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PS3 failed, Blueray is losing, SWG will be next

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  • CymdaiCymdai Member UncommonPosts: 1,043
    You've touched on the PS3.



    While I support you for posting links with factual evidence, be warned; Playstation fan-boys are the worst breed of gamer, by far. They can dismiss facts without hesitation, ignore the obvious, and always find some way to try and explain how every other system sucks, while theirs is superior.



    Go to any PS3 forum with this topic and post it. Watch how you're flamed as an idiot/moron/flamer immediately.



    Good thread though, I approve!

    Waiting for something fresh to arrive on the MMO scene...

  • RentakRentak Member Posts: 13
    Ps3 hasnt failed, its been 2 months. Wait when games such as LAIR, MGS4, SOCOM 4, and other big names come out, thats what most are waiting for. Give the ps3 full year before you clain it has failed, otherwise quit bashing it for the hell of it because your not giving it a chance. I personally have the system and have had no problems at all and am very happy with the purchase.
  • Shanks123Shanks123 Member UncommonPosts: 99
    lol i just checked ebay no ones bidding on ps3's its great i mean HAHAHAHAHA WII PWNS SO MUCH.

    I'm Here. I'm Awesome. Get Used To It.

  • Firebird1Firebird1 Member Posts: 222
    The big thing is going to be happening when the numbers from the holiday season are tallied up.



    How well did the WII perform and how much ground has Sony lost because of it will be the cause of either the redemption of the PS3 or not.


  • MarchusMarchus Member Posts: 88
    Originally posted by admriker4

    Originally posted by hercules


    Sorry but thats a daft statement.
    First where is the link showing the exact money SoE is paying LA?You have none and just blabbing any figure that comes to your mind until i see it.It can be a percentage ,it can be 1 zillion ,it can be $1.Show a link don't just make up numbers.
    PS3 had production issues and every single of the 150k units made sold in matter of seconds.All you can get is now off ebay.So you can never tell what will happen if they manufacture another 1m units in a few months.If that fails to sell then you can claim ps3 is a failure.
     

     

    It was reported on starwars online site that SOE's pays 10 million dollars per year for the license. I dont have a link, can someone provide it please. Ive seen it posted a few times at least on various sites.

    Sony projected sales of 2 million units. They sold 175k, thats a failure. Yes one can speculate production problems were the issue. One could also speculate that most of the PS3'S that sold out were to ebay resellers and otherwise the demand for PS3's are light. Regardless, the fact is Wii sold more than twice as many units as PS3. Can anyone state honestly they thought that Wii would even be close to PS3 sales, much less whip them by double ?

    Sony's stock took a big hit, costing investors BILLIONS in lost value. Thats also a big fat failure.

    http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/300.html

    hd-dvd sales are double over bluray, hmm smells like a failure to me. Its not even close in fact, hd-dvd sales win by 3 to 1 margin.

    http://www.movieweb.com/dvd/news/32/15132.php



    Blu-ray players are not as readily available and are using newer tech, making them much more expensive. I doubt anybody but techies have any clue what either format is. The PS3 is a trojan horse for regular households even if it only sells 10 million units in its lifetime. Not only that but DVDs are still mainstream and will be for at least another 5 years. Nobody is about to bail on the format this early, it's the same as people saying the DVD format wasn't going to stick 8 years back. Just completely ridiculous and baseless speculation.

    The Wii is benifitting from the exact same thing, using old tech, not even current, old technology in a "new" system. Even their brand new motion sensing idea was out in '97. Obviously they'll have no troubles with production. Just the fact that they're able to get so many to market and that the general public will perceive it as a next-gen system like the guaranteed them a quick start. You would have to be pretty stupid to not realize it would outsell the PS3, and it will probably rob Microsoft of a lot of sales for the next few months as well.

    Whether or not they're still selling a year or two from now when the gimmick gets old and 360 and PS3 games are again way ahead in both game quality and availability will be a different story. If you don't recall the lack of games was the main reason the Gamecube did so terribly too.

  • RentakRentak Member Posts: 13
    Its going to take a bit for sony to make the money for their product. It costs a lot more to make the ps3, than what they are selling it for. The 360 only recently just started making a profit. People say the 360s graphics are better than the ps3's, well the ps3 has been out for 2 months. The 360s graphics werent all that impressive @ launch either, you cant compare 2 new next gen consoles, where one has a year lead over the other. The Wii wont last long, people will get tired of it eventually. No online play hurts that department big time in the long run. That new controller is carrying that system.
  • RentakRentak Member Posts: 13
    Originally posted by Cymdai

    You've touched on the PS3.



    While I support you for posting links with factual evidence, be warned; Playstation fan-boys are the worst breed of gamer, by far. They can dismiss facts without hesitation, ignore the obvious, and always find some way to try and explain how every other system sucks, while theirs is superior.



    Go to any PS3 forum with this topic and post it. Watch how you're flamed as an idiot/moron/flamer immediately.



    Good thread though, I approve!
    There is a reason for that and its not all their fault. Constantly the 360 fanboys go to ps3 forums just to bash it, over and over. Making threads about how its horrible and how Microsoft is superior. How do you expect to get a good discussion about the ps3-360 with that happening all the time? Damn community is exactly the same for any other console.
  • DodeceDodece Member Posts: 76

    I think some people are ignoreing what Nintendo did right this time. Yes it is easy to blame the situation entirely on how poorly Sony conceived the PS3, and yes it is poorly conceived. The system has alot of technical problems, and is very overpriced for the market. Consoles by their very nature are consumable. They have a life span. People will take that into account when makeing a purchase especially since the other company might come out with a better product in a couple years.

    What Nintendo has done right this time around is this. They have finally moved to backward compatability that means just like Microsoft, and Sony they will start off with a decent retro library. They have also made their virtual console which provides even more retro titles at a modest fee. Laugh if you like, but there is a considerable retro market. When someone is acheing to play some old school goodness they can do that now. Anyway downloading all your favorite old games to one console has a real appeal. Even after the Wii is long gone you can dig it back out, and play a huge selection of games. Not only that, but if the VC turns out to be a hit then Nintendo is going to be provideing retro goodness for many years.

    Nintendo also made it a point to start with a decent library. They even ship a game with the system, and from all reports people love sports it is simple, and highly addictive. Most gamers will tell you at the end of the day it is the library that makes or breaks a system. Now if you are not going to have a acceptable library for six to eight months what do your players do in the mean time. I will tell you what they do they lose faith. Few buy the console, and even fewer will play on it. People buy systems that have games they want to play. They do not buy systems with no games. Sony has a very pathetic library. Nintendo has a decent library. Sure I wish there were a few more killer apps at launch. Nintendo though did make sure to have atleast Zelda for launch, and a few good games to back it up. Sony had resistance, and that is merely a good game. Oh my god Nintendo learned how to launch.

    Call the controller a gimmic if you like, but speaking as someone who has used it the controller is less about cheap thrills, and more about unique gameplay. You would be terribly shocked by the versatility of this control. I feal like this controller has actually given me more buttons to work with that I can reach all at the same time. I also like the fact that you can tailor this control choseing which hand holds what matters. End result the controller is a real enhancement, and is almost universal for anyone useing it.

    Nintendo kept the price reasonable unlike some companies. That really matters alot that people with out alot of money to burn can buy a next gen console. That means more people will buy this system. Not everyone can afford to spend six hundred dollars on a game console. For alot of people putting out that kind of money is a hardship. The real funny thing is Nintendo is turning a profit off the hardware. They can actually reduce their price even further. Sony is loseing money on its console how long till they can reduce the price realistically. Nintendo can reduce the price tomorrow. Sony can reduce the price three years from now.

    Yes Sony did alot of things wrong, but on the other side Nintendo did alot of things right. Nintendo is not doing well, because Sony did poorly. Nintendo is doing well, because they had a good plan. They eliminated their previous mistakes takeing away a competitive edge others had. They have a decent online plan this time out. They made a good sales pitch to the public. They have a respectable library both VC, and Back comp along with their launch titles. Their gameplay is still innovative, and well designed. Finally they tried to be different they want to be the low end system everyone can have, and not only that but will want to have.

    I find it heart warming that Nintendo seems to have learned from past mistakes. You might have a point of eight months down the line if this was the GC Nintendo, but it is not.  Nintendo has proven it is a real player, and you cannot underestimate a real player. You have to give alot of respect to Nintendo this time out. They did a flawless launch, and they have a solid concept. They obviously know what they are doing. Sony could have launched well, and I doubt it would have changed Nintendos sales numbers one bit. Though I am sure that Nintendo probabally bullied on the PS3 this holiday season.

  • BlazinBladesBlazinBlades Member Posts: 1,214
     

    Actually for myself I find it rather funny to listen to the 360 Fanbious, I myself love my 360 and I am biased towards it, but in all honesty I wonder if these 360 fanboius even owned a 360 when it first came out, because they sure as hell seem to have forgotten about all the major technical problems that the 360 had when it came out and the entire shipments of complete dubs that were received by retailers. And of the massive lack of games that were practically nonexistent. And then there is the price, when I purchased my 360 the first day it came out it cost me 699.95 I purchased my PS3 60 for 769.95 my PS3 is far more powerful then my 360 so the minor little price difference means very little to me. And this whole battle of the Blue Ray and HDTV, I am afraid to be the bearer of bad news but their has been no winner in this battle and neither is doing any better then the other as of yet, and most if not all industry experts agree with that. Who will win in the end, well to be honest I really couldn’t care less simple because my PC is just under 14,000.00 dollars and to be honest and frank all the consol games look like shit compared to my PC and as such it kicks the shit out of my PS3, my XBOX 360 and my fiends WII. But anyways to each their own. Bring it on down now.

    Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.

  • admriker4admriker4 Member Posts: 1,070
    Originally posted by BlazinBlades

     
    Actually for myself I find it rather funny to listen to the 360 Fanbious, I myself love my 360 and I am biased towards it, but in all honesty I wonder if these 360 fanboius even owned a 360 when it first came out, because they sure as hell seem to have forgotten about all the major technical problems that the 360 had when it came out and the entire shipments of complete dubs that were received by retailers. And of the massive lack of games that were practically nonexistent. And then there is the price, when I purchased my 360 the first day it came out it cost me 699.95 I purchased my PS3 60 for 769.95 my PS3 is far more powerful then my 360 so the minor little price difference means very little to me. And this whole battle of the Blue Ray and HDTV, I am afraid to be the bearer of bad news but their has been no winner in this battle and neither is doing any better then the other as of yet, and most if not all industry experts agree with that. Who will win in the end, well to be honest I really couldn’t care less simple because my PC is just under 14,000.00 dollars and to be honest and frank all the consol games look like shit compared to my PC and as such it kicks the shit out of my PS3, my XBOX 360 and my fiends WII. But anyways to each their own. Bring it on down now.

     

    HD-DVD movies are outselling Bluray by more than 3-1 as reported by several websites (based on sales from places like amazon). Industry insiders are stating hd-dvd has won the fight. The backers of Bluray are even going hd-dvd. The writing is on the wall for bluray

  • admriker4admriker4 Member Posts: 1,070
    Originally posted by Dodece


    I think some people are ignoreing what Nintendo did right this time. Yes it is easy to blame the situation entirely on how poorly Sony conceived the PS3, and yes it is poorly conceived. The system has alot of technical problems, and is very overpriced for the market. Consoles by their very nature are consumable. They have a life span. People will take that into account when makeing a purchase especially since the other company might come out with a better product in a couple years.
    What Nintendo has done right this time around is this. They have finally moved to backward compatability that means just like Microsoft, and Sony they will start off with a decent retro library. They have also made their virtual console which provides even more retro titles at a modest fee. Laugh if you like, but there is a considerable retro market. When someone is acheing to play some old school goodness they can do that now. Anyway downloading all your favorite old games to one console has a real appeal. Even after the Wii is long gone you can dig it back out, and play a huge selection of games. Not only that, but if the VC turns out to be a hit then Nintendo is going to be provideing retro goodness for many years.
    Nintendo also made it a point to start with a decent library. They even ship a game with the system, and from all reports people love sports it is simple, and highly addictive. Most gamers will tell you at the end of the day it is the library that makes or breaks a system. Now if you are not going to have a acceptable library for six to eight months what do your players do in the mean time. I will tell you what they do they lose faith. Few buy the console, and even fewer will play on it. People buy systems that have games they want to play. They do not buy systems with no games. Sony has a very pathetic library. Nintendo has a decent library. Sure I wish there were a few more killer apps at launch. Nintendo though did make sure to have atleast Zelda for launch, and a few good games to back it up. Sony had resistance, and that is merely a good game. Oh my god Nintendo learned how to launch.
    Call the controller a gimmic if you like, but speaking as someone who has used it the controller is less about cheap thrills, and more about unique gameplay. You would be terribly shocked by the versatility of this control. I feal like this controller has actually given me more buttons to work with that I can reach all at the same time. I also like the fact that you can tailor this control choseing which hand holds what matters. End result the controller is a real enhancement, and is almost universal for anyone useing it.
    Nintendo kept the price reasonable unlike some companies. That really matters alot that people with out alot of money to burn can buy a next gen console. That means more people will buy this system. Not everyone can afford to spend six hundred dollars on a game console. For alot of people putting out that kind of money is a hardship. The real funny thing is Nintendo is turning a profit off the hardware. They can actually reduce their price even further. Sony is loseing money on its console how long till they can reduce the price realistically. Nintendo can reduce the price tomorrow. Sony can reduce the price three years from now.
    Yes Sony did alot of things wrong, but on the other side Nintendo did alot of things right. Nintendo is not doing well, because Sony did poorly. Nintendo is doing well, because they had a good plan. They eliminated their previous mistakes takeing away a competitive edge others had. They have a decent online plan this time out. They made a good sales pitch to the public. They have a respectable library both VC, and Back comp along with their launch titles. Their gameplay is still innovative, and well designed. Finally they tried to be different they want to be the low end system everyone can have, and not only that but will want to have.
    I find it heart warming that Nintendo seems to have learned from past mistakes. You might have a point of eight months down the line if this was the GC Nintendo, but it is not.  Nintendo has proven it is a real player, and you cannot underestimate a real player. You have to give alot of respect to Nintendo this time out. They did a flawless launch, and they have a solid concept. They obviously know what they are doing. Sony could have launched well, and I doubt it would have changed Nintendos sales numbers one bit. Though I am sure that Nintendo probabally bullied on the PS3 this holiday season.

     

    I agree 100% with you. Nintendo did something truly amazing with Wii. Can anyone possibly imagine Wii outselling PS3 by mre than double a year ago ?

    Nintendo has impressed me.

  • kaibigan34kaibigan34 Member Posts: 1,508
    Originally posted by admriker4

    Originally posted by BlazinBlades

     
    Actually for myself I find it rather funny to listen to the 360 Fanbious, I myself love my 360 and I am biased towards it, but in all honesty I wonder if these 360 fanboius even owned a 360 when it first came out, because they sure as hell seem to have forgotten about all the major technical problems that the 360 had when it came out and the entire shipments of complete dubs that were received by retailers. And of the massive lack of games that were practically nonexistent. And then there is the price, when I purchased my 360 the first day it came out it cost me 699.95 I purchased my PS3 60 for 769.95 my PS3 is far more powerful then my 360 so the minor little price difference means very little to me. And this whole battle of the Blue Ray and HDTV, I am afraid to be the bearer of bad news but their has been no winner in this battle and neither is doing any better then the other as of yet, and most if not all industry experts agree with that. Who will win in the end, well to be honest I really couldn’t care less simple because my PC is just under 14,000.00 dollars and to be honest and frank all the consol games look like shit compared to my PC and as such it kicks the shit out of my PS3, my XBOX 360 and my fiends WII. But anyways to each their own. Bring it on down now.

     

    HD-DVD movies are outselling Bluray by more than 3-1 as reported by several websites (based on sales from places like amazon). Industry insiders are stating hd-dvd has won the fight. The backers of Bluray are even going hd-dvd. The writing is on the wall for bluray

    Dont forget the movie distributors that refuse to use Bluray. You cant find as many movies on Bluray as you can HD-DVD.



    Then there is the stigma that goes with Sony. HD doesnt have something like that to deal with. I am not just talking what SOE did. I mean everything from the /rootkit fiasco to the tax evasion rumors. Sony is already going into this fight crippled.



    Kai
  • acmtalkacmtalk Member Posts: 405
    Originally posted by kaibigan34

    Originally posted by admriker4

    Originally posted by BlazinBlades

     
    Actually for myself I find it rather funny to listen to the 360 Fanbious, I myself love my 360 and I am biased towards it, but in all honesty I wonder if these 360 fanboius even owned a 360 when it first came out, because they sure as hell seem to have forgotten about all the major technical problems that the 360 had when it came out and the entire shipments of complete dubs that were received by retailers. And of the massive lack of games that were practically nonexistent. And then there is the price, when I purchased my 360 the first day it came out it cost me 699.95 I purchased my PS3 60 for 769.95 my PS3 is far more powerful then my 360 so the minor little price difference means very little to me. And this whole battle of the Blue Ray and HDTV, I am afraid to be the bearer of bad news but their has been no winner in this battle and neither is doing any better then the other as of yet, and most if not all industry experts agree with that. Who will win in the end, well to be honest I really couldn’t care less simple because my PC is just under 14,000.00 dollars and to be honest and frank all the consol games look like shit compared to my PC and as such it kicks the shit out of my PS3, my XBOX 360 and my fiends WII. But anyways to each their own. Bring it on down now.

     

    HD-DVD movies are outselling Bluray by more than 3-1 as reported by several websites (based on sales from places like amazon). Industry insiders are stating hd-dvd has won the fight. The backers of Bluray are even going hd-dvd. The writing is on the wall for bluray

    Dont forget the movie distributors that refuse to use Bluray. You cant find as many movies on Bluray as you can HD-DVD.



    Then there is the stigma that goes with Sony. HD doesnt have something like that to deal with. I am not just talking what SOE did. I mean everything from the /rootkit fiasco to the tax evasion rumors. Sony is already going into this fight crippled.



    Kai what about do your homework first?   The BR actually have more studios backing it up than HD-DVD, at least for now.

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  • SunriderSunrider Member UncommonPosts: 527

    Well I appologize if some of what I say is repeating what has been said but some post are long-winded and not everyone knows what a paragraph is.

    Onto the next point... When it comes to the PS3 the only thing it has going for it is the "Playstation" name. Lord knows I was a fan of the original and still am a fan of the ps2 as i already am pinning over the upcoming title for it "Rogue Galaxy", but lord knows when you have dev's jumping ship on a playstation only title (which on the ps2 was a gaurenteed money maker) that those are bad signs.

    You ps3 fan bois can hold on to your hopes as much as you like but lets be honest here for a moment; when was the last good title for the ps3? when will the next be? Take a walk on over to IGN.com and take a look at the scores for the ps3 games they have out already. Yes, yes, i am aware that IGN's crew seem to be a bunch of idiots at times but look at the scores. the only game barely to sratch a 9 is an FPS and i hate to say it but its not hard to have a decent fps. all the "8" games are sports games. Any hard-core gamer knows that sports games are always fun but its the same damn thing over and over again. Where the originality?

    Now moving on, go on over to there little "Release Dates" section for the ps3. Find anything interesting there? Something fun and exciting you're looking forward to playing thats not on any other system or actually takes more then 2 brain cells to clap together to play? Hmmm... i can see the desire to play ANOTHER "Sonic the Hedgehog", or "Virtua Fighter"... right. The only game that I can see that might spark my interest is "Heavenly Sword" which releases in march 07' which will probabaly be pushed closer to the end of that month if not completely pushed back.


    Put all this together now, I know you can do it. The ps3 released in nov. 06'; no actual good games that will hold your interest for 5+ months (so you have something pretty to look at for 5+ months...); Games that were out for other platforms well over a year+ ago taking till june to release for the ps3(half-life 2 for example).

    Now take all this and combine its reported difficulty for programing games, lack of developer interest, blu-ray push (and blu-ray cost on average 40$'s for, and yes it can play DVD but not HD-DVD, so if blu-ray loses you're SOL for the "next-gen" dvds), massive security flaws, and i repeat lack of developer interest (MGS and Assassians Creed, two big hitters for the ps3 now available on 360)... Well things are looking a bit grim for the ps3.

    I wish the PS3 and all who chose to purchase one luck as I am not a PS hater by any means... but i do believe Sony droped the ball on this one.

    "And after blizzard takes over the world, they are gonna gather a bunch of lemmings, sit on their fat asses near a cliff, and watch the little fuzzy bastards suicide dive into the ground below. . . . . all just for their own entertainment."

  • gladiatory2kgladiatory2k Member Posts: 79

    Yes, this is just purely my opinion. In my mind a lot of the big box sales happen at Christmas. Christmas makes it a lot easier to shell out 600 bucks just to get the wow factor. After Christmas, you can expect tax returns to provide a small boost in the PS3 sales, but not in the numbers you can see during Christmas. There are a lot of things $600 bucks can be used for over the course of a year and if the 360 takes a price cut, sony will have trouble getting back the $400 perconsole they are losing right now on each sale.

    You need a successful pre-christmas launch so that becomes the primary "I want it" item of the season. With those sales, you have more leverage as far as exclusive titles when it comes to 3rd party software. That exclusivity is enough to draw more late adopters to your console. If you only have an installed base of 500K, you are not going to be encouraging a software developer to spend 3 million in R&D on a game, the risk is too great.

    In order to recover the losses taken over the year Sony may have to sell of divisions to show a profit on the books and make investors happy.

  • grimbojgrimboj Member Posts: 2,102
    lol thanks guys that was a funny post.

    The bad news - Its pretty obvious that the financies of the seperate sony companies will remain independant. If SWG isnt making any money then that has nothing to do with the PS3. I'd be surprise if John Smedley and the head of PS3 development have met more than once. Its like if Sony dont sell many TVs in summer then they dont jack a PS3 game...

    --
    Note: PlayNC will refuse to allow you access to your account if you forget your password and can't provide a scanned image of the product key for the first product you purchased..... LOL

  • RentakRentak Member Posts: 13
    Originally posted by Sunrider


    Well I appologize if some of what I say is repeating what has been said but some post are long-winded and not everyone knows what a paragraph is.
    Onto the next point... When it comes to the PS3 the only thing it has going for it is the "Playstation" name. Lord knows I was a fan of the original and still am a fan of the ps2 as i already am pinning over the upcoming title for it "Rogue Galaxy", but lord knows when you have dev's jumping ship on a playstation only title (which on the ps2 was a gaurenteed money maker) that those are bad signs.
    You ps3 fan bois can hold on to your hopes as much as you like but lets be honest here for a moment; when was the last good title for the ps3? when will the next be? Take a walk on over to IGN.com and take a look at the scores for the ps3 games they have out already. Yes, yes, i am aware that IGN's crew seem to be a bunch of idiots at times but look at the scores. the only game barely to sratch a 9 is an FPS and i hate to say it but its not hard to have a decent fps. all the "8" games are sports games. Any hard-core gamer knows that sports games are always fun but its the same damn thing over and over again. Where the originality?

    Now moving on, go on over to there little "Release Dates" section for the ps3. Find anything interesting there? Something fun and exciting you're looking forward to playing thats not on any other system or actually takes more then 2 brain cells to clap together to play? Hmmm... i can see the desire to play ANOTHER "Sonic the Hedgehog", or "Virtua Fighter"... right. The only game that I can see that might spark my interest is "Heavenly Sword" which releases in march 07' which will probabaly be pushed closer to the end of that month if not completely pushed back.




    Put all this together now, I know you can do it. The ps3 released in nov. 06'; no actual good games that will hold your interest for 5+ months (so you have something pretty to look at for 5+ months...); Games that were out for other platforms well over a year+ ago taking till june to release for the ps3(half-life 2 for example).
    Now take all this and combine its reported difficulty for programing games, lack of developer interest, blu-ray push (and blu-ray cost on average 40$'s for, and yes it can play DVD but not HD-DVD, so if blu-ray loses you're SOL for the "next-gen" dvds), massive security flaws, and i repeat lack of developer interest (MGS and Assassians Creed, two big hitters for the ps3 now available on 360)... Well things are looking a bit grim for the ps3.
    I wish the PS3 and all who chose to purchase one luck as I am not a PS hater by any means... but i do believe Sony droped the ball on this one.
    You may not be into some of the release titles, but im sure others are. I know LAIR has been one of the most talked about games recently, and you didnt even mention it, so that proves how much knowledge you know about upcoming ps3 games. I agree, they are slow with getting good games, but the 360 had the same problem. The people that couldnt run Elder Scrolls on their comps will be able to play it on their ps3.  GRAW 2, GTA IV, I can keep going.
  • gladiatory2kgladiatory2k Member Posts: 79
    GTA 4 gets released one day earlier for the PS3 than on the 360.
  • SunriderSunrider Member UncommonPosts: 527


    Originally posted by gladiatory2k
    GTA 4 gets released one day earlier for the PS3 than on the 360.


    TY Glad, and not only that Ren, but where is a somewhat original title only for the PS3 that everyone is waiting to get their hands on? Previously GTA was a PS2 exclusive until the contract expired and they were able to produce it for other platforms. They do that because the PS2 sales would go up and the numbers for the PS2 would look so much better. So far the ONLY title that looks like its staying PS3 exclusive that will generate a buzz is FFXIII.

    Oh, and GRAW2 is going to be out on 360 as well, with the same vauge release date as the PS3... Q2 2007

    PS. Lair is only being hotly talked about because it is the only original title thats due out thats looking interesting... If there were other titles due out at the same time such as FFXIII and GTA4 it would more then likely be overlooked.

    "And after blizzard takes over the world, they are gonna gather a bunch of lemmings, sit on their fat asses near a cliff, and watch the little fuzzy bastards suicide dive into the ground below. . . . . all just for their own entertainment."

  • ErolisErolis Member Posts: 54
    As Long as the Matrix online is still live. SWG will not be taken down. If MXO is off lined then worry!

    The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity. - Harlan Ellison
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  • Eryk13Eryk13 Member Posts: 12
    Originally posted by HashBrick


     

    Originally posted by admriker4

    there are two stores in Boise, Idaho and one in Nampa, Idaho that have PS3's in stock.

    Software Etc - Boise

    Electronics Boutique - Boise

    Walmart - Nampa

    These are just the ones I asked (i was there looking for a Wii)

    The manager in Software Etc stated that they had 4 in stock (2 were opened returns). While I was there, I heard a customer object to buying one (a sales associate was trying to talk him into a sale) because of the price. Another chimed in that the PS3 was a POS and knew 3 friends that had returned them because they lock up and arent backward compatible

    Lmao Idaho. Ya I can go into the desert too and find me a ps3, I'm talking about big cities, not back water bullshit.

    Ok, fine.  Chicago big enough for you? 



    Went to a Target, they had 5 in stock on a Sunday in the afternoon.  They put them out that morning.  The worker told me they started the day with 7. 



    Went to the Best Buy earlier that day.  Saw a line out the door before they opened, so I figured they had some mega sale going on, and I got in line.  Five minutes before opening, the BB worker comes out and asks who was there for PS3, out of roughly 30-40 people standing outside, noone responded, since he had "tickets" to give out to reserve the PS3s that they had in stock. 



    Another Best Buy, still in the city, later that day after Target, had 3 in stock.  That was around 3PM. 



    Gamestop was sold out of both.  In two locations that I tried that day.



    Went to a Best Buy earlier this evening, they had one sitting in their main aisle.  Just sitting there.  Visible to all. 



    Although I hear the argument about giving things more time to figure out who will win, I think its fair to say that POS3 is up against a wall for the first time, and they have alot of catching up to do.



    I was, like the original poster, looking for a Wii.  I'll buy it, if for nothing else, to help out a decent company who gives a rat's ass about their consumers. 
  • fozzie22fozzie22 Member Posts: 1,003
    Originally posted by End_of_a_era

    This has nothing to do with SWG or SOE tbh.

     

     

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  • JestorRodoJestorRodo Member UncommonPosts: 2,642
    Sony should just step back to small electronic devices like the walkman.  Everything after that has been a failure!

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  • tvalentinetvalentine Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,216
    lol funny when the 360 came out, they were off the shelves for about 2 months(sold out), and how long has it been for the PS3?? a month and a half. Also the 360 had alot more consoles comeing onto the shelves then the PS3s. Thats already an indicator that it will fail in the long run. If anything FFXIII will save it. Maybe finally this will take the dieing horse known as SWG off its life support.

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  • gladiatory2kgladiatory2k Member Posts: 79

    LG announced a player that will play both Blue-ray AND HD-DVD. Many other companies are following suit. this effectively cuts off any advantage the PS3 has from including Blue-ray tech on the PS-3. To read more on this topic go to

     

    http://www.playfuls.com/news_05707_Deadly_Coup_for_Sonys_Blu_Ray_LGs_Dual_Format_HD_Player.html

     

    As for what this has to do with SWG, SWG is a product of SOE, SOE is a subsidiary of Sony, Sony produces the PS3 and Betamax...err I mean Blue-ray. If a company ends up facing financial issues resulting from billions of dollars in research and devlopment going no where, they can look to sell a division off in the short term, or getting rid of their least profitable projects in order to weather the storm and hold on until the PS3 can finally catch on. I am not saying this is going to happen, but it is worth watching what is going to happen in the short term. Nothing reactionary to be sure, and the good press is maintaining  Sony's stock price at a respectable level. How many hits can Sony take to it's reputation? Last year's stumbles like rootkit, failure of UMD, laptop battery recall, and lackluster console launch would be difficult for any company survive. On the flip side, Sony just needs to hope 13 doesn't prove to be an unlucky number (final fantasy 13).

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