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AoC will fail due to it being console AND pc.

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  • RollotamasiRollotamasi Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 898
    Just want to make sure I have this straight.  AoC is going to fail because they have the ability to reach MORE of a player base?

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    -Currently playing EvE and Global Agenda

  • coffeecoffee Member Posts: 2,007
    Chatting might be hard but i guess wha they will do is have 360 servers and PC servers. I hope PC gamers can play on 360 servers with a 360 pad.



    PC gamers will use keyboard more to chat 360 gamers will use voice.  Maybe AoC will do some fancy speach regonition so what you say on your mic will be turned into text? just an idea.

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  • checkthis500checkthis500 Member Posts: 1,236
    AoC will succeed because of that very reason.  The combat system is designed for a gamepad. 



    The game is about hack and slash, blood, and boobies.  As we can see in the latest gameplay vids, female characters in the game are going to be wearing next to nothing. 



    It'll be a huge success on consoles because of the amount of money the average PC gamer will have to spend just updating his computer to be able to play the game.



    A 400 dollar XBOX 360 is going to sound pretty sweet, once people start pricing that 400 dollar video card along with that 500 dollar Processor. :)



    The game will be a major hit among the Console crowd.  I honestly think it won't do very well on the PC, but will be sold out on Console.

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  • jezvinjezvin Member UncommonPosts: 804
    I don't think AoC is going to be the big game that everyone is saying it will be, but I think that has nothing to do with the fact that it will be played on console. as far as I know FFXI is doing fine and you can play that on PS2 if you want to.

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  • erinyserinys Member UncommonPosts: 395
    Originally posted by checkthis500

    AoC will succeed because of that very reason.  The combat system is designed for a gamepad. 

    And that is exactly what it will make it FAIL, not succeed lol..

    damn there are no good games around anymore



  • merv808merv808 Member UncommonPosts: 511
    I don't understand the logic behind this post. FFXI is a great game and even this far after launch can still be considered a success. You can play that game on both PS2 and 360 and it change the way the game plays.



    What is your reasoning for saying it will fail? This I gotta hear.
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  • random11random11 Member UncommonPosts: 765
    OP! If only I could argue as well as you!



    Console version will come out 1 year later. The game will be complex, remember AO, was that not complex enough for the average gamer?!



    AoC will, in my opinion, be the best of 2007.
  • confusedgoatconfusedgoat Member Posts: 7
    It's going to be the next best thing since sliced bread.



    It states it's a "Next-Generation" game, meaning it'll bring to the PC everything that console games used to overpower it with. It also means that it's aimed at the higher spec PC's, not the crappy ones. While you say "it's going to be a console game", I highly doubt it. Online games have an always will be better adapted for a PC user than for a console gamer.



    If you look at the video footage, it's not as "hack and slash" as you might think. Bashing buttons faster will give you no advantage.



    In all honesty though, i reckon anyone who will want to play this on a console will invest in a keyboard and use it to play instead.



    It's definately going to be a hit among mmorpg fans, it's one of the first mmorpgs to come out with new ideas and put them to proper use. It offers a new experience that WoW and DAoC can't give you. 
  • RageaholRageahol Member UncommonPosts: 1,127
    Originally posted by confusedgoat

    It's going to be the next best thing since sliced bread.



    It states it's a "Next-Generation" game, meaning it'll bring to the PC everything that console games used to overpower it with. It also means that it's aimed at the higher spec PC's, not the crappy ones. While you say "it's going to be a console game", I highly doubt it. Online games have an always will be better adapted for a PC user than for a console gamer.



    If you look at the video footage, it's not as "hack and slash" as you might think. Bashing buttons faster will give you no advantage.



    In all honesty though, i reckon anyone who will want to play this on a console will invest in a keyboard and use it to play instead.



    It's definately going to be a hit among mmorpg fans, it's one of the first mmorpgs to come out with new ideas and put them to proper use. It offers a new experience that WoW and DAoC can't give you. 



    man with DAoC's RVR  that was a good idea  just an old one now

    and i agree  comp will always be better then any system its betetr for playing on the internet  the game on the 360 will sell  but for me the comp experience is always better.

    and you wont relaly have to expand you computer that much

    i feel more people will be play the game on DX9 and useing windows XP then bothering to get vista and DX10

    this game will be the best of 07 for two reasons  its PVP will be the best out of any game out there and any game comming out sure WAR is backed up by being made with EA Mythic but they will just do the RVR thing again and it will be the common PVP and the guild system it bring peopel together defend cities and defending borderkeeps from enemy guilds

     

    this game is perfect and I will be playing it on the computer not the xbox      ohh and  this game wont fail!

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  • LuthgarLuthgar Member Posts: 27

     

    Originally posted by erinys

    Originally posted by checkthis500

    AoC will succeed because of that very reason.  The combat system is designed for a gamepad. 

    And that is exactly what it will make it FAIL, not succeed lol..

    damn there are no good games around anymore



    This makes no sense to me at all.  Your trying to tell me that the new combat system is a bad thing?  The very thing that hooked a major part of this game's following.  Ok, if you want, go back to your sad children's mmo, with dumbed down combat.  "Right-click, oh this will be a minute think I'll go make a hot pocket.........ok there's one, right click the next, eat my pocket........repeat. 

    BTW if you ever do get tired of it those, feel free to step into AoC, I would love to remove that empty space between your ears from your shoulders.

  • HashbrickHashbrick Member RarePosts: 1,851


    Originally posted by Luthgar

    Originally posted by erinys
    Originally posted by checkthis500
    AoC will succeed because of that very reason. The combat system is designed for a gamepad.
    And that is exactly what it will make it FAIL, not succeed lol..
    damn there are no good games around anymore




    This makes no sense to me at all. Your trying to tell me that the new combat system is a bad thing? The very thing that hooked a major part of this game's following. Ok, if you want, go back to your sad children's mmo, with dumbed down combat. "Right-click, oh this will be a minute think I'll go make a hot pocket.........ok there's one, right click the next, eat my pocket........repeat.
    BTW if you ever do get tired of it those, feel free to step into AoC, I would love to remove that empty space between your ears from your shoulders.

    I agree, reaching out to the huge 360 community is a plus how can this be a downfall? The 360 has more than enough power to run this game beautifully. In fact I'd get it for my 360 before the PC anyday, gamepad + keyboard setup = supreme gameplay. This is the third gen game we have been waiting for and it will be great or I'll ummm...hmm what will I do... Well I'll leave that up for you guys to decide. Anyway the OP needs to grow some balls and throw in his/her 2 cents. Peace.

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  • lykkenlykken Member UncommonPosts: 97
  • brusebruse Member Posts: 20
    Do we even know if they will play on the same servers yet?

    Take my word for it, do not trust me!

  • KarandorKarandor Member Posts: 113
    Ok, I just read through the faq on the combat systems and what is so revolutionary about it? You can swing in 6 dfiiferent directions and it's realtime? All MMOs are real time and everyone let's you try to get out of the way and such. The only thing I can see that will be revolutionary is that if there is any lag at all this game will be horrible to play. Think that vertical slah hit? Nope he was actually 2 feet to the right. My bet is that everyone starts using horizontal slashes to get the greatest chance to hit people during combat. Your dodge and block chances are STILL determined by stats. If dodge and block are determined by stats... hmm is it really realtime? Combat at that point turns into WoW with 6 different attack animations.



    A lot of it sounds cool but on large servers you can't keep the latency low enough unless characters move slowly.



    All in all it sounds like a gimmick to me. I won't deny that I could be wrong but nothing I've read makes it sound so super amazing.



    I doubt it will fail but my guess is it will not do super incrediby well. Of course not much coming out anytime soon tickles my fancy. Maybe WAR and I may try Vanguard (the non-instanced dungeon crawls are pretty fun.)
  • CleffyIICleffyII Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,440

    Well if history tells use anything about mmo's released on the Console and PC; then it won't fail and will atleast do moderately well.  The only games I can think of released on Console and PC are Final Fantasy XI and Phantasy Star Online which have lasted.

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  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857

    All right, let me put it to you this way Karandor.

    Potential lag issues aside, what are you doing in this game as opposed to nearly every other MMO on the market? Simple answer, making sure your next blow hits in an efficient manner that causes as much damage as possible, or at least gains you an advantage. Most MMORPGs you activate the autoattack and wait untill your opponent is dead, possibly hitting a skill or feat button every ten or so seconds. Here, you must be involved, and you need to have a good bit of forethought and planning to go with each strike to be effective.

    Now, as to the lag, yes if it becomes a real problem it will at least nearly kill the game. However, so long as FC keeps server lag on their side to a minimum, and people do their part to keep client side lag down as well, there should not be major problems.

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  • RageaholRageahol Member UncommonPosts: 1,127
    its true  if there is major lag  then the game will die   but all and all i cant see this game doing bad will the following it already has and such  there will already be a ton of people playing it already i just cant wait till it comes out

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  • sheeshsheesh Member Posts: 330
     The game will do just fine. And, if you dont like the controls on the 360, just hook up a keyboard and mouse.
  • peenkpeenk Member Posts: 270
    Originally posted by lykken


    http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=16217&type=wmv&pl=game
     
    Here you are, latest on that
    Thx for posting this.

    After seeing the Dev's commentary and especially the combat, I will not be getting this game unless I test it out and read plenty of reviews. 

    Honestly, if thats what you people call "intuitive" combat thats different from "pressing one button and watching your character attack" then you havent played many games.  I havent seen one "special" move used by that warrior (or what ever is the class).  From the first fight to the last fight the character used exactly the same animation.  And my first thought was that indeed, lag will make this game unplayable, and later I read the rest of the thread to see that I am not the only one who thinks so.



    And unless you just HAVE to get some Connan lore I'd rather get Hell Gate: London.  It looks to be similar and a better game than this crappy combat. 

    I cant wait to see how archer/mages/healers will do in this game cause I am sure it will be quiet intuitively funny.

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  • CleffyIICleffyII Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,440
    Thats one of the main things I am looking forward to.  To see how badly archers and mages get it.  The people who play them in other games usually always seem to be dicks; so it would be nice to see them get pwnt and whining.  Don't wait for Hellgate: London.  I heard it sucked; just had a fancy cinematics scene that sucks people in, like SUN and Dark & Light.

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  • DowieDowie Member Posts: 280
    Is it confirmed that 360 and PC players will play on thesame servers? any link?



    I can just say that it will be a dream come true, think of it. You are sitting by your computer and it's getting late, but you really want to get up to next level... Well! just go to bed and boot up that 360 and gain that level.
  • Hou-FistHou-Fist Member Posts: 16
    HOW is it going to be a downfall for the game? And if you all start bitching about this stupid thing look at the real facts.



    -Same servers? Try to find the truth before assuming

    -Who said that it was made for the gamepad? There are videos online showing that it works perfectly fine with the mouse and 360 controller

    -Does anybody actually mind if this is happening? Will affect the actual gamplay of this?
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