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dargonight
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I was thinking about playing this game(i am getting bored with WoW). Is this a game that will keep me addicted for a while? Also, how easy is it to level up and basicly, what is the game about?
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Ok first of this game is at its core a online version of ELITE if you dont know what that is ask around.
Now it WILL take you about 3 months before you actually get any real fun the reason being is that skill learning [there are no levels] is in real time. Basically what this means is you could be about to go to bed and decide to learn a skill that takes 12 hours to learn you switch off the computer and return 8 hours later much more awake i hope. Your skill at this time will have 4 hours left before its leaned.
Thats basically how you advance your skills. in real time whether you are online of off which means no grinding mobs for skillpoints. The bad news is that some of the good stuff needs advanced skills which at higher levels can take a few days. below are some exaples based on my skills the stuff next to each example is what your time will be if you dont have any learning skills or implants.
Gunnery level 5 - 4 days 6 hours [ 8 Days - 16 hours]
Battleship level 5 - 21 days [ 42 days ]
As you can see there is quite a difference so its a really good idea to spend your first month doing learning skills as it will halph your learning time. Now this is a true sandbox game with a high learning curve. And i will say if you last 6 months not only wuill you be hooked but you will have the potential to be an uber eve palyer if you focus your training to one races ships and wepons.
Ignor peopele like this they are just the EvE equivelent of children at times rather than give you a frank and honest apraisell of how eve is they would rater take the P*** out of you because they see you as just a wow player looking for another grind game which we eve players do tent to dispise as they are all the same now with no real inovation unlike eve which has tried to be different.
Except for the EVE PvP videos, they're so damn boring..
Leveling is as slater stated time based. To use a majority of the basic modules it takes about 1 month of training. I differ in Opinion of having you do the learning skills till you know whether or not you wish to stick with the game., because to be honest during the first month or two you'll still be deciding if you wish to stick with the game. If you do then go for the month of just learning skills as they pretty much halt any progress ability wise for your character.
As for what the game is about, If you ever played the old privateer games its like that only more oriented towards "capital ships" compared to fighters/small ships. there are large amounts of active and passive player interaction with the economy and a large section of the games politics ran by players. How influential you are in the game really depends on how smnart/charasmatic you are.
EVE is something you really need to dive in and ask questions on the things you find you want to know more about as the game system is just a massive overwhelming beast of options.
Eve is about the antithesis of WoW. Just your mere impatience for some posters shows you won't like EVE (nothing against you). I know I didn't.
Want a traditional fantasy (not scifi) MMO'ers take on EVE? Slow, empty, cold, calculating, etc. It's much more akin to http://www.industryplayer.com than WoW. It's all about stats, planning, courier jobs, auction buy/sell type of stuff than the type of PvP and PvE you are used to. You never see your humanoid character. You aren't the actual ship but you can buy/fit those a little, etc. You are basically an oblong pod... LOL
As has already been said eve's training is timebased to learn skills. now a common misconception is that you are never going to be asgood as a beta player because of it wich is absolutely untrue all it means is he will have more options than you he might be able to fly all the noncap ships in the game while you can only fly one race.
eve IS unforgiving wich alot of people dislike... and alot of people like (i like the risk). the risk is real non of this i die in PVP and respawn in town with no loss crap. you get blown up in eve you lose that ship and likely everything on it (not sobad in missions as you can bookmark your can turn the mission off and get some of it back.
almost every aspect of eve including the market and story are player driven. If your smart about it and work hard enough for it you can effect things
The PVP aspect of EVE is likely the best on the market. its hard to go into detail its one of those things you need to try for yourself
Also EVE requires 2 things alot of people dont have brains and patience.
every aspect of the game is intertwined the industrial players have an effect on what we combat players do as it is vice versa
It takes time and youll never do and see everything there is but your rewarded by an expirience you cant find anywhere else there are no other games with the level of complexity and a community as strong as the one in eve
Eve is about the antithesis of WoW. Just your mere impatience for some posters shows you won't like EVE (nothing against you). I know I didn't.
Want a traditional fantasy (not scifi) MMO'ers take on EVE? Slow, empty, cold, calculating, etc. It's much more akin to http://www.industryplayer.com than WoW. It's all about stats, planning, courier jobs, auction buy/sell type of stuff than the type of PvP and PvE you are used to. You never see your humanoid character. You aren't the actual ship but you can buy/fit those a little, etc. You are basically an oblong pod... LOL
Well, I don't know what industryplayer is, but I am an Eve player, albeit a relatively new one. My first impression of Eve was much as you describe it. However, I discovered that impression was governed by my expectation that it would be like most other mmos. In truth, Eve is as action-packed or as slow and calm as you want it to be. The new changes in starting skill points make beginning players much more viable than they used to be.
You have no compulsion to actually be in the game except to earn ISK because skill training is a passive activity. But, there are a lot more things to Eve than just "killing the monsters" and you won't be able to do everything right away.
As a new player, I joined a small corporation and went about the business of earning ISK by mining and running Level 1 missions. Yawn...Then, I went on a few level 3 and 4 missions with some corporate members and was blown away by the complexity of battle. The make-up of the "gang" turned out to be very similar to groups in traditional mmos. One person/ship was the main tank. His job was to get all the enemies firing on him while keeping out of optimum range of their guns and missiles. Another ship was a missile boat who kept out of reach of the enemy and bombarded them with missiles - kind of like a wizard throwing fire bolts or something. We even had a "priest" in the guise of a ship that could "heal" our ships, buff us up and debuff the enemy, break enemy countermeasures, slow them down, etc. Then there were the "rogues" - the small, fast frigates (me at the time) that can easily avoid the bigger ships, but are deadly against the smaller ships that usually carry jamming equipment (the enemy healers).
The difference between Eve and a regular fantasy mmo is that you don't start out with the skills to do any of these things directly. You have to learn them. Choices made at character creation will give you a leg up in chosen skill areas so you'll be able to learn more advanced things right away. The problem with Eve is that you won't find any "templates" anywhere to tell you what you should be training for any particular role. There is nothing more frustrating to finally figure out that you need to install X on your ship to be more effective but before you can do that you need skills A, B, and C all trained to level 3 and you currently have none of them.
It's also a pain in the butt to set up your character to be a "crafter" or "trader" only to discover that, in general, you need lots of ISK to even get started. It's important for a beginning player to do two things no matter what else you want your character to do: defend yourself (or run) and fight effectively.
Industry palyer is basically an economy/buisness simulator.
Which is part of what eve is about cornering the market.
How good a group has almost nothing to do with the sum of the individual capability of those involved. Every group is a creature external to those who make up it's parts. Unlike the avatars involved, it is both mortal and has the ability to be spectacular.
Really though, success in EVE revolves around your moral limits, and how you instinctively interact with other living breathing players. Intelligence plays only a small role. Cleverness is serviceable for everything, sufficient in nothing. As a result, your real character, the sum of your habits tends to reveal itself. If you pay attention, it will invariably surprise you.
You can lose at EVE. You can struggle at EVE. Fortunes are promises written on the wind. It wouldn't be worth bothering with otherwise.
I subscribed to EVE just before and after the latest update came out and while growing up loved ELITE so i i kind of expected it to be fly to A buy cargo Fly to Be kill pirates enroute deliver cargo
I have to say i was pleasantly surprised and found the game an enjoyable experience, i set my learning and as someone mentioned earlier it was passive and i hardly noticed it, i flew the first missions (competed with the other new players) and enjoyed it, i then switched to advisor missions and started boosting my standing with them, I cant say i found anything wrong with this, i mean i was even a bit naughty and when another new player grabbed my loot i proceeded to attack them until they asked why i had attacked them and why CONCORD wasnt stopping me (for those that have played we all know with noobie guns it takes like a week of sundays to do any serious damage to another new players ship)
I loved this game, im just sad i dont have time to dedicate to it fully but that may change soon and i will become a more serious player and actually subscribe for this
This game is is good and those people who moan otherwise probably more used to playing fantasy MMO or Solo games
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