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Darkandlight=Vangaurd
Benz00
Member Posts: 122
This game has the same exact start as that game did.
im not trying to bash the game. Its a OK game to play. Not the next gen of mmos at all. I think that the game is still in Alpha stage. Its the simple point and click. You grind lvls out. You group up and raid. I would say that this game already lied to every player out there by sayin its the next gen of MMOs
Its already full of lies. None of the great ideas of vangaurd have been installed.
Im gonna say this game is gonna be a giant grab for money.
i wanna do a poll
Will this game turn into a huge lie to get your money?
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How can anyone who's played this game draw such a conclusion??
... geez man, get some perspective.
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Assume that all things not implemented atm wont be at release and that release will be almost identical to the state of the game atm.
During a Open beta devs only realy have time to fix some bugs and class balance. New features and such wont make it.
MMO's Played: 20 , Closed Beta: 9 , Open Beta: 3 , Currently:Warhammer Beta
Guild: Futilez
Hey, please don't insult DnL like that.
Regal
New features won't make it, but quests, NPC placements, dungeons, etc., are not new features.
I've never had the misfortune to play DnL. Fortunately, my very accurate B.S. meter was around 100% accurate on that one. From what I've heard about DnL, the only part of this game that comes close to being as bad is the frequent disconnects. I'm suspending disbelief on the seriousness of these right now, because it is plausible that they are not really server crashes but the results of server overloads, hence part of the beta-test process.
I've looked at the bug lists after playing a couple of days. It looks like fairly substantial progress is being made at addressing bugs, incomplete world populations, and incomplete features. I will not disagree that this game went to Beta 5 too early, which does not bode well going forwards. But I don't think it's an unplayable disaster, and I don't yet see any evidence that it won't get better.
As far as the hype about "third generation MMO", I don't have any reply. As far as hype goes, I always give it all the credit it deserves. Self-promotion is unfortunately an art form we are all much too familiar with. The size of the world itself is in some ways enough to partially (fractionally) justify that kind of hype. I have ideas about what a "third generation MMO" needs to have in it, and that includes a player-modifiable world in terms of terrain, structures, and storyline, as well as a seamless world. I don't think very many people would agree with me. What is your definition?
there's is absolutley no comparison. vg has content out the ass, dnl has none.
i mean, i can understand being upset that vg may release "unfinished". But in terms of disaster...
comparing vg to dnl is like comparing a bank robbery shooting to The Holocaust. (not to godwin the thread or anything
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Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
Yeah this post should be deleted. The op has absolutley no clue about VG and I doubt has even played it. If you knew anything about the Sigil developers is that they have been open and honest with the community almost to the point of hurting them I believe. They do no sugarcoat anything.....their honestly is hard to find.
someone should crucify the OP by his sack for trying to elevate Dark and Light like this. Dark and Light is a travesty of a game that should never be compared to anything. It only detracts from how miserable the game actually was.
I'll give ya +1 for drama though
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a robot foot stomping on a human face -- forever."
Lawl!
The DNL devs would hardly ever communicate and what little communication we did receive was handed down to AD, not communicated directly. Not to mention, much of it was unreliable if not flat-out wrong.
again, no comparison whatsoever.
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well, ya its pretty obvious there is NO comparison. Before D&L hit Beta, it was hyped higher than any game ever has been on this site pre-release..for a VERY long time
within a day after the closed beta, it dropped below the top 10. Look at it now. Look where Vanguard is, only dropping a tenth of a point due to a new game posted within the past week
seriously though, if your gonna make a comparison or a point try to be a bit less dramatic. nothing will ever compare to the Dark and Light or Mourning release.
Now im not gonna say in Vanguards current state that its gonna come out smelling like a rose, but I think you would have been further ahead comparing the Vanguard release to something like Anarchy Online. Very highly anticipated, with extreme amounts of potential to fall short at premier due to primarily stability and performance issues.
So, Anarchy Online = Vanguard
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a robot foot stomping on a human face -- forever."
I miss DAoC
you said the game is in the alpha stage, then went on to list functional gameplay elements (raids, point and click fighting, level grinding.) what does this have to do with alpha?
also, please define, in your own words, next gen mmo. also quite interested to hear your list of the excluded great ideas.
i'm not sold on the game at this point, but i love to call out emotional little trollbois and watch them squirm.
i'm waiting.
lol, how could you have been saying this for 15 years? 15-15 = ?
anyway, your definition of 3rd gen (apart from player made missions
and why are you posting here? i don't remember the devs ever saying anything about player made missions, or deviating from the standard fantasy mmo model (please link if i missed this somewhere.) you'll save yourself a lot of tension (judging from your posts) if you read up a bit in advance on a game so that you don't get so disappointed (for example, its good to know what the genre is.)
DnL was crashy, the interface was buggy and unfriendly, the content was lacking and it was generally... not fun. I went back two weeks ago in "discovery" mode, game barely changed... More content, but it's still not fun.
VG is currently crashy (though even after a few days I've seen improvements). The interface is very friendly, even WoWesque (a good thing as far as a UI is concerned, imo). It has content, even if it's not extremely interesting (lots of Kill X/Gather X by killing quests). The diplomacy is a nice feature, crafting is good (UI could be improved to reduce clicking).
VG is MUCH nicer than DnL, but as others said, it's not the saviour, WoW-killer or whatever, but it is a nice game. They've done interesting things with the traditional classes and even if not everything they planned is not in there yet, they're still much closer to their promises than DnL was at release. They're also much much more communicative.
If, like me, you're extremely bored of your current MMO, and are looking for something to hold you over till AoC or WAR... VG is worth a look.
The same tired, sad arguments from the same tired, sad people. It's best to just ignore them. They'll still be here months from now hating. It's their nature unfortunately! Someone else put it very well in another thread. If they can't/won't like it for whatever reason (animations, SOE, $hi**y PC etc) then they'll put an even greater amount of effort into trying to destroy it. Honestly I wish these idiots would just F-OFF already. Its one thing to post criticisms but quite another to be the uninformed dullard that the OP quite obviously is.
"God, please help us sinful children of Ivalice.."