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This game could have had such a potential

This game could have had a huge potential for a true RvR game. Two sides, good vs evil, in the battle for the ring. Something like what DAOC brings to the table. Now it will just be a boring PvE grind. I guess this is appealing to some players as well, but this game could have really been something over the top, offering something to everyone.

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  • MatrixDudeMatrixDude Member Posts: 13
    Who said it doesn't have PvP, it will have a form of PvP go and read the forums.
  • SaeravokSaeravok Member Posts: 10
    Yes I have read about it and if that's it they're better off not putting any pvp in at all. I'm not a LOTR fanatic, maybe it's like alot of ppl say, it wouldn't work if the game is going to be true to the lore, but I for one would have loved to see it as two factions, good and evil. As I understand it you can't be playing on the evil side? Too bad...
  • MatrixDudeMatrixDude Member Posts: 13
    Actually if you read it you will know that you do play the evil side in PvP only as a choice, not

    as a faction where you can level up and be all happy about it, and drool over your toon and

    equipment.



    I am not a fanboi but let's just say you will have to test it come open beta and see how it plays

    out.
  • ImTheDoctorImTheDoctor Member Posts: 27
    I think this game still has potential. I mean it's already a great game, but think of all the updates they might be saving for later. who knows they could change it to good vs. evil. But as for now like he said we must wait for open bata.

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  • SaeravokSaeravok Member Posts: 10
    Yeah I will wait for the beta, there isn't much out there to play now anyways :). Hopefully War will live up to the expectations :)
  • JulianDracosJulianDracos Member UncommonPosts: 1,528
    The problem with LotR is the same as with SWG - the time period.  In neither game can you alter the timeline of events.  This makes the game, at best, more conducive to PvE than any RvR/PvP.  You can't have one side alter the course of the books.  I am not saying this game is going to be good or bad, but simply that when working with an IP and you set it during or as a part of an established storyline, then you are going to have many problems and this is just one of them.
  • OdyssesOdysses Member Posts: 581
    Yeah, I agree to a certain extent.   You can't pick a better IP then LoTR for PvP.   This would have been the ultimate game for that but it does violate the lore so unfortunately they will not be including evil playable races.  The graphics on this game do look amazing and would loved to have seen a sandboxy type game built around this franchise that really is more world driven and content created by players.   I think Turbine will do a fine job with this game, but I think when it comes to dev created content that is linear story driven, it is just too hard to make it as fun as player created content.   I would love to have a bunch of Playable Orcs attacking Rohan with a large group of players having to defend it.
  • MoiraeMoirae Member RarePosts: 3,318
    In other words, you want it to be a copy of every other game out there. Can we say boring anyone?
  • RadmuzRadmuz Member Posts: 85
    The real attraction of this will be the lore. Reading the LOTR forums they have been very adamant about this being only PvE. I found this a bit suprising coming from Turbine.
  • Bama1267Bama1267 Member UncommonPosts: 1,822
     yeah set aside from teh lore this game is a total bore fest. Good graphics although the character models are still a little shabby. Game will still sell at least 500-750k based on its name alone though making it successful enough. Game is more geared toward a roleplayer than anything else.
  • FalconoffuryFalconoffury Member Posts: 555
    [quote]yeah set aside from teh lore this game is a total bore fest.[/quote]



    How do you know it will be a bore fest? You played it a good number of hours? I think you're probably just talking out of your rear end.



    The whole concept of evil races is flawed. A player should be able to choose evil paths by his actions within the game. Just like how any person in real life can be evil, any character of any race in an MMOG should have the choices to be evil.



    P.S. the horde faction in WoW is NOT EVIL!
  • dragon733dragon733 Member UncommonPosts: 31
    Originally posted by Falconoffury

    [quote]yeah set aside from teh lore this game is a total bore fest.[/quote]



    How do you know it will be a bore fest? You played it a good number of hours? I think you're probably just talking out of your rear end.



    Well, it's a generally accepted concept that somewhat accurate predictions of games can be made taking into account just pre-launch information. I agree that this game will sell a lot due to its name. Other than that, the game doesn't bring anything new to the table. It doesn't have anything other than the LOTR brand to keep people playing. That simply isn't enough. Where's the unique content? Where's the revolutionary new game features? Apparently, not here.

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  • dragon733dragon733 Member UncommonPosts: 31
    Originally posted by Falconoffury

    [quote]yeah set aside from teh lore this game is a total bore fest.[/quote]



    How do you know it will be a bore fest? You played it a good number of hours? I think you're probably just talking out of your rear end.


    Well, it's a generally accepted concept that somewhat accurate predictions of games can be made taking into account just pre-launch information. I agree that this game will sell a lot due to its name. Other than that, the game doesn't bring anything new to the table. It doesn't have anything other than the LOTR brand to keep people playing. That simply isn't enough. Where's the unique content? Where's the revolutionary new game features? Apparently, not here.

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  • MatrixDudeMatrixDude Member Posts: 13
    I don't know Monster Play sounded new and revolutionary to me, no other MMO's have done it yet.



    You can read the pvp forums on the official site to get some tid bit of info and ppl will just

    have to wait till open beta to give it a whirl or hopefully they get accepted into the LOTRO beta program.



    It's very promising feature that even Casual gamers will be able to get into being able to choose around a

    few evil classes to play as in a pvp zone kinda like a RvR zone we've seen in games like DAoC.



    Here's to hoping we get more info on this.
  • HashbrickHashbrick Member RarePosts: 1,851

    It was a huge let down, It used to be on my list of most anticipated mmorpg, but after playing beta I'm definatly going to pass on this game it just wasn't any fun playing a "wow clone" in terms of feel and engine.

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  • Righty01Righty01 Member Posts: 4
    No PvP? Im assuming this post is just really old and outdated.



     Lotro has more of an actual pvp system in it now than WoW did at launch, I can only assume that it will grow throughout the life of the game.
  • GrindalyxGrindalyx Member UncommonPosts: 657
    Originally posted by Falconoffury

    [quote]yeah set aside from teh lore this game is a total bore fest.[/quote]



    How do you know it will be a bore fest? You played it a good number of hours? I think you're probably just talking out of your rear end.



    The whole concept of evil races is flawed. A player should be able to choose evil paths by his actions within the game. Just like how any person in real life can be evil, any character of any race in an MMOG should have the choices to be evil.



    P.S. the horde faction in WoW is NOT EVIL!



    At one point they had it so you could choose to be evil but that went out when they went with the no pvp. If you are an evil character per say you will want to attack or kill the opposite of you. Besides Evil in LOTR is just that plain evil. They did not choose to be who they were they were born that way after Melkor corupted the our created the first evil beings in mockery of the good ones created by illuvator.

    This isn't wow and the fact that the horde isn't evil has no bearing on this game. In the universe of LOTR it is cut and dry when it comes to good and evil. There is no grey areas. Tolkien didn't create it that way. You are either evil and serve sauron or you are good and free. Sauroman was a poerful wizard and Maia. And he let the lust for power corrupt him and he betrayed all of his friends. He became evil. Not as great as sauron but still evil.

    Maybe to you the concept of an evil race is flawed but to tolkien it wasn't. Nor is it actually in the real world we live in. You can basically say sauron is the same as satan in our world and sauron's army is the same as the demons satan commands. Well in my opinion anyway.

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  • LynxJSALynxJSA Member RarePosts: 3,334
    Originally posted by Righty01

    No PvP? Im assuming this post is just really old and outdated.



     Lotro has more of an actual pvp system in it now than WoW did at launch, I can only assume that it will grow throughout the life of the game.
    Agreed. Monster Play looks like a very interesting twist on things.
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  • VerisolVerisol Member Posts: 21
    I think the game has a lot of potential just with the IP they are using and some of the things they are implementing such as their pvp system. PvP in some games just doesn't make sense. Such as in World of Warcraft where they state the Horde and Alliance are not at war at the moment when you actually get in game they are. (I blame this mostly on how the battlegrounds were done.)



    The games graphics have a fantasy feel to them unlike games like Everquest 2 and Vanguard. The graphics aren't to realistic such as Everquest 2 and Vanguard that the world seems plain and not alive, but the graphics aren't to cartoony such as in WoW. Maybe its just me but if a game doesn't have color and character it feels as if the world just doesn't help to bring you into the game.



    We will just have to wait and see how the game shapes up I really hope there are several game that turn out to be good this year compared to last year. That way we have a variety of games to choose from and fall back on incase we don't like one game. I don't know about all of you but I'm tired of playing single player games right now.
  • MoiraeMoirae Member RarePosts: 3,318
    Originally posted by HashBrick


    It was a huge let down, It used to be on my list of most anticipated mmorpg, but after playing beta I'm definatly going to pass on this game it just wasn't any fun playing a "wow clone" in terms of feel and engine.
    I so completely agree. I'm done with it. Can't do it anymore. It doesn't offer anything I want.



    Verisol, you're going to be disappointed.
  • admriker4admriker4 Member Posts: 1,070
    Originally posted by Bama1267

     yeah set aside from teh lore this game is a total bore fest. Good graphics although the character models are still a little shabby. Game will still sell at least 500-750k based on its name alone though making it successful enough. Game is more geared toward a roleplayer than anything else.

     

    No way this game sells that many copies. First of all, Turbine isnt advertising the game much. Second, LOTR isnt going to get many current MMO gamers. Its not even mentioned in other MMO's Ive played.

    So where exactly do yu think the sales will come from ? This game will be lucky if it sells 100k boxes. Heck DDO didnt sell that many and they had a cult following the game plus ads on television and magazines. LOTR has no chance to succeed even if the game was actually decent.

    Oh and by the way, the game is lousy so the few that do buy the game wont stay long. LOTR will end up with 35-50k hardcore fanbois similiar to what SWG has.

  • admriker4admriker4 Member Posts: 1,070
    Originally posted by Moirae

    Originally posted by HashBrick


    It was a huge let down, It used to be on my list of most anticipated mmorpg, but after playing beta I'm definatly going to pass on this game it just wasn't any fun playing a "wow clone" in terms of feel and engine.
    I so completely agree. I'm done with it. Can't do it anymore. It doesn't offer anything I want.



    Verisol, you're going to be disappointed.

     

    gotta agree as well. This game just plain sucks. Did you all think Turbine would actually make a decent game when they blew it with DDO ? They have shown repeatedly they dont have the talent or the smarts to make anything more than a quick dollar off the box sale

  • MatrixDudeMatrixDude Member Posts: 13
    Most of the above posters are just mad at Turbine for what they did to DDO and AC2.



    It's not an exact copy of WoW but yes it does have many aspects of  it I would imagine as WoW is the

    biggest selling MMO in the industry at this point. Just like many games cloned EQ when it was the

    top dog so will games copy WoW.



    It's a common trend in this industry and one's that try something new usually just don't make it.

    So they go with the solid design that has been proven successful and here we are yelling about

    how this game sucks or that one sucks. Same trend I see with ppl who have tried Vanguard, and

    any other new MMO.



    Now Age of Conan, Tabula Rasa and few others do sound very interesting in design and concept.

    But none of us I imagine have hands on experience with either of those 2 to see if anything is really

    new and unique in it's design.



    I can see LOTRO probably will get a pretty good size community they may not even have to go

    hardcore with advertising. As word of mouth or just walking into your local Game store and if

    you saw LOTRO on the store shelf and looked at the graphics and everything your average joe

    MMO fan may pick up a copy.



    Well anyways we all can express how we feel on here all we like but it won't do anygood as

    far as that goes.



    The PvP I would say will probably be way more fun and thrilling then WoW's design, but not

    hardcore like DAoC's where whoever had the uber loot from ToA or abilities was going to

    spank you hard.



    The PvP design is more of a casual experience from what I gather which may turn off the hardcore

    pvpers thinking camping for that 100hour drop loot will make you better in the pvp experience

    will probably be disappointed.



    Well enough of that... you get the idea.
  • MoiraeMoirae Member RarePosts: 3,318
    Matrix, I played DDO about a week. I'm not basing LOTRO's success on that game. I'm basing it on personal experience. I just quit beta because I just didn't like anything I was seeing.
  • MatrixDudeMatrixDude Member Posts: 13
    Originally posted by Moirae

    Matrix, I played DDO about a week. I'm not basing LOTRO's success on that game. I'm basing it on personal experience. I just quit beta because I just didn't like anything I was seeing.
    I never replied or quoted you directly so I was generally saying that is why most ppl would be upset with Turbine.

    I have some experience with LOTRO as well so I am not talking out of my arse but everyone will have there

    own opinions, and I am not trying to change anyone's personal opinion whatsoever.
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