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Bahemoth
Member Posts: 126
in EVE Online
So I figured posting our new player experiences this will serve 2 purposes first they tend to make good stories and stories are always fun and secondly it may give potentialy new players an insight into what they can expect their first few weeks or months.
Well I belong to a gaming org ( www.houseforsaken.com ) I was currently looking for a new MMO to play and was on our TS and saw a channel called eve. So I drop in and start asking questions findout that we were playing host to an eve corp and that there is a 14day trial and download it booted it up and get told by more than 1 person to do the tutorial and that yes its long and kinda borring but VERY informative. So I finished the tutorial and tried in all my newbness to do missions in my velator i managed to get a couple done and then the lvl1 version of worlds collide and ofcourse being like a day old in a velator tring that mission is just asking for it I lost my velator. well I'm on TS with my friends and their corp right now so were talking it up and I say i died so they are like "your a cool guy so come down here and you can join up with us" so i didnt know anything about shuttles or that i got my velator back so me in my little space acorn proceed to fly all the way from oursul to pator the safe route while i fix supper. Well I get there and Find our offices and put in my application and because i was a friend of a corp mate for years and had been bsing on TS wityh them for a few hours they went ahead and accepted me and started teaching me how to play and told me to do my learning first all the way to advanced 4 (this is befor the minimum reqs for the adv skills where changed) and that they would supply the adv skills for me. so I go about my learning and soaking up all the knowledge i can on how to fit ships. well about 2 weeks later we get into a war with a pirate corp so I pull out my incursus and fly out there with them after learning the basics of tackling the war went pretty dull as the pirates chose to not engage us 80% of the time. about a week later the war ends. at this time one of our ammar pilots is doing missions in penirgman and asks if anyone wants to fly with him because flying alone is borring (and it is) so I'm like sure so i fly up there and learn how to effectivley help as a newb in a LVL4 mission by killing all of the scrambling frigs while he focused on the bigger things. Its been almost a year since i started now
anyway thats my first month in EVE it was fun. I understand that my new player expirience isnt that of soemone starting normaly as i had contacts already however i do make it a point to help people who are new as i was given somuch help to start its only right that i try to pass on that kindness
Well I belong to a gaming org ( www.houseforsaken.com ) I was currently looking for a new MMO to play and was on our TS and saw a channel called eve. So I drop in and start asking questions findout that we were playing host to an eve corp and that there is a 14day trial and download it booted it up and get told by more than 1 person to do the tutorial and that yes its long and kinda borring but VERY informative. So I finished the tutorial and tried in all my newbness to do missions in my velator i managed to get a couple done and then the lvl1 version of worlds collide and ofcourse being like a day old in a velator tring that mission is just asking for it I lost my velator. well I'm on TS with my friends and their corp right now so were talking it up and I say i died so they are like "your a cool guy so come down here and you can join up with us" so i didnt know anything about shuttles or that i got my velator back so me in my little space acorn proceed to fly all the way from oursul to pator the safe route while i fix supper. Well I get there and Find our offices and put in my application and because i was a friend of a corp mate for years and had been bsing on TS wityh them for a few hours they went ahead and accepted me and started teaching me how to play and told me to do my learning first all the way to advanced 4 (this is befor the minimum reqs for the adv skills where changed) and that they would supply the adv skills for me. so I go about my learning and soaking up all the knowledge i can on how to fit ships. well about 2 weeks later we get into a war with a pirate corp so I pull out my incursus and fly out there with them after learning the basics of tackling the war went pretty dull as the pirates chose to not engage us 80% of the time. about a week later the war ends. at this time one of our ammar pilots is doing missions in penirgman and asks if anyone wants to fly with him because flying alone is borring (and it is) so I'm like sure so i fly up there and learn how to effectivley help as a newb in a LVL4 mission by killing all of the scrambling frigs while he focused on the bigger things. Its been almost a year since i started now
anyway thats my first month in EVE it was fun. I understand that my new player expirience isnt that of soemone starting normaly as i had contacts already however i do make it a point to help people who are new as i was given somuch help to start its only right that i try to pass on that kindness
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At the start of Beta 5 there was only 1 region called genesis. There were no npc rats and the only ships available were frigates. All ores took up the same amount of space and the minerals you got from the were all over the place, the game was very much a work in progress but I still felt a tinge of something great in there. Over the course of beta 5 they patched in a ton of changes, the game seemed to progress a long way and they eventually introduced a single cruiser to the game, the osprey. I remember I first saw one when I was mining away in my probe frigate and a tester warped into a belt beside me in one. I spent about 10 minutes just orbiting his ship admiring it. I believe this was right before the start of Beta 6.
I've been playing ever since.
I started out as soon as I read about it on the forums. The descriptions fed out by Lemonde and others on the forums and on IRC seemed really original. A lot of those things never panned out, but we always lived in expectation. The idea of being a bad guy in a capitalism sim always struck a chord with me as I've always been something of a commie. My grandma was a member of the Party and still has the card, so it's traditional in our family.
I've played EVE off and on for ages. Never knew anybody when I started out, and I tend to wear out my welcome pretty fast wherever I go. Either by overabundance of participation, or from reeling it all back after a bad spell and just being a passive member. I'm not easily compressed into just filling a certain role at the most convenient time of mgmt. Other times, I tend to have lots of ideas, and generally make enemies by implementing them. I keep telling myself that one of these days, I'll start my own corp. But you know how that goes. Everybody looks over the edge of the bowl, but not everybody has the idea, the PR, the ego, the knowledge and the hardware in the right amounts and at the same time to pull it off.
I am pretty much a newbish corp hopper for life.
I'd like to take this moment to thank SOE and LucasArts for ruining SWG so that I could play this fantastic game.
"A ship-of-war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell
I agree with you Taram, I played SWG constantly until the CU, tried and failed a few times to come back with the CU and later the NGE, but realized that a once wonderful game was lost forever. And I too thank SOE for making a switch of games necessary. Otherwise I never would have found this gem!
But I didn't always consider EVE to be such a gem. I started last summer with a free trial, and then played for about 6 weeks past that. I just wasn't "getting it", got bored, and evantually quit.
Then, some time before the Christmas holiday I reactivated my account. I decided to focus my skill training more and to try some new things. I did some trading for awhile and made quite a few million on salvage trading. I've gotten more socially active and I will likely join an RP corp this weekend.
But maybe most importantly, I have been thinking about the game. The more I think, the more possibilities I see, the more freedom to act, the more reason to play. I guess you could say that when I came back to EVE, I fell in live!
Eschi
I like the depth of the game, and the freedom of it. Finding a good corp and making some great friends really helps a lot.
I started back in the Castor days in February 2004 and it started after I have heard about the game from a friend.
Back then there where peak with like 5000-6000 people (compared today with 33 000 people), I started out as a miner and we where
several people in our startercorp that worked together.
I remember after getting my first cruiser and I had to work hard for it :-), I mean first I where mining in a imicus back and forth collecting minerals so I could afford a Iteron mk 2 eventually and then my first cruiser... a Vexor.
So we desided to go low sec mining rare minerals, me in my cruiser... ofcourse fully insured. After we came to the system of choise we begun mining.
I remember we encountered 2 pirates and my first pvp... ofcourse, the two lights coming towards my ship really did not make it much of a fight :-)
Well that was my first bite of EVE-Online, and I have loved it ever since.
I started in the Ryddinjorn system on July 1st, 2004, about 1 year after EVE started (that system still holds a special place in my heart). Did the tutorial (much simpler back then) and my first agent's missions. I also occupied myself with mining in my newbie ship, during which I met this nice lady named Karryl Korzan mining in a bestower industrial. We had a nice chat and chatted on and off in the following months. I remember on the end of my first day (at downtime) was a tempest flying into the sole station there.
Anyway, despite my first wish to go it alone. The second day I looked at a forum in the in game browser (I think separate from the eve-online.com forums) and found a corp called Solstice Systems Development Concourse (SSDC). Had a nice chat with the CEO Veinmail and joined them.
They were a very generous group. I was helped extensivly by a director there named Ammundan. That corp taught me the meaning of generousity in EVE and a friendly communal attitude within the corp (everyone got an equal share of mining ops and generally helped each other out).
That first day with SSDC I joined in a low sec mining op in Hakisalki (a 0.2 sec system in the metropolis region) and served as a hauler. It was a lot of fun, got to know my corp mates and generally had a good time.
Hakisalki was my home for a good long while. I even took up the role of scavanger a week or two, where pretty much I would take a frigate (a probe) around the belts and scavange the abandoned loot cans. It was pretty cool, didn't have buy much equipment for awhile. I also set up some secure cans around some belts and ninja mined into them.
For the most part, it was pretty quiet there. There was a number of other lawful corporations in that system and we got along well. Occasionally there was a pirate there, and this particular incident is noteworthy.
I was mining in a rupture named the Providence (with missle launchers as defense) on day while another corp mate (Jackswastedlife I believe (his name is a sorrowful tribute to the demise of Earth & Beyond)) was mining in an Armageddon. Suddenly he started to call for help because this pirate in a cruiser was attacking him. So I come warping in, lock him and start firing my missiles at this guy. He warps off and hangs at the game.
Now, being the newbie that I was. I approached him at the gate (I was a bit pissed at this guy for attacking my corp mate), I locked him and fired.
I would imagine the EVE vets here would understand what happened next, it was a humbling and hard lesson learnt.
But, there is a nice epilouge to this story, that pirate attacked someone else and then we to a gate and himself was wiped off the map by the sentry guns!
Poetic Justice FTW!
We also went on occasional corp ops in Vale of the Silent (a 0.0 region) to rat hunt. Those were a lot of fun and had an enjoyable element of risk too. It started to wet my appetite for 0.0 space. Soon I learned of this one region of space that was run by an alliance called the "Confederation of Free Stars" or CFS.
That story, and the entrance into my current corp, is posted at this thread.
Woohoo, I'm a 5 star member now!
I've been an online gamer since 1994 and found myself burned out on mmos late last year. I stopped playing for the most part, but began spending more time on mmo news sites. One day, an article caught my eye about the first Titan being built in Eve. I thought it was an ugly ship, but after reading about what it took to build it (materials and skills), I was a little intrigued. You mean there was something you couldn't achieve in 2-3 weeks of non-stop play?? Some things that could actually take years to do regardless of how frequently you play??
A few weeks later, I read about the big money scam that took place (one player absconded with billions of invested ISK) and although I have no interest in such things, the fact that neither game management nor most of the players were going ballistic over it gave me hope. Hope that there was no PNP (play nice policy) in place and that the players were not treated like nursery school kids and expected to behave that way. A game where the players are actually treated like adults and expected to act that way, for better or worse? Interesting concept! A game where each player was expected to be knowledgeable enough and careful enough to avoid being scammed, no matter how sophisticated the scam may be? Unheard of!!
The clincher was the destruction of the aforesaid Titan by a rival alliance. Granted, the fact that the Titan was unmanned and virtually dead in the water sort of dampened the coolness of that event, but hey, it happened!! Wow! Something it took years to achieve can be destroyed in a day! Dominance does not mean permanence - and not because the dominating players get bored and go away. I've never been a pvp'er and I doubt the pvp in Eve will attract me any more than the pvp in any other game, but it certainly seems a lot more exciting - and outcomes more uncertain.
Great risk and great rewards. Behave badly at your own risk. I had to play this game.
So, I download the free trial and enter the game. Did the tutorial 2 or 3 times. Ran a few missions. Died in the When Worlds Collide mission (which I suggest all newbies avoid). I thought that the only skills available in game were those I had listed in my character panel. Surprise, surprise. I joined the Recruiting channel, talked to several corporate representatives and joined a small start-up corp with wonderful people who helped me begin to understand the game.
I've been playing for about 3 months now and there are certain things I'm happy about in Eve. The training can be frustrating because there is no way to speed it up. However, the fact that I don't have to actually be playing, but can train offline, reduces a lot of that frustration. I can enter the game, mine for a while or run a few missions, set a skill to train, and leave. No pressure, real or perceived, to stay online and "play." Nobody can tell what I know or how much I know about it until they actually engage me in battle. This puts a damper on a lot of gratuitous fragging.
If you want a game that actively seeks to keep you in the game, Eve will probably NOT be the game for you. What you do, when you do it and how much or how long you do it is entirely up to you. I think this, more than most anything else, is what disconcerts most mmo players. It really puts you off-balance because you're not forced in any particular direction, either by your choice in class or desire to be better (level). The hardest part of Eve is developing patience in training and learning to concentrate your training in the proper direction for what you want to do.
For me, Eve was the perfect game for a burned out mmo'er. For once, I felt comfortable NOT logging into the game and comfortable in the fact that my friends will not out-pace me to the point that we can no longer "hunt" together. All in all, Eve has been a welcome change for me.
An article in PC gamer sparked my intrest in EVE. http://eve.klaki.net/heist/ maybe the operation Callasi was talking about.
So I signed up for a trial with full intentions to be an undercover/covert opts agent. But to my suprise I ended up a trader!
My first experiences in EVE was varied and mixed. I made so many mistakes, like flying a shipment of spirits into Amarr space that cost me 10m in fines, that I had earn't over my trail period. That left me with a debt, that I had to work off by doing missions. Then I found a great trade route between 2 station (2 jumps, 1m profit one way 500k the other) It did mean flying into low sector space, all was quiet then the pirates appeared. I was blockaded in a station for over 2 days finally a window opened I made a quick dash for safe space. Travelling through 0.0 to be jumped on by 14 ships (might had been less, but hard to count when your shaking), nearly giving me a heart attack. After about a month I join a PvE Corp and the game opened up, should have joined earlier. Its now 6 months later and 2bn in bank, I'm still learning new things about the game and am about to switch from being a trader and joining a merc corp.
The game still is fresh and am excited as I'm about to embark on my new career path with all my skills in place and gameplay I only dabbled in, things can only get better and if they don't I could always try mining.