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Who are the heavy hitters?

VociferorVociferor Member Posts: 98

 

I'm a new player to Eve and would like to know what the big influential corporations and alliances are in Eve.  Every game has them and I've found it useful in the past to find out who they are right from the start.

Thanks in advance for any replies.

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  • kaianuarkaianuar Member Posts: 13
    Most successful PVP alliance - BOB (Band Of Brothers) - Control much of the southern and western front and just in the midst of claiming 3 new regions from the (former) most succesful industrial alliance, ASCN. Whatever BOB does, all other alliance watch with great interest (some with disdain, others with fear). They have their fans and critics but they're good at what they do. Having said that, I pretty much hate them and can't wait for their downfall



    Other notable alliances to note of:

    D2 (Dusk and Dawn) - They're pretty much the sheriff of the north, helping forge a unity in an area that has once saw one of the greatest battle in eve history. They are also rumoured to either be BOB's next target or take the initiative and fight BOB in their own space depending on who you choose to believe. Bitter enemies of BOB and should they ever decide to start a war, it may spark war throughout the eve universe as both have their trusty allies to call upon.



    RA (Red Alliance) and Goonswarm - aka RAGOON - Two alliances that have cooperated to take regions down in the south. Incidentally BOB had a few months before believed they had wiped Goonswarm from Eve once and for all. The continued existance of Goonswarm will definately be a future thorn for BOB.



    ISS (Interstellar Starbase Syndicate) - A sort of alliance that claims to be non-political and instead builds stations for use by the general eve population. Their non-political status however has often been in doubt and their current war with a minor regional power will no doubt seed further mistrust. Hired MC and a few other mercenary corps to do their dirty work.



    AAA (Against All Authorities) - A pure PVP corp that has just captured a region to call their home down south and is helping out their ally in the war against ISS. They are no fan of Bob and with their homes being next to each other you can be sure that it's a matter of when and not will.



    MC (Mercenary Coalition) - They are the top mercenary alliance in game at the moment. Always for hire to wage war against those unfortunate enough to have made an enemy against rich clients. Labeled as an alliance with BOB alts as they share the same region of space and have refused so far to take a contract against BOB.



    To be honest, there are more corps that can say they're influential too apart from those that I've listed but at the moment, these are the movers and shakers. Feel free to add more though.



    p.s. Alliance discussions usually ends up in a heated debate. I've tried to present it in the most subjective way I could without trying to flame anyone...
  • keraamkeraam Member Posts: 11
    Besides BoBs power and control of their regions, would you say they are bad people or just guys playing the game to win :P
  • kaianuarkaianuar Member Posts: 13
    I wouldn't say they're bad people. I mean every alliance has a few bad bunch amongst them and BOB is not an exception. I do respect them for their awesome war machine and their ability to roll over anyone who they want. But I guess because of their military power they have rubbed a lot of people in the wrong way.



    I guess pretty much how the US has rubbed a lot of people in the wrong way in RL. Not to say that BOB and the US are the same, just that they are basically each a superpower in their own right and do what they want regardless of what other people thinks.
  • VociferorVociferor Member Posts: 98

    tyvm Kaianuar that was more than I was expecting and much appreciated.  Although for anyone else, please feel free to add your own contributions.

    It is not my intention to draw anyone into a heated debate or a debate on the moralities of certain corps.  I'm just looking for a quick heads up on who is who in the game as I start out.

    On a more personal note, also any information anyone could give me on the Privateer Alliance and The Legion of Steel Warriors would be appreciated.

  • kaianuarkaianuar Member Posts: 13
    At the moment, the only good response you might get about Privateer Alliance is from the alliance members themselves. They are pretty much hated by all major alliances since their MO is to war declare on various alliances (and are thus are allowed) to kill (mostly) hauling ships belonging to the alliance in safe empire space. In other words, they're kind of pirates that makes use of war declarations to safely shoot their targets.



    For those that have never played Eve at an alliance level this is considered unhonourable since most alliance do their fighting out of empire space where every ship is a valid target.



    But, if you really think about it, it's within the in game mechanics and I suppose would be no different than RL Mafia bosses operating out in the open yet still untouchable from the authorities. It's definately going to be a lot of fun to players new to eve since they get to shoot at ships with minimal worries.



    Edit to add: Don't know much about the other corp/alliance that you mentioned.
  • FleshsmithFleshsmith Member Posts: 22

    Vociferer-

    The Privateer Alliance bills itself as an anti-alliance..alliance.  I myself have a character in Privateers.  The thing with the whole Privateer concept is to wage war on alliances in empire space.  It's true many don't like the idea of our alliance using the game mechanics to war dec everything in sight (25-27 wars going atm), but this is born more of inconvenience than anything.   Whereas it makes it [a bit] more difficult for alliances to move stuff around empire as well as bring spoils to major trade hubs to sell.  I say a bit of an inconvenience because it is very easy to get around this by simply escorting haulers or making an alt to do the deed for you but you would be surprised at how many don't.  Another reason some frown on Privateers is because many smaller pirate corps are jumping freely into the alliance which gives them a wide variety of targets to shoot with no loss of security status.  Thus they pay 50 million to war dec 1 corp (The joining prereq) and once they are in they have 25 or so free wars for their 50m isk.

    Running on a "loot first ask questions later" M.O. many of us pick our fights for possible maximum gain and minimal loss.  Do we gank haulers?- YOU BET! But we also take down anything else that may provide us withh something nice.  You can look at our Killboard at Griefwatch and get a better idea.  Though many members of the bigger (or smaller alliances for that matter) consider some of what we do unsavory,  I can tell you that we have quite a few alts of those alliances in the Privateers themselves.   There's just something about having tons of stuff to shoot that draws folks in.  I have lived in 0.0, I have been in a very large alliance, and have had tons of fun.  I'm not in Privateers because I hate those guys.  I'm in Privateers for the potential chaos you can experience flying from system to system knowing you are carrying 27 war decs.

    The best part about Privateers is there is absolutly no structure.  Members can come and go as they please.  You can leave whenever you like and come back whenever you like.  You can jump into a gang and hunt all night, or you can fly around solo looking for targets of opportunity.  You can pirate your arse off if you want or stick just to war targets.  There are no rules.   Going on vacation? fine..go.  You have 30 days with which you can never log in a say a word and your still going to be a Privateer when you get back.  If your gone 60 days and get back to find you've been removed no problem, submit another application and your back in no questions asked. 

    We kill alot, we die just as much, but we pride ourselves on always being in the black as far as profit goes. 

     

     

     

  • GamragGamrag Member Posts: 47
    You can search for all the alliances in game on the official eve-online site. Some of the information is a bit dated, but the most powerful alliances tend to have the most people as well as control the most space.



    BoB and D2 are probably the two most powerful groups in game in terms of pilots, space controlled, production and organization. They hate each other and if they do fight, they could get all of EvE into the conflict. However, as a new player, you won't be able to get into either BoB or D2.



    LV is another very powerful alliance. They have a titan as well and are probably just behind BoB and D2. There are also a ton of other smaller but very elite corps that can hold their own against just about anyone.



    As a newer player, I'd suggest starting out in one of the less well known corps to learn about the game and have fun. Alliance politics and 0.0 life can be a bit frustrating if you don't have good in game experience and friends. Build your reputation and you will get a chance to join one of those good corps eventually.



    But always remember to have fun. I know a lot of people who joined so called "powerhouse" corps or alliances and end up leaving after a few weeks because they didn't get along with the people. EvE is a big world and there is something for everyone.
  • emileejemileej Member Posts: 4
    BoB is going down. I'm tanking them all in my reaper one of these days.



    Interesting homework for ya: Though aged, check out the video on The Great Northern War on eves videos section. Very inspiring for the aspiring CEO and community addict.

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  • RebornDragonRebornDragon Member UncommonPosts: 121
    Originally posted by Fleshsmith


    Vociferer-
    The Privateer Alliance bills itself as an anti-alliance..alliance.  I myself have a character in Privateers.  The thing with the whole Privateer concept is to wage war on alliances in empire space.  It's true many don't like the idea of our alliance using the game mechanics to war dec everything in sight (25-27 wars going atm), but this is born more of inconvenience than anything.   Whereas it makes it [a bit] more difficult for alliances to move stuff around empire as well as bring spoils to major trade hubs to sell.  I say a bit of an inconvenience because it is very easy to get around this by simply escorting haulers or making an alt to do the deed for you but you would be surprised at how many don't.  Another reason some frown on Privateers is because many smaller pirate corps are jumping freely into the alliance which gives them a wide variety of targets to shoot with no loss of security status.  Thus they pay 50 million to war dec 1 corp (The joining prereq) and once they are in they have 25 or so free wars for their 50m isk.
    Running on a "loot first ask questions later" M.O. many of us pick our fights for possible maximum gain and minimal loss.  Do we gank haulers?- YOU BET! But we also take down anything else that may provide us withh something nice.  You can look at our Killboard at Griefwatch and get a better idea.  Though many members of the bigger (or smaller alliances for that matter) consider some of what we do unsavory,  I can tell you that we have quite a few alts of those alliances in the Privateers themselves.   There's just something about having tons of stuff to shoot that draws folks in.  I have lived in 0.0, I have been in a very large alliance, and have had tons of fun.  I'm not in Privateers because I hate those guys.  I'm in Privateers for the potential chaos you can experience flying from system to system knowing you are carrying 27 war decs.
    The best part about Privateers is there is absolutly no structure.  Members can come and go as they please.  You can leave whenever you like and come back whenever you like.  You can jump into a gang and hunt all night, or you can fly around solo looking for targets of opportunity.  You can pirate your arse off if you want or stick just to war targets.  There are no rules.   Going on vacation? fine..go.  You have 30 days with which you can never log in a say a word and your still going to be a Privateer when you get back.  If your gone 60 days and get back to find you've been removed no problem, submit another application and your back in no questions asked. 
    We kill alot, we die just as much, but we pride ourselves on always being in the black as far as profit goes. 
     
     
     
    You mean;



    "We like hunting in empire because 98% of the time we outnumber and out-gun any of our opponents. There is very small risk declaring war on alliances who base themselves in 0.0 as their main combat area because they don't have much in empire to defend the people doing missions and mining, hauling and trading in the "safety" (lol) of high sec space. There's just something about having tons of free kills that draws people in. Basically, we're a bunch of cowards who love exploiting (no, not the illegal type) game mechanics to the fullest in order to harass those that don't really like 0.0 nor low sec. Yah, we use the excuse that we're trying to hurt their economy, but in reality we just like easy kills and the pretty explosions of haulers and miners and battleships fitted for missioning who stand no chance in PvP."



    Yah, you summed up PA pretty good : )

  • FleshsmithFleshsmith Member Posts: 22

    / a tear for Reborn Dragon....

    Like I said it's really imaterial to PA how we rank in the eyes of other players, corps, or alliances.  There are many members of the alliance and for a multitude of reasons.  The best way to sum up PA at any given time is 50 players doing 40 different things.  Some alliance players cry because we don't fit into their little box, working off a list of targets that they have pre-approved.  That's fine.  Perhaps it's not as brave or honerable as that Raven piolet 30 jumps out of empire ratting in a belt for 4-5 hrs at a time surrounded by allies...but hey, that kind of heroism is rare these days.

    Also, many of our wars are a direct result of contracts.  50 million isk gets you a contract on any corp you want without exception for a week.  How many other merc corps will do that?  ..and you don't think some of those big alliances aren't taking advantage of that deal? LOL  Cowards?  Oh please.  Please define your idea of bravery and then we can sit down and sift through some of the alliances out there sepperating the brave from the not-so-brave.

    I was in a large pirate/merc corp, that is widely respected in the game.  On a nearly nightly basis we would assemble 40-50 frigates, inty, and covert ops and go racing from empire to 20 - 30 jumps into 0.0 killing indys, ratters, miners etc.  I had almost no chance of dying and nothing we ran into had much chance of surviving except for those big time alliance folk who would immediatly pack up their camp and jump out the other side of the system when we entered....in a very brave way of course ...

    I face a much more dangerous situation on a daily basis now.  But regardless of that- I or any other PA member really don't feel the need to seek your approval.  I think this fact more than any other is what ticks off the more "structured" corporations more than anything.  We are apolitical, we are unstructured, we are making isk from doing what we like to do, and most of all we are having fun.

  • Dr_DoomDr_Doom Member Posts: 33
    Heavy Hitters:



    BoB (Band of Brothers) - Most powerful alliance at the moment. Known for being able to bring a big fight to the enemy. Also known for their propaganda/forum warrior tactics. My personal belief is that others do them more good with propaganda than they do themselves. It is a long running joke in EVE that BoB are going to open the EVE gate and win EVE. Apparently they have very structured internal organization. Also, its suspected that they are so superior because they have very high requirements for getting in, something probably upwards of 20 million+ skillpoints.



    D2 (Dusk and Dawn) - Don't know much about D2 except that they are up in the north controlling alot of systems. I would have to go off what a previous poster said, being that D2 is probably one of the only forces who could make a decent stand against BoB.



    LV (Lotka Voltera) - LV is alot of really good pvpers and some pretty good industrial corps. While I haven't kept up with their comings and goings lately, back when I was in Chimaera Pact (CHIMP), LV seemed to be the most active and powerful wing of "The Southern Coalition". I would give them credit as being another wing that could stand against BoB, but wouldn't run it past them to defeat BoB. I don't know that the Coalition is as strong as it once was, and don't know how many friends LV still have. D2 would probably be able to bring more corps and alliances against BoB.



    RA/OHGOD (Red Alliance/Goonswarm) - Red Alliance "The Ruskies" used to be one of the most powerful alliances in the south. Back when CHIMP was still around, the Coalition pushed the Reds  back until they were cooped up in one little system. Later, CHIMP all but dissapated, most corps going to LV and some spreading elsewhere. By now the Reds have taken back most if not all of their former territories. The Goons started out as a alliance that would allow anyone in and just threw together squads of t1 frigs and starter ships and zerged people. Apparently at one point BoB crushed them, but they appeared again, this time assisting RA with their quest for the south. Now they have moved into real ships and actually possess a capital fleet. On another note, RA is rumored to have the most experianced capital fleet in game.



    This is all just how I remember things. Some could be wrong, but meh, im not an EVE historian

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  • GunnyFisherGunnyFisher Member Posts: 65
    Iron is another heavy hitter up north.  A lot of people didn't realize how influntial they are until they decided to go on a field trip down south. Pirates that nobody had even heard of came out of the woodwork.

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  • RollinDutchRollinDutch Member Posts: 550
    Originally posted by Dr_Doom

    Heavy Hitters:



    D2 (Dusk and Dawn) - Don't know much about D2 except that they are up in the north controlling alot of systems. I would have to go off what a previous poster said, being that D2 is probably one of the only forces who could make a decent stand against BoB.

    Not a chance. They bled out all their PvP talent from back in the day due to NAPing everything for 60 jumps. They'll fall apart faster then Xetic did (ironic, since its mostly the corps from Xetic that werent good enough for ASCN that comprise 75% of D2's membership).



    This isnt 2005 anymore - D2 is actually in a far worse position then ASCN, theyre just farther from BoB.
  • kolaskmibagkolaskmibag Member Posts: 12
    Originally posted by kaianuar

    ISS (Interstellar Starbase Syndicate) - A sort of alliance that claims to be non-political and instead builds stations for use by the general eve population. Their non-political status however has often been in doubt and their current war with a minor regional power will no doubt seed further mistrust. Hired MC and a few other mercenary corps to do their dirty work.













    I find it interesting that IAC is referred to as a minor regional power. in terms of pure numbers they are 6th, behind  LV (whom you failed to mention even though they claim much of the south.) and then the others u mentioned (goonswarm, D2, BoB, ISS, and ASCN). I am not saying that they are any kind of "powerhouse" here... but that ISS should probably be taken off of the list of "powerhouses"... they have stations, and a lot of isk that people feel like giving to them, that's it folks.

  • daeandordaeandor Member UncommonPosts: 2,695
    I am almost done with my popcorn, but I suspect I should get some more for the upcomming "discussions."
  • binjuicebinjuice Member Posts: 363
    Concidering the discussion, and my current local within  eve (inbetween BoB and IRON/D2) I will have to say a few things =P



    D2, has shown no tru pvp force for a very long while in the northern systems, I personally am surprised that they have not taken a fair chunk out of the new systems since their access was granted and having one of the gates in the middle of one of their regions. But if BoB was to attack D2, they would have every other Alliance in the north that actually has control come after them, that includes Iron, FLA and FOF, which combined under the Iron fleet command is a force to watch. But as these Alliances have no intentions of joining together unless BoB was to enter their regions in obvious hostility they live currently in a mostly peaceful state.



    We don't want BoB up here, they should stay in the west and south.



    In other news - D2 just war dec'd ISS -

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  • kolaskmibagkolaskmibag Member Posts: 12
    Originally posted by binjuice



    In other news - D2 just war dec'd ISS -

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    sweet.

  • Just to clarify about applications to BoB corps - I know for a fact Evolution for example don't really care about skillpoints past a certain point. We have recruited characters with less than 5 million sp before now and will do so again.

    It is more a question of attitude and a certain amount of proving oneself. A combination of avoiding corporations with bad reputations and achieving your own goals.

    Say for example you get involved in a newer 0.0 corporation (possibly one of the ones operating as guests in BoB space) and rising within PvP status making an impact on a killboard along the way.

    But as I say mostly it is about attitude.

  • TaramTaram Member CommonPosts: 1,700
    Originally posted by binjuice

    Concidering the discussion, and my current local within  eve (inbetween BoB and IRON/D2) I will have to say a few things =P



    D2, has shown no tru pvp force for a very long while in the northern systems, I personally am surprised that they have not taken a fair chunk out of the new systems since their access was granted and having one of the gates in the middle of one of their regions. But if BoB was to attack D2, they would have every other Alliance in the north that actually has control come after them, that includes Iron, FLA and FOF, which combined under the Iron fleet command is a force to watch. But as these Alliances have no intentions of joining together unless BoB was to enter their regions in obvious hostility they live currently in a mostly peaceful state.



    We don't want BoB up here, they should stay in the west and south.



    In other news - D2 just war dec'd ISS -


    While I won't say that BoB doesn't want to take on D2... they may very well want to take on D2... I have to say I don't think it'd be wise.  D2 has a few surprises up their sleeve.  And as Bin pointed out... if BoB decs D2 the entire north will likely retaliate, not just D2.  Nobody up here wants BoB in the area.

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  • VociferorVociferor Member Posts: 98

     

    Again thanks to everyone that has posted, you have all been of great help.

  • kaianuarkaianuar Member Posts: 13
    Originally posted by kolaskmibag

    Originally posted by kaianuar

    ISS (Interstellar Starbase Syndicate) - A sort of alliance that claims to be non-political and instead builds stations for use by the general eve population. Their non-political status however has often been in doubt and their current war with a minor regional power will no doubt seed further mistrust. Hired MC and a few other mercenary corps to do their dirty work.













    I find it interesting that IAC is referred to as a minor regional power. in terms of pure numbers they are 6th, behind  LV (whom you failed to mention even though they claim much of the south.) and then the others u mentioned (goonswarm, D2, BoB, ISS, and ASCN). I am not saying that they are any kind of "powerhouse" here... but that ISS should probably be taken off of the list of "powerhouses"... they have stations, and a lot of isk that people feel like giving to them, that's it folks.



    I put them as a regional power as they are only able to affect the outcome within their immediate surrounding. They don't have the capability to seriously dent anyone outside of the home systems. Sure they fight good but that's not what the OP was asking. The question is not who fights the best, the question is who is the most influencial.



    It's also for that reason that I listed ISS as one of the influential entities. Who else has the ability to sell 500 billion isk worth of shares (and that's only from their last IPO) to the general eve public? If that does not make them influential I don't know what will.
  • jimmyman99jimmyman99 Member UncommonPosts: 3,221
    Originally posted by kaianuar



    I wish I had more free time on my hands to play Eve and participate in player made politics, reading about it though is almost as good.  as living it. Eve is unique and very deep in this sense. Keep up the good work folks! More stories! morrreeeee!!!

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  • kaianuarkaianuar Member Posts: 13
    Aye, Eve is one of the few games where in game politics is as much fun as the game itself. Whether you're on the winning side or at the end of a vicious spanking (as my corp/alliance have been) there's no way for you not to enjoy yourself and get addicted to the game. That's why I feel it's vital for a new player to try and join a corp as soon as possible. And with corps such as Eve University there's absolutely no reason why anyone should claim not being able to find a good corp since they take all newbies and help turn them into pvp veterans.
  • DrkreaperDrkreaper Member Posts: 76
    d2 is currently bashing away at Iss ......burnt eden is running arround in fla space not sure why but most think it has something to do with iron `s gank squads in the south......there is rumers that LV is making a pac with bob ...to keep there back door quiet while they move against the north....red& goons ya would think would move against LV to regain red lost territory........all in all its just eve in all its glory
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