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no way a new player will do all this to play this game
erinys
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it took me half a day of tweaking settings, chaning ini files, downgrading drivers, upgrading directx etc etc to even play this game smoothly
and i must say, it DOES look ok.. but its OK nothing more with all the tweaking i did.
EQ2 still looks WAY better and nothing i had to tweak for that.
i had to jump on the pvp servers to even get a glimps of the game, because its still completely unplayable on normal servers
no way a normal user will do all this, they will expect their "normal" directx, videodrivers and the basic installation game settings to be more then enough to play
they should adres performance fast, its a gamekiller atm
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I do believe this is what developers call "beta testing" which is when they work out finalizing utility setups and other end details before prepping for a release.
If you want a release ready game then get one off a shelf and don't play a beta. I am not saying it is in amazingly great shape at its current stage, but you picked up on issues that are on the end of the priority list in a testing phase.
As for the other ones, they will probably be fixed to some degree before the game is released. Heck, for all we know the current build that Sigil has could be running smooth as butter, just that they havent released it yet because they want to add more bugfixes to that build. I am not stressing too much about all the problems experienced during beta simply because the fact it is a beta. I dont expect a game to be squeaky clean when it still has a beta title attached to it. I know the game is close to release but no one (except for the folk at Sigil) knows how many bugs they will fixed in the final version.
3 generation game, guys you have to pay to play
All i can say is that my old computer intel 3.0 nvidia 7800 gt and 1.5 giga ram could not run vsoh
but i really want to play this diamond so i made a litte pc upgrade
My new pc is Intel dual core 6700 4giga ram and Nvidia 8800
Now its the most butiful mmog game i have ever seen average framrate 25-50 outside towns 35-60 and all settings on max
Before average was 15
Great game but needs a very highend computer
See you ingame
That is all.
The minimum requirements for this game arent bad at all I mean come on people its 2007 and games are going to increase along with the technology. People griped about 20 gig hard space...?? If this is an issue then you are way out of date to begin with. I myself cant understand someone who thinks a 2.4 ghz computer is too much to ask for a minimum requirement for a new game, hell I was using a 2.4 playing SWG and thats how many years old now? If you really play MMO's then you know the better the machine the better the game and most of us try to keep up with the times.
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The minimum requirements for this game arent bad at all I mean come on people its 2007 and games are going to increase along with the technology. People griped about 20 gig hard space...?? If this is an issue then you are way out of date to begin with. I myself cant understand someone who thinks a 2.4 ghz computer is too much to ask for a minimum requirement for a new game, hell I was using a 2.4 playing SWG and thats how many years old now? If you really play MMO's then you know the better the machine the better the game and most of us try to keep up with the times.
Its not the fact that its 2007 and people should have updated computers. Its the fact that soooo many people are having problems running this game, even on say an Nvida 7950 GT with 2+ gigs of RAM and a high end processor. THATS the problem. Its not the people with the 2.4 Ghz who are complaining the most, its those with one the newest high end intel processors that get horrible game play.
I can run the game well on balanced settings with my 7600 GT, but I know if (and when I do) upgrade to say something on the 8800 level and the game still runs like crap, thats when I would get upset.
The minimum requirements for this game arent bad at all I mean come on people its 2007 and games are going to increase along with the technology. People griped about 20 gig hard space...?? If this is an issue then you are way out of date to begin with. I myself cant understand someone who thinks a 2.4 ghz computer is too much to ask for a minimum requirement for a new game, hell I was using a 2.4 playing SWG and thats how many years old now? If you really play MMO's then you know the better the machine the better the game and most of us try to keep up with the times.
Its not the fact that its 2007 and people should have updated computers. Its the fact that soooo many people are having problems running this game, even on say an Nvida 7950 GT with 2+ gigs of RAM and a high end processor. THATS the problem. Its not the people with the 2.4 Ghz who are complaining the most, its those with one the newest high end intel processors that get horrible game play.
I can run the game well on balanced settings with my 7600 GT, but I know if (and when I do) upgrade to say something on the 8800 level and the game still runs like crap, thats when I would get upset.
Not true, many of the whiners around here have atrocious rigs. Simply stated, if you have a 7900/8800 and a Core 2, you should be able to max the game out. If you can't, there is something wrong with your box (Drivers, DX, bad connection). Too many people expect next gen games to run on their four year old hardware and its a completely unreasonable expectation. There is no rationale that justifies this. Technology moves forward and newer games (in very many cases) are using technologies that were not around when older cards debuted. I'm not an elitest and I'm not unsympathetic either. As I and other posters here have reiterated time and time again, you have to pay to play. This doesn't mean a $10,000 PC, it means relatively current hardware. Things are so cheap these days there is no excuse for not having an up to date rig.
I do sympathize in a way with developers as it becomes harder and harder to optimize a games coding for all of the hardware combinations out there, but when a game goes into open beta and the forums are immediately filled with pages of complaints about bad performance, there is something wrong, and not with everybodies gaming rig.
Sorta similar to Gothic 3. The game has horrible performance and the forums are filled with complaints about it, even from those with very high end computers.
As seen in some other posts I have made, I am in no way complaining on my part about the graphics. I enjoy them for the most part, but I really do think there is something wrong with the way the game runs if so many people have problems.
and my point was proven more then once by the many replies
right now the game is only good IF you can tweak, overclock, know how to get the most out of your "gaming rig" ect etc etc.
Sorry to break your balls, but many people don't, and it IS like many have said before, the reason why (for example) WoW does so good, because it doesnt need all that but can be played by many.
Right now the performance of the game is very bad for people with "mediocre" hardware (1-2 year old pc's)
I can run EQ2 fine @ 1600 high quality on raids, i can run neverwinter night2, oblivion and many other high quality games PERFECT and smooth.
But this game run CRAP
call it what you want fanbois, blame it on my and everyone else their hardware blablabla
but all i hear ingame is "how the hell do i get the framerate up?" and its true... it IS an issue atm because at low settings the game looks more crap then DaoC and still runs shitty as hell
Sure its very nice to know how to tweak files to play the game better, but it should never be necessary IMO.
A 10 percent increase in fps would raise my frames per second by 1 or 2.... It was reading that comment on the beta forums that helped me decide i wouldn't be playing at launch. Ill get the game in 6 months, when it should have launched.... assuming it survives releasing in such a poor state.
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No matter how bad system performances may look this close to release, looking like you're doing paid advertising is 10x worse.
Hmmmm... it was SoE who got busted for that fake PSP 'blog' site too wasn't it...
Makes one wonder.
But yeah, no way I play an MMO now without reading forums etc for info, and if I see five different "Sticky: How to get your FPS up by 10-20!!!" threads on the official forums or something, that will scream "Try me in six months!" to me.
A shame really. Am so hanging for something new. Something that's a step up though.
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I upgraded to a 6800 to play Company of heroes (top class game), I consider this a medium spec, but in VG I have to play at High performced.. i can just get Balanced but the framerate goes up and down like a yoyo.
I cant imagine any 1 upgrade their systems to play Vanguard. So im sry but VG:DEV's shot themselves in the foot setting requirments so high for a game/company with no history and just a handful of fans, if VG ever wanted to ninja some of the WoW crowed they failed cus you dont need a 8800 or 1950 to play WoW, WoW can happly run on 9600 (i play on a minimac in work sometimes) and it still looks great with bloom effects, pixel shaders on water etc. They might have a better time taking some of the EQ2 guys cus EQ2 also needs a beefy rig also.
Yes VG graphics are TECHNICALY more impressive then WoW more polygons/special effects etc, but what good are flashy gfx if 90% of player have to play with Balanced setting or below and anything thing below Balanced makes VG look worse than runescape, trees look like cardboard cutouts utill your within 5 yards of them.
VG spec'd themselves out of a large playbase, all reviews will talk about the high requirments and many will not play becuase the game looks awful on their systems... as we all know, we all make choices based on gfx as much as gameplay.
From what ive played, VG requirments (gfx card) should be set to: Minimun requirments 9800/5900 recommended 7800/1950
I just hope the VG:Dev's will show some of these threads to SOE to convince them to give VG:Dev's a bit more time to work on gfx engine.
And saying upgrade or shutup dont help, the performance of the game is the 1# issue people have so I cant be ignored.
And believeing that a game released in the year 2007 should work at all on an adapter from 2002 is absolutely ridiculous. People do upgrade to play games, otherwise there would be no need for new technology. You're in for a short sharp shock if you think a 6800 will cut it for most of this years games. It's almost 3 years old now. I'd suggest that some of you go buy a 360 or a PS3. You will not be happy with PC gaming with the expectations you have.
Technically its superior is actually what I meant. What you find appealing is entirely subjective.