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My Thoughts on WAR!

Hey everybody ive been following WAR for awhile and been playing DAOC for awhile along with other MMORPG's...This game looks really awsome and i cannot wait for it to launch allthough it will be awhile i will have to sitback and wait......Ok now straight to the point..In regards to the people who think EA Is going to ruin WAR!....EA has pretty much no role of making/devolping this game if you would read the offical articles you would see that EA Is mostly funding//going to be seen in the backround I.E Distrubuting/Advertising ..IMO i acutally see this as a good thing simply cause Mythic will have a bigger budget with the game..ALSO to the people who say this is copying World Of Warcraft....If anything WoW has Copied THIS GAME!! Well the idea anyways...Warhammer has 30years of lore to work off of and is the original is this field..So stop saying This title is copying WoW

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MMORPG's Under my belt:UO,EQ1,EQ2,SWG,L2,COH,COV,WoW,AC2,Shadowbane,DAOC,FFXI,GW,D&D,V:SOH,LOTR:O

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  • VolkmarVolkmar Member UncommonPosts: 2,501

    what the heck you talking abour? EA BOUGHT mythic. so EA is developing, marketing, advertising, publishing and distributing this game. Yes, it is the ex-mythic crew, but they are part of EA now.

    it is like saying "geez, i am so happy that it is EA Games doing this software, so EA won't have much input on it"

    Did you know EA MYthic has been put in charge of UO too? Changes have happened, don't deny it.

    Luckly, so far, they have been good changes, hope it continues this way

    "If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"



  • ZappyZappy Member Posts: 65
    The worry many put into this issue is that if there was a choice between a good game and money, EA will always chose money. Somehow they dont see that good games also equals money.
  • DruNk_DwArF2DruNk_DwArF2 Member UncommonPosts: 196
    Originally posted by Volkmar


    what the heck you talking abour? EA BOUGHT mythic. so EA is developing, marketing, advertising, publishing and distributing this game. Yes, it is the ex-mythic crew, but they are part of EA now.
    it is like saying "geez, i am so happy that it is EA Games doing this software, so EA won't have much input on it"
    Did you know EA MYthic has been put in charge of UO too? Changes have happened, don't deny it.
    Luckly, so far, they have been good changes, hope it continues this way
    Yes i agree with you they are apart of EA now but in a way they still are mythic lol hence the title of the comapny EAMythic :-P...I just hope the good changes continue to come as you said.

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    MMORPG's Under my belt:UO,EQ1,EQ2,SWG,L2,COH,COV,WoW,AC2,Shadowbane,DAOC,FFXI,GW,D&D,V:SOH,LOTR:O

  • sjonasjona Member Posts: 194

    not that im a fanboy of EA or anything, but i dont see the big fuzz.

    EA do have their share of the big turndowns, but they also got some greater games(like black and white, battlefield, need for speed, the sims), so im not into the whole EA is the devil thing.
    i dont belive a company - even if they belived in making money before costumer service - would just throw crap into the game, because thats a "good" thing - or stopping a completely good game from seeing the daylight.

    i HAVE heard they stopped a game(dont recall the name.. UO2?), and every single 35 year old MMO player went mad, but maybe, just maybe, the game didnt really cut it for the normal standards.

  • VideoXPGVideoXPG Member Posts: 268
    I for one can't really hate EA as much as I have anymore. I was skeptical when the news (months ago BTW) came out, but every source since then states EA has been hands off with Mythic.
  • WizardBlackWizardBlack Member Posts: 156

    Previous poster has the following for signature:

    "If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"

    You know, I like the following rendition of that saying much better. And I bet the WAR Bright Wizard would agree:

    If you give a man a fire, you keep him warm for a day. If you light him on fire, you keep him warm for the rest of his life.

     

  • VolkmarVolkmar Member UncommonPosts: 2,501
    Originally posted by sjona


    not that im a fanboy of EA or anything, but i dont see the big fuzz.
    EA do have their share of the big turndowns, but they also got some greater games(like black and white, battlefield, need for speed, the sims), so im not into the whole EA is the devil thing.

    i dont belive a company - even if they belived in making money before costumer service - would just throw crap into the game, because thats a "good" thing - or stopping a completely good game from seeing the daylight.
    i HAVE heard they stopped a game(dont recall the name.. UO2?), and every single 35 year old MMO player went mad, but maybe, just maybe, the game didnt really cut it for the normal standards.


    just for completeness and information purposes this is the so-far list of things related to MMorpg done by EA:

    UO: bought Origin. the creator, Lord British decide he had enough and leave, game changed totally.

    Motor City Online: game killed

    SimsOnline: the biggest pc game franchise EVER. the mmorpg was a disaster and soon became a online brothel.

    UO2: stopped development

    Earth & beyond: Killed

    Ultima X: Odyssey: stopped development.

    did i missed something? Yes, EA makes decent games, but in the mmorpg market, so far, their track record is disastrous. Hopefully WAR will be the title that changes that, but just look up. 2 games killed, 2 games stopped development and 1 game changed so much that it is unrecognizable.... of them all, only 1 game is still going and it was made by an external company BEFORE getting acquired by EA. you take your own conclusions.

    "If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"



  • WizardBlackWizardBlack Member Posts: 156
    Originally posted by Volkmar

    Originally posted by sjona


    not that im a fanboy of EA or anything, but i dont see the big fuzz.
    EA do have their share of the big turndowns, but they also got some greater games(like black and white, battlefield, need for speed, the sims), so im not into the whole EA is the devil thing.

    i dont belive a company - even if they belived in making money before costumer service - would just throw crap into the game, because thats a "good" thing - or stopping a completely good game from seeing the daylight.
    i HAVE heard they stopped a game(dont recall the name.. UO2?), and every single 35 year old MMO player went mad, but maybe, just maybe, the game didnt really cut it for the normal standards.


    just for completeness and information purposes this is the so-far list of things related to MMorpg done by EA:

    UO: bought Origin. the creator, Lord British decide he had enough and leave, game changed totally.

    Motor City Online: game killed

    SimsOnline: the biggest pc game franchise EVER. the mmorpg was a disaster and soon became a online brothel.

    UO2: stopped development

    Earth & beyond: Killed

    Ultima X: Odyssey: stopped development.

    did i missed something? Yes, EA makes decent games, but in the mmorpg market, so far, their track record is disastrous. Hopefully WAR will be the title that changes that, but just look up. 2 games killed, 2 games stopped development and 1 game changed so much that it is unrecognizable.... of them all, only 1 game is still going and it was made by an external company BEFORE getting acquired by EA. you take your own conclusions.



    Oh, yes. AFAIK, Lord British and company made the first computer RPG. Anyone able to confirm? It was Ultima series. I started playing them on my "New Hotness" 12.7 Mhz Intel Computer. :-) The game was the cool top down style with tiles... and COLOR! LOL Talk about some sandbox features before their time...

  • Good lord...

    And here I thought I was old...

    *chuckles*  Although I do remember my older brothers playing Ultima...

  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433
    Originally posted by WizardBlack




    Oh, yes. AFAIK, Lord British and company made the first computer RPG. Anyone able to confirm? It was Ultima series. I started playing them on my "New Hotness" 12.7 Mhz Intel Computer. :-) The game was the cool top down style with tiles... and COLOR! LOL Talk about some sandbox features before their time...



    I am rather sure you are wrong on this one.

     

    Wikipedia is pinpointing a title like "Dungeon" which was an adaptation of...D&D, to date from 1975 or 1976.  I don't know how reliable this information is, but I am pretty sure that a "RPG" was built on computers way before Ultima.

     

    I honestly can't point the oldest, but I am sure it isn't Ultima.  Ultima inspired itself from existing games...in 1975 I was 1 year old...so...not like I was playing this type of games.  Ultima 1 from the original serie is merely 1980.  I am pretty sure that RPGs exist on computer systems that are older.  Bard's Tale is surprisingly 1985, a lot after, but that doesn't mean there is nothing else prior.

     

    Again, all this info come from Wikipedia and is hardly worthy of total trust, yet, I am pretty confident that the first RPG on computers was a clone of...D&D. 

    - "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren

  • WizardBlackWizardBlack Member Posts: 156
    Originally posted by Anofalye

    Originally posted by WizardBlack




    Oh, yes. AFAIK, Lord British and company made the first computer RPG. Anyone able to confirm? It was Ultima series. I started playing them on my "New Hotness" 12.7 Mhz Intel Computer. :-) The game was the cool top down style with tiles... and COLOR! LOL Talk about some sandbox features before their time...



    I am rather sure you are wrong on this one.

     

    Wikipedia is pinpointing a title like "Dungeon" which was an adaptation of...D&D, to date from 1975 or 1976.  I don't know how reliable this information is, but I am pretty sure that a "RPG" was built on computers way before Ultima.

     

    I honestly can't point the oldest, but I am sure it isn't Ultima.  Ultima inspired itself from existing games...in 1975 I was 1 year old...so...not like I was playing this type of games.  Ultima 1 from the original serie is merely 1980.  I am pretty sure that RPGs exist on computer systems that are older.  Bard's Tale is surprisingly 1985, a lot after, but that doesn't mean there is nothing else prior.

     

    Again, all this info come from Wikipedia and is hardly worthy of total trust, yet, I am pretty confident that the first RPG on computers was a clone of...D&D. 


    Ah yes, of course. Thank you. I totally forgot about some of the old text based MUD's and other stuff.
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