them all like in most of the other games, only a few of them wich makes you unique, stronger in something, and weaker in something else... And yeah hell i didnt even speak about multiclassing! Repetitive huh? lets see... You do a quest once on normal or solo, then maybe again with a group on elite or hard, but u dont do quests more than 3-4 times at all, and hell they arent boring! Whats better? WoW?? Where u do the same instances countless times without actual quests at all, just for something to drop with 0,0000000000000000000000001% chace?? lol!
CSR is bad? are they?? o really? wow then why did a dungeonmaster reply my stuck group in 15-20sec and helped us in another 20-30 sec? Lets come with wow again, there u will have to wait hours for your ticket to be opened, and yet nothing happened, its just opened, when its already too late ofc... Why i always take examples from wow, well cos thats the game most of the ppl know (thanks to millions of subscribers) and with that i can can show the most, in how many ways this game is actually better than others...
Thats right Turbine has modifyed ADD but hey they had to and they've done it right! Think some, you cant have an mmorpg running with real turn based combat and all those DC AC etc. rolls... The game does them automatically, and you can read them in the log if you want to but the combat is speeded up to make it playable as an mmo, thats all and its right as it is. Its instanced a lot, but as it doesnt blocks me from decently interacting with players, i dont think thats a problem at all...
Yes im still on trial (got lvl6 ranger and lvl3 cleric this far), yes i dont know much about DDO cos i've only played a week, but i know ADD/D&D and have played with Icewind Dale, Bladurs Gate, Neverwinter Nights... I know how DDO works and im happy there is a game like that out there, and i dont care how much aggressively some ppl try to make me feel this game sux, they wont succeed!
Ye and i was swearing etc, just go on report me, i dont rlly care...
all the people that dont like DDo are prolly still playing SWG & level 100 WoW. you want repeats play wow see what level u can get to by killing a few wolves and stuff or do the same quest but just a different quest giver. or same quests giver different varition kill 4 spiders insted of the previous quest of 2. Graphics totaly awsome theres even some times when you have to turn your graphics down because you cant see the switches. out of all the MMos i have played there is only one were i have been satisfied with character creation and that was CoV CoH they are the best all mmos take a leaf out of NCsofts book. DDO is still going strong and will do so for a while. with all the content there are releasing youl never get board.....all you people who moaned did you ever face the dragon??? the titan???? wishperdoom??? in fact did you even beat delarers?
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2. Productive? This forum is productive? This forum is full bias opinions. There is nothing productive about BIAS opinions.
Yes,
the game is fun when you play with other people. I don't see why
you are complaining so much about a game you just admit you had fun
playing. If you can't find other people (which I find highly
unlikely), that's not a problem with the game itself, but the lack of
people playing.
I meant do something productive with your time, rather than bash a game.
Dude, I had no problem finding a party, but the you come to learn that
you are nothing more than a tool to the party and that every dungeon is
the same thing over and over again. The bad graphics and lack of
content outside of dungeon crawling didn't help either.
Ditto
for praising the game. When I read reviews, I read both the good and
bad reviews to give me an idea of what to expect because as an adult, I
know everything isn't 100% good.
I don't know how anyone can say every dungeon is the same thing over and over again. One quest you're outside fighting giants and minotaurs. The next you're inside fighting fire reavers and clerics and need to disable fire traps that kill you in two seconds. The next you're hunting a vampire. The next you're doing a five-part dragon quest, with each part completely different than the others. The next you're in DDO's version of Oriental Adventures.
Powerlevelers may run the same few dungeons over and over, but that doesn't mean other dungeons and quests don't exist.
WoW is a big world, requiring running, running, and more running, which has both its good points and its bad points, but compared to DDO's quests and instances, WoW's quests and instances are a joke.
And bad graphics? Yah. I'm running WoW at 1600x1200 with everything maxed, and it looks like DDO with medium textures and a lower resolution. Compare a dwarf in WoW to a dwarf in DDO. WoW's dwarf belongs on a Saturday morning cartoon show.
And now that you have said your peice CaptainRPG (and by the way, that has got to be the most pretentious name I have ever heard) Why are you so determined to keep this fight going? You said your peice, you don't like DDO, move on. I didn't like it either and was very disappointted by it, because D&D was the first RPG I ever played. But, you don't see me in here trying to prove to the people that like the game that it sux. Move on with your life and find somethjing productive to do.
Well, to be honest, when I saw the post regarding 'has ddo improved' and people were making positive comments, I knew it was a matter of time before he popped in to change the course of the thread, as usual, he is very predictable!
The guy has issues with himself, not DDO, that much is clear!
Dude, you have issue with yourself seeing as you are in denial that more people hate this game than like it. The people who don't like seeing me post is you and Warcry. These boards rarely move except when we get into arguments. Look at the other boards within this DDO forum and you see this game is bad that even players who like this game rarely post. So don't pin me for the source of all evil on this board.
you say that more people hate this game then like it.. yet you have no facts to back it up... Why not state facts.. post links to articles.. PROOVE your facts and someone might believe you. Till then you are just blowing hot air with no basis for the truth. Slamming individuals saying they are in denial, well it seems the person in denial is you.
You spout that you have played the game.. yet you quote your so called freind. I think you either need to move on.. or play the game or find some proof backing up your so called facts and such. Moving on might be a better suggestion though
That does not say much for you being a WoW player then.
Well, to be honest, when I saw the post regarding 'has ddo improved' and people were making positive comments, I knew it was a matter of time before he popped in to change the course of the thread, as usual, he is very predictable!
The guy has issues with himself, not DDO, that much is clear!
Dude, you have issue with yourself seeing as you are in denial that more people hate this game than like it. The people who don't like seeing me post is you and Warcry. These boards rarely move except when we get into arguments. Look at the other boards within this DDO forum and you see this game is bad that even players who like this game rarely post. So don't pin me for the source of all evil on this board.
you say that more people hate this game then like it.. yet you have no facts to back it up...
Look through the board, son. And there is another DDO forums that went dead a long time ago. They are 5 or 6 people who still post there and they have nothing nice to say about the game.
Tried DDO twice now, once when it came out and again recently. The graphics for the game are very well done and the way the dungeons are created are well thought out and enjoyable when you have a good group. You have character class customisation to a degree aswell which is better than the average this is your class off you go, you get X skill at X level.
Overall I think DDO is a good game, but and there is always a but, I do not like the enforced grouping to get that fun factor, occasionaly you can end up with a dudd group or a few players in the group who are pains and that spoils it.
The lack of an outside enviroment to explore also does it for me, I like to wander around and encounter and find things, not be restricted to a dungeon, or mini quests in a small enviroment. Basically the variety is not there to keep my attention, you do dungeons and that is it, I say again though I do think the dungeons are well done.
Now I saw earlier you said the graphics were rubbish, that is so untrue, I found the graphics excellent, for the chars, dungeons, city, spell effects etc, maybe you had your graphics on the lowest settings ? because I did not see rubbish graphics.
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Finglin
The characters wear assorted clothing and the armor look like pieces of junk put together. The character designs weren't well designed as I can tell by anatonomy, I can't put my finger on it, but the animation and 3D enivornment didn't seem right at all. I basing my analogy on past console games I've played. I mean we've come so far in both technology and 3D art, yet Turbine had the nerve to give us character animations like this.
The dungeons were okay for the first couple of dungeons, but as you starting doing the quests in the marketplace, things get real repetitive, I didn't do much except press Tab all day. I did press other buttons to use Trip, Sunder and the occasional position. Many people say the game is very involving, yet I didn't feel like I was apart of the game at all. Worse of all, my Fighter lacked skills or techniques to be fun to play with.
Instead of adding new material that would make the game more fun, Turbine seems to determined to keep making more dungeons that in my opinion are all the same. Turbine should take the time and redesign what they have before going any further. They should also focus on making the DnD rules work for the game.
You must not leave until you free Arlos and have gathered your party safely in this hallway.
I read CaptainRPGs friend's list and one of the things that stuck out was imagine. Games should be about image then gameplay. One of things I liked about LOTR was that Richard Taylor went to great length to establish a culture for that world. Why couldn't DDO do the same thing? If I could do graphics, I would establish beautiful 3D art.
Since Turbine was unable to implement the DnD rules, it would have only made sense to use the images and create their own game from the world already provide for them. Years ago, during the 90s, Capcom created a DnD arcade game. They use the DnD imagine and name, but created a new game basing their ideas on the original game. The game was RPG-beate'em, but it was still DnD.
Dungeons and Dragon Arcade Website:
http://www.fantasyanime.com/valhalla/ddarcade.htm
Movie Clip:
http://www.fantasyanime.com/valhalla/ddsom_characters-high.wmv
I'm not saying Turbine should make the same exact game, but rather they should have went the route of Capcom and used DnD images and names, but make an entire newly different game while basing it on that world. Personally, I would add elements from console games like Zelda, Shadow Colossus, Prince of Persia, etc. to give the players more abilities and flexibility. To go into detail about how I woudl adapt DnD into mmorpg would take along time.
I think DDO has done well with the converting of rules, but I must admit i didnt like the core DnD rules before. I hated games like baldurs gate, NWN etc, most because of the magic system. Im not a former DnD player, im a palladium books player
Conserning graphics.... The armours, which people complain about , look nice enough to me. yes, its a one piece armour and multiple piece armour looks better. But, with more pieces of armour means more magic buffs to the player, which im against! we have enough items buffs as it is. For the record...i think the graphics look very nice and for me the lag is more or less non-existing.
Culture varity i dont understand. its one city we play in, and the armours/weapons/items are made by the smiths of Stormreach. (i dont know this, but it sounds logical
) And for me there is enoght console game refrences ingame already. last part of Vault of the Night 4 anyone?
I love the graphics in DDO. It is my understanding that the hi-res textures are only on the DVD version? I can tell the difference on my main PC with them installed and on my laptop where I didn't install them. I for sure don't mind the one piece armor.
Go to EQ2 where dye isn't available and see the multi colored people running around from different armor types on.
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You must not leave until you free Arlos and have gathered your party safely in this hallway.
Thank you, I was waiting for someone to say it first. I agree, seems like we might have stumbled upon the Captains alter-ego.
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Well lets see, grammer pretty much matches. Commas, periods etc etc... Ah here is something, both from Jacksonville, FL or as the other one says, J-ville.
If you two are not the same person then Cap I think you found your soulmate.
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Hehe.. even tho it should turn out that Lastera is a friend or even is Crpg himself, does it matter? Lasteras post are just questioning the game, not lying about it. I like your posts Lastera (cept for the "save us" attempt) and would like tohave you around here.
If it werent for the skeptics, the DDO section would slumber hehe.
on a side note... where is Captn? is he banned
By the way, your grammar is none to nice either Sevenwind. I'm just going back to Vanguard forum. Some of you guys are just obsessed that RPG as being a boogieman. I'm unsubscribing to these forums.
By all means if you feel I caused you mental anguish then report, report.
And go ahead correct my grammer all you want. I'm not majoring in it so go right ahead. I was simply comparing the the way you write with ol' Cap and it was similar.
And please! This is like the third or fourth time you said you were done with the DDO forums and were leaving. Stop teasing!!!
Actually I don't care, stay, go, post, flame, whatever. It was actually more fun when CaptainRPG posted cause he got discredited everytime it was actually a fun read.
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Even if you are the Cap'n (not saying that you are) at least your postings are a bit more civil than those of the Caps.
But surely if you were the Cap'n (not saying that you are), but if you were I would at least hope that you would be smart enough to use a different network to post from as IPs are logged for each post.
I don't mind anti-DDO postings. What bugs me is when someone pulls facts out of thin air. Haven't seen you do that yet, so you are still cool in my book. Do I agree with you, hell no. DDO isn't any more repetative than any other MMO that I have played. And I surely don't see it doing badly. The server I mainly play on Fernia always has a ton of people at all levels and almost always has groups looking for players. Also it doesn't bother me since I realize you have only played a few levels, thus you really don't know enough to speak on the entire game. So stick around. Bring up valid points and we will respect you. Start making up stuff and claiming outright stupid stuff like RPG did on his Titan claim and such, then be prepared for people to correct you. So far you haven't done that. Just don't make it your personal goal to make all DDO players look like kids and stupid and we can all be friends.
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The problem is my dear, you are yet another person who feels that they are suddenly an expert on a game because they have played a trial.
D&D is not a 'board' game, it's an interactive role playing game, you make it sound like snakes and ladders!
People like you and the cap (if you are seperate entities) feel Turbine have not implemented the D&D rules to the letter etc, you never quote these rules that are broken etc. And through all of this, you forget one of the most important rules, which I will quote for you now from page 14 of the dungeon masters guide which just happens to be on my lap.
'Beyond simply adjudicating , sometimes you are going to want to change things. That's okay.' Basically, the DM can change the rules for the circumstances in which the game is being played. In DDO, Turbine is the DM!
It's also not very nice to go telling the Vanguard forums that we are all 'idiots' on the DDO boards either.
Oh, should you want to complain more about the poor armour designs, the way the world looks etc, look thru the pictures in the 3 rulebooks, Turbine have done a fantastic job with the look, if you want to blame anyone because it does not look how you like, then I suggest you contact Wizards of the Coast, D&D is not a 'shiny happy people', coca cola advert fashion parade! If people want to dress up, I am sure there is a Barbie game out there somewhere!
You must not leave until you free Arlos and have gathered your party safely in this hallway.
Why are you ppl complaining and swearing about some noobs who just simply cant understand ADD and wants to ruin this game? There will be always ppl who cant and dont even want to understand a little more complex, lore based fantasy game... Why bother? Just let them go and play childish junks like WoW...
CSR is bad? are they?? o really? wow then why did a dungeonmaster reply my stuck group in 15-20sec and helped us in another 20-30 sec? Lets come with wow again, there u will have to wait hours for your ticket to be opened, and yet nothing happened, its just opened, when its already too late ofc... Why i always take examples from wow, well cos thats the game most of the ppl know (thanks to millions of subscribers) and with that i can can show the most, in how many ways this game is actually better than others...
Thats right Turbine has modifyed ADD but hey they had to and they've done it right! Think some, you cant have an mmorpg running with real turn based combat and all those DC AC etc. rolls... The game does them automatically, and you can read them in the log if you want to but the combat is speeded up to make it playable as an mmo, thats all and its right as it is. Its instanced a lot, but as it doesnt blocks me from decently interacting with players, i dont think thats a problem at all...
Ye and i was swearing etc, just go on report me, i dont rlly care...
agreed yeti!!
all the people that dont like DDo are prolly still playing SWG & level 100 WoW. you want repeats play wow see what level u can get to by killing a few wolves and stuff or do the same quest but just a different quest giver. or same quests giver different varition kill 4 spiders insted of the previous quest of 2. Graphics totaly awsome theres even some times when you have to turn your graphics down because you cant see the switches. out of all the MMos i have played there is only one were i have been satisfied with character creation and that was CoV CoH they are the best all mmos take a leaf out of NCsofts book. DDO is still going strong and will do so for a while. with all the content there are releasing youl never get board.....all you people who moaned did you ever face the dragon??? the titan???? wishperdoom??? in fact did you even beat delarers?