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Advice on Gaming Pc

Hey gang ,just a quick question. Looking to buy a new Pc as this one has hit the 3 year mark and the price range is 1500$ max. Any suggestions ?  and no I do not want to build my own ( Unless it's put together at order )

                                                                     Thxs

Waiting on Guild Wars 2

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  • dragonxriderdragonxrider Member Posts: 107
    The only computers i know off that actually makes a great gaming pc is alienware. You can give that a try and give the customization a try to because sometimes the pre-built alienware desktops arent always the best.

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  • sargon5sargon5 Member Posts: 10

    omg, I was just thinking the exact same thing.  I hope one of the smart computer gamer type comes up with a good answer for us. 

  • SpathotanSpathotan Member Posts: 3,928
    If you are heavy on MMO's, then right off the bat you need a system with no less than 2 gigs of RAM. In something like WoW, 1 gig will cut it, but if you are going to play stuff like EQ2, Vanguard, and Age of Conan, then 2 gigs. This thread will probably get moved to off-topic, but ill go ahead and paste my system for you if you decide to go custom over retail. Also as a side note, Alienware is garbage, you are paying for the name and a fancy case, not the inards.



    Motherboard $250 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813188009

    Processor $190 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819115005

    Video Card $210 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150209

    RAM $135 x2 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146568

    Power Supply $70 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103937



    Total = $990 without case, harddrive, CD drives (that stuff is picky) You can get a setup identical to this from Alienware for about $500 more.



    Make sure you get a strong, good power supply, my personal pick is Antec, been using them for years and never had one go bad or DOA.



    Sorry for the pasting links, couldnt get the link tool to work.

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  • sargon5sargon5 Member Posts: 10
    So is that enough video card for gaming in any MMO?  I always see these systems with 2 video cards.  When would someone need 2 video cards?
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  • SpathotanSpathotan Member Posts: 3,928
    Originally posted by sargon5

    So is that enough video card for gaming in any MMO?  I always see these systems with 2 video cards.  When would someone need 2 video cards?
    2 video cards is SLI. MMO's rely on RAM moreso than a video card, but its still a very important component, but you dont need SLI for MMO's. The card I linked has a 600mhz core, its factory overclocked, faster than all of the GT models. It will be more than enough to run whatever at max/close to max settings. I can currently max out every game I own with that setup, EQ2....Warhammer Dawn of War....Rise of Legends....WoW....Oblivion....

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  • HashbrickHashbrick Member RarePosts: 1,851

    I'd personally go with an AMD/ASUS setup, intel is coming back but AMD is still the best for gaming, the power unmatched!

    $249.99 AMD Processor
    $198.99 ASUS Motherboard

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  • xaussxauss Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 384

    Buy "Which PC" or "What PC" or whatever US equivalent consumer mags u got (not PC gamer).

    They will usually have some kind of standardised testing between machines to compare performance etc, as well as giving details on warranties etc.

    Smaller suppliers are often far better value than Dell or Alienware for example, and offer rigs as good as, which are customisable when ordering online.

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  • zensaberzensaber Member UncommonPosts: 787
    you'll want a core 2 duo e6600, there kind of expensive but very worth it, ddr2 ram would be a good choice 2 gigs if you could afford, i'm not so good with motherboards so i'll leave that out, and depending on the video card you desire you could either buy a cheaper one that runs pretty good like a ati x1950 pro, or go all out and buy a geforce 8800.



    this is a generalization but i assume it would cost somthing like this is you use your current case and monitor and harddrive

    E6600 core 2 duo..... $350

    2 gig ddr2 600(or what ever).....$300

    motherboard......$200

    800 watt powersupply (for the 8800 and possible upgrades for the future).....$150

    Geforce 8800 gts.....$600



    totaling around $1600 if you could scrounge some more money up
  • TinybinaTinybina Member Posts: 2,130
    Originally posted by Praor


    Hey gang ,just a quick question. Looking to buy a new Pc as this one has hit the 3 year mark and the price range is 1500$ max. Any suggestions ?  and no I do not want to build my own ( Unless it's put together at order )
                                                                         Thxs


    Build it yourself off of NEWEGG!!



    Trust me on this one.. Last month after weeks of researh on alot of these Online Computer stores I decided to go with the Company that had the least complaints.. So what I did was bought a barebones system from this site and then the rest (Vid Card, Ram, HardDrive) on Newegg..



    Anyways to make a long story short when I got the damn thing all I should have done was put the componets from Newegg that I got and bam it should have been up and running.. But hell no didnt work that way, the Heatsink (liquid cooling system) that came with the system I bought from this site didnt work (CPU was running 70c+)....So I put a different Heatsink in and it was still too hot so it appears that not only was my Heatsink bad but my CPU chip is defective too..Plus my motherboard (ASUS blah) appears to be garbage as well...



    All in all I bought that system in December and its still waiting to get repaired by these people..So basicly I wasted about 700 bucks for a freaking dud...



    If I had to do it over agian I would have just spent a extra 100 or 200 bucks and bought everything off of Newegg and built it myself..



    Building your own CPU will also save you money now and in the long run, plus its really simple and there are tons of sites that can instruct you how to do it.





    PS.. If you decide to go with Newegg my advice is stay away from ASUS( thier boards are crap now), P4 dual core (they are the hottest chips on the market).. Also make sure you read the reviews on the things your thinking about getting, most of them are deadon... I wish I would have listened to what people were saying about ASUS and the P4 x2 chips now...Could have saved myself alot of heart ache and misery...

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  • zensaberzensaber Member UncommonPosts: 787
    yes, once you start building your own computers there is no going back!
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  • Havoc-PKHavoc-PK Member Posts: 118
    Be sure to go with a watercooling setup!!!



    Nah, I'm BSing. But nothing can beat the price of building your own. The online "build it yourself" companies charge like 30%-40% extra....but if you've got the cash, I say go for it.



    The learning experience though is pretty cool.
  • PraorPraor Member Posts: 519
    Thxs for all the replies,very helpful so far. New egg seems to be what I'm leaning towards, anyone know a good site for step by step instructions on assembly ?

    Waiting on Guild Wars 2

  • TaeraTaera Community ManagerMember CommonPosts: 1,078

    I went with a barebone system from http://magicmicro.com/.  A barebones system means that they build a computer for you which must have at least a Mobo, a processor, a power supply, and a case - the bare minimum to turn on.  You can buy your own video card/harddrive etc from newegg and plug 'em in, or you can pick those up through magic micro as well.  They'll even install windows if you buy it!  The prices are a little higher than NewEgg, but they put it together for you.

    What I loved about their site vs. other barebones computer options was the customization and choices.  There are dozens of Mobos, video cards, lots of memory options...it really let me build the system I wanted.

    So far, I had some major problems with my original system (stemming from a dead video card) but the MM support was super helpful.  There's no check list of "is it plugged in? Ok, now is it on?"...the customer service guys actually knew about hardware.

    I can't back 'em with a full recommendation due to the hardware problems I had, but honestly, that's just technology.  It does that.  I can say that they handled it pretty well and pretty quickly, and got me set up with a system that's working well (at least, for now!)

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  • TheelyTheely Member UncommonPosts: 430

    Most of the time all of your instructions will be in the Motherboard manual... if its a good manual.

    Not all ASUS boards are crap. Sure I've got one crappy one from them but I really like my A8N-SLI Premium, have had zero probs with it. I'll also toss in my vote and say get an ASUS/AMD board.

    Even though I'm also a fan of ATI video cards, I now have a 7600GT nVidia and I'm enjoying that as well. Not top of the line but for the price it works just fine for me. Could play NWN2 at near max settings at 1280x1014. Near max = Max with no shadows... since I think shadows are pointless anyways. With shadows on I wouldn't of been able to play at max.

    P.S. I get all my goods from Newegg as well. Have never had a problem with them to date.

  • CleffyIICleffyII Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,440

    If you can't build it yourself, buy it here

    http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/Default.asp

    Nothing beats building it yourself though.  Just built a new one rescently for only $500 and it can play most games on its highest settings with alot of upgrade options.

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  • PraorPraor Member Posts: 519
    Originally posted by CleffyII


    If you can't build it yourself, buy it here
    http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/Default.asp
    Nothing beats building it yourself though.  Just built a new one rescently for only $500 and it can play most games on its highest settings with alot of upgrade options.
    I checked out that site and actually put together a nice system for 1200$. It was a 3.4 Pent 4 single processor but I was thinking Dual core maybe the way to go. Those get pricy higher then 2.8 . Anyways thxs for all the feedback,I'll let you know what I come up with

    Waiting on Guild Wars 2

  • zensaberzensaber Member UncommonPosts: 787
    yes I you do not want to build your own system i would recommend Cyperpower computers also, they make decent setups
  • CillasiCillasi Member UncommonPosts: 335

    I am a die-hard Dell user - have been for years.  People complain about all the proprietary crap Dell puts on their systems, but it's never interfered with my gaming and I've played most of the games out there.  Besides, all major computer manufacturers put their proprietary crap on their systems, so you can't win.

    As for building your own?  It certainly is a viable alternative if you have the patience to do it.  However, I know professional computer techs who prefer to buy rather than build for the simple reason that it can take a lot of time and troubleshooting to build your own.  Buy one and if something isn't working right, send or take it back, and in that respect, you'll probably have an easier time doing that going with a brand-name company.  BTW, isn't Alienware owned by Dell now?  They still sell under the brand name, but in essence, you're getting a Dell.

    My philosophy when buying a new computer is to stick to a middle-of-the-line configuration.  IMHO, it doesn't pay to get top-of-the-line because it's only top-of-the-line for such a short period of time.  $1,500 is a good benchmark and you should be able to do more than okay at Dell with that.  The configurations Dell has right now are a little old and I suspect they may be updating their system lists very soon.  You might want to wait a couple months before you buy. 

    Also, with Dell, make sure you go with a full-sized case.  The slim style may give you power and overheating problems, especially if you play graphic-intense games.

  • eqbyteseqbytes Member Posts: 3

    I've been eyeing cyberpowerpc for months now. It looks good to me.

    My main hesitation is in waiting for the new tech coming out in the next few months: DirectX and AMD's quads. I wonder if it's the right time to buy. I'd rather hold off a couple months if it means I can get a core 2 duo system for less. And I'd rather save myself a couple hundred bucks by not overkilling on a graphics card before I know how the new DirectX affects lesser cards.

    Any thoughts?

    P.S. Oh, yeah. And I'm terrified of trying to build a system myself and ending up ordering a bunch of square pegs for round holes (aka. incompatible parts) 

  • TaeraTaera Community ManagerMember CommonPosts: 1,078
    Originally posted by eqbytes


    I've been eyeing cyberpowerpc for months now. It looks good to me.
    My main hesitation is in waiting for the new tech coming out in the next few months: DirectX and AMD's quads. I wonder if it's the right time to buy. I'd rather hold off a couple months if it means I can get a core 2 duo system for less. And I'd rather save myself a couple hundred bucks by not overkilling on a graphics card before I know how the new DirectX affects lesser cards.
    Any thoughts?
    P.S. Oh, yeah. And I'm terrified of trying to build a system myself and ending up ordering a bunch of square pegs for round holes (aka. incompatible parts) 



    Definently wait for April. *nods*

     

    And check out Magic Micro PCs.  They're a really good company, too.

    Laura "Taera" Genender
    Community Manager
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  • TinybinaTinybina Member Posts: 2,130
    For those of you looking into Cyberpower might I suggest you look into the BB info on the company. Might I also suggest you look into  this  www.buyxg.com/company/contact.asp   company that strangley has the exact same address as Cyberpower then ask yourself why would  these people have 2 different computer companys set up at the same address..



    If that does not make your red flag shoot up (which it should if you have a ounce of sense).. Might I suggest you go to www.epinions.com/Cyberpower_Inc_Online_Stores_Services/sec_~opinion_list/pp_~1/pa_~1  and read some reviews.





    Taera I to have used Micro Magic, I will not comment much right now either good or bad because im in the process of having them fix my system as well.. They have been pretty helpfull though, but I bought my computer in December and to be honest I should be playing on it right now and I cannot... I will update on what occurs (good or bad) when I get my system back. Hopefully I will have some good news to report, because they do seem to offer very competative prices.





    Bottom line as I said before (OP) just build it yourself off a site like newegg or at a computer parts store.. You will thank me trust me.

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    You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith

  • TinybinaTinybina Member Posts: 2,130
    Originally posted by eqbytes



    P.S. Oh, yeah. And I'm terrified of trying to build a system myself and ending up ordering a bunch of square pegs for round holes (aka. incompatible parts) 


    Then go to a Computer site liek the ones mentioned in this thread, and build your dream computer.. But instead of ordering it, write down the names of the parts and then go to Newegg and order the exact same parts. 


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    You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith

  • ginettiginetti Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 301
    Can i ask the experts on here, how is my system going to stack up:



    I have a dual core cpu with 3800+

    2 Gigs of ram

    I have 2 cards operating in SLI mode, they are both 7800 GTX's.



    and i have an 8 year old monitor hehehe, but it does the job.



    I'd be keen to know how it will handle AoC and Vanguard. As i'll definatly be playing one of those, they both look like something i've been waiting for.

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