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Roleplaying R.I.P.?
Tamalan
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I'm not going to bore you all with an old gamers rant about the 'dumbing down' of the new MMO's.
But it's a sad day indeed when you get /reported in CoV for roleplaying your character, obviously nothing came of it (except probably giving the CSR/GM peeps a good laugh).
Thats it, I wont take up any more of your time
But it's a sad day indeed when you get /reported in CoV for roleplaying your character, obviously nothing came of it (except probably giving the CSR/GM peeps a good laugh).
Thats it, I wont take up any more of your time
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I roleplay through quests, not verbally. Heh...
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This is because 95% of gamers are what we call "Fucking Idiots". Its a clinical term for the less mentally endowed, who simply do not have the imagination required to roleplay anything other than a "Fucking Idiot".
Perhaps someday this will change, but dont bet on it. In the meantime, play some PnP with friends, and be thankful they dont have the same illness.
Though I was called gay, queer, and a homo when I roleplayed as Gilbert. The character wasn't even homosexual either. His mom made him his costume. But I learned to ignore the kiddies.
Anyways, I don't think it's that all the non-RPers are dumb, though some are obviously. It's more-so that they don't have the imagination or the desire to roleplay. I think it would help if more of the avid roleplayers out there took the time to try to show people how much fun it can be and spark more interest. In the end though, it's just not for everyone and some people no matter what aren't going to understand why folks roleplay.
I find it ridiculous though that you would get reported for playing in-character.
I guess the helpless people needed to call upon the gods to stop my displays of power!
It's human evolution, in my opinion. yeah yeah, but hear me out.
Over the years, convienience is what is key and sought-after.
Less and less people have the desire to.. well. work. neither physically, or, sad to say, mentally.
Take a look around you and tell me it's not true.
Machines to do our work, calculators and computers to do our thinking.. it's sparking an interest in people to be less inclined to use their imagination and brain power.
Kids are raised in the fashion of dreaming to grow up and make lots of cash, owning the best personal gadgets that.. well.. do things for us as a people. Cars that talk to us and tell us where to go, music devices that can be carried at al times, somewhat deminishing the grandness of music itself, because rare, beautiful occaisions are most treasured.
People want more Play, and a lot less Role, it seems.
It's the grind. MMO's nowadays are designed to encourage one thing. Grinding. Doing as many quests, killing as many creatures and raid as much as possible. Kiddys love this stuff appearently.
Noone takes the time anymore to really get into their character. Depends on the Lore to btw.
I was playing my new Robotics Mastermind 'Skullatron', I arrived at my mission door to find my path blocked by a group stood chatting. I like to play in character if possible so I said 'Out of my way, puny fleshbags!'. This one guy gets all offended and says 'who are you to tell me what to do etc', I reply 'Bah, cower brief mortal, your pathetic human mewling matters not, stand aside for The Skullatron'. Think I may have added a 'Muahaha' for extra effect :P
Once inside my mission I get a tell from this guy saying im rude and he is going to report my conduct. I didnt even bother replying other than 'Sure go ahead, report me for Role Playing in a Role Playing game'.
Perhaps someday this will change, but dont bet on it. in the mean time, play some MMO's with friends and be thankful they're not RPers.
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Which means I don't try to RP in an MMO -mostly because no MMO really encourages lore and exploration, but leveling and action instead (not necessarily a bad thing).
Very true! Nothing comes close to standard P&P.
The most fun I had with P&P was on a mountain hut with no electricity, no running water and no neighbors. Only snow, trees and rock.
Well as a non roleplayer I feel the need to say I can understand why people roleplay and why they enjoy it while it still not being something I want to do.
Well it depends what he was roleplaying doesn't it?
If a roleplayer is roleplaying a jerk and then acts like that to someone that doesn't know that he is either roleplaying or isn't a roleplayer himself and thinks it is a poor excuse for treating someone else badly it could lead to them reporting you.
or
If a roleplayer was roleplaying something really offensive like a rapest or a pedophile I might just report them myself. They can say it is just roleplaying but if you don't know them how do you know they are and aren't really a messed up person in real life that would do that?
Of course if Tamalan made it absolulty clear he was roleplaying to the guy or didn't keep roleplaying a potential offencive issue around someone it clearly bothered then it's a complete overreaction by that person.
EDIT: and having read Tamalans post about what happen yes it was an overreaction
You even made it obvious that you were role-playing. lol
Maybe the guy just had a really soft spot for the word fleshbags.
True, but I would hope most people understand where the boundaries are for how far they can take things in an MMO. It's not like a pen and paper game where you're sitting with a group of friends who share your peculiar/twisted sense of humor. And if they took things that far, I'd also have to question whether they were actually role-playing or perhaps instead were trying to cause trouble and/or amuse themselves while using RP as an excuse.Yeah most do seem to respect others boundaries. I have run into a fair few that don't but I'm happy to accept them as the annoying minority standing out and sticking in my memory.
You even made it obvious that you were role-playing. lolMaybe the guy just had a really soft spot for the word fleshbags.
Someone was feeling hypersensative to take offence to that all right. The 'Muahaha' alone should have been enough to set the tone as just having a laugh.
I'm not a fan of the 'Sure go ahead, report me for Role Playing in a Role Playing game' justification in a computer game though. RPG in computer games as often as not seems to just refer to the style of interface or progression through the game more then anything else. Look at single player games, my favorite are the ones like Fallout that let you actuely create your person in the game and choose how you'll act through it but for every one of those there are games that are given the 'CRPG' tag where you have to play this set person and you don't even get to choose their responces through the game.
That's called 'Using RP as an excuse to be an arse'.
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It makes me sad that this is the case, but it is. People don't want to use their imaginations for the very reason that modern games make them feel like they don't have to. They have all the pretty graphics that make the world come alive, and sound effects and everything that before, say at a DND table, you wouldn't have for yourself. You would have to use your imagination to make the story come alive, but the game makes the world come alive now, so the story has become progressively less important.
As for me, roleplaying is an absolute must in a game. If I cannot assume the role of a character in the world, and have complete (or nearly complete) immersion into that world, I'm not going to waste my time playing. I don't think there is as much value in just hanging around in a game world, to level up and get better items, which is ultimately what they are all about, if I don't have some vested interest in the character's success.
"There are two great powers, and they've been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit."
John Parry, to his son Will; "The Subtle Knife," by Phillip Pullman
If you look like this, its your duty to say 'Cower, brief mortal' and let out the occasional 'Muhaha!'
PS: I'll destroy you all, you pitiful sacks of skin!
PPS:... Muhahaha!
Not really "Can I help you with something, dear sir" type of character?
While I agree computer RPG's are not something they derive they name from, I can't help but wonder at the animosity and ridicule the RP community receives in a game marked as "RPG"...call it a rant if you want.
It doesn't matter that only 5% of the players are roleplayers and 95% are not.
100% of the players in a MMORPG are in a Role Playing Game. 100% of the players should therefore tolerate roleplaying, regardless of whether or not they choose to participate in it.
Although I do have an issue with people who play MMORPGs but don't roleplay, it is only a small gripe. My issue is with folks who look down upon, get offended by, or are intolerant of people playing a game the way it is supposed to be played.
In the computer game industry RPG seems as much a description of the style of game engine as how you are meant to play it. Just reading RPG off a game box doesn't mean it actuely lets you create your own character or even shape the premade characters opinions that much. Look at the Final Fantasy series, great games but your playing through a story not playing a role.
Still I do try and respect roleplayers in MMOs and not interfear in their fun. I even keep obviously out of game conversations to guild or ooc chat channels but that doesn't mean I'll give a roleplayer a clean bill to behave however they want towards me under the defence of 'I'm a roleplayer'.
I could not have said this better if I wanted to, which is saying alot for me, as I consider myself fairly eloquent. This is the singular most upsetting problem with RPGs. If you play something called a Role-playing game, you shoudl understand some people will play roles. Especially in WoW, on patch days, you will see people from PvP servers making low level alts on RP servers and heckling the players, because they think it's fun. I don't understand why you would look down on someone for taking part in a core aspect of the game.
"There are two great powers, and they've been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit."
John Parry, to his son Will; "The Subtle Knife," by Phillip Pullman