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Vanguard vs AoC
DaPetes
Member Posts: 65
So as you all know Vanguard beta has been open and has had many mixed reviews; Either people are loving it, or they are hating it. But im seeing more love than not as the game evolves. Still, however, from what im reading, people are liking it becuase it has real depth, and requires you to think a lot. They have made grouping very important from the start, but its certainly not required, and they of course have a ''great crafting system and economy''. As it stands, Vanguard is here to stay with a growing fan base as the game is off to a somewhat slow start.
AoC has no word from Beta, but the idea of it alone is carrying a lot of weight. FC certainly has their work cut out for them as they have a lot on their plate. AoC could very well become 1 of 2 things. It is either going to be the mature rated game for kids with a cool combat system, or it is going to be the next great MMORPG. I know one thing, if it is option number 2, then it will certainly surpass WoW. FC has a chance here to go down in MMO history with more than just fan boys jumping on the wagon. I hope they canpull this off, we will certainly see with time.
I have yet to play VG, but I know that I am leaning more and more towards it. AoC seems like it wont have to much depth other than cool animations and a revolutionary combat system.
AoC has no word from Beta, but the idea of it alone is carrying a lot of weight. FC certainly has their work cut out for them as they have a lot on their plate. AoC could very well become 1 of 2 things. It is either going to be the mature rated game for kids with a cool combat system, or it is going to be the next great MMORPG. I know one thing, if it is option number 2, then it will certainly surpass WoW. FC has a chance here to go down in MMO history with more than just fan boys jumping on the wagon. I hope they canpull this off, we will certainly see with time.
I have yet to play VG, but I know that I am leaning more and more towards it. AoC seems like it wont have to much depth other than cool animations and a revolutionary combat system.
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Vanguard = Everquest 1 v1.5
Its not revolutionary at all, its the same hotbar / UI / skills / quests we have all seen before. Im sure it will do well for what it is, another glorified grind fest... well once it sorts out its teething issues.
Conan on the other hand gives me hope for the future of MMOs, looks like I will finally have something to immerse myself into. The combat system alone has sold me on the game.
It is also far from:
a) complete
b) what it promised
c) playable
d) fun
e) optimised
etc etc... hey lets see if we can get to z!
It is also far from:
a) complete
Agreed
b) what it promised
Don't know. I didn't read much about what was promised before open beta. I'll take your word for it.
c) playable
It is playable. Very playable.d) fun
I'm having a ton of fun. Sorry you didn't like it.
e) optimised
Agreed but then again that is their number one priority at this point.
etc etc... hey lets see if we can get to z!
I think a lot of people forget that AoC is not meant to appeal to the biggest audience possible and that can be seen in the fact that it is M rated. You know there will be a good quantity of kids playing WoW who would like to play AoC but are unable due to parental control. As for being easy to play well I can not comment as I have not played AoC yet. Having a good machine may be a factor in the base of players for AoC. Being a premier game for DX10 (but being released using DX9) you can still expect this game to have higher system requirements than the average mmo for the time. Will this really hurt the player base? I don't think so. As it stands now you can already buy DX10 cards. I am aware that they are quite expensive right now, but given the time until AoC launches those cards out now will be much cheaper due to the influx of newer DX10 supporting cards coming out in the next 4-6 months. The same will go for the Intel Core 2 Duo processors and a really good motherboard.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
e) optimised
Agreed but then again that is their number one priority at this point.
etc etc... hey lets see if we can get to z!
Indeed, performance was so bad when the Open Beta started...that Brad said performance/optimisation was their #1 priority.One of them will be a success.
The other will hopefully continue to inhabit the piles upon piles of desperate Vanbois that cant have a constructive discussion about anything without screaming "hater" or "infidel" or any other junk they love so much to call people. I really really hope you stay in there with your "amazing graphics". And let those of us that have a bit more taste than "Its new, so its perfect!!", finally be able to discuss games and their evolution, not just argue about it
"This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly.
It should be thrown with great force"
I guess this is one way to look at it.
Have you read the news lately? World of Warcraft player reaches new level cap within 28 hours of the release of Burning Crusade. Come on now, is that the type of grind you're looking for? The player didn't experience 8 levels, he zoomed to the top.
We can all sit here and "wish" AoC will be what we all dreamed of. But, until you play it, you have no clue as to if it'll fit your personal play style. If you can't find immersion in Vanguard, you're not going to find it in AoC or any other game for that matter. You're not going to experience immersion until you open your mind up too experience it.
Also, you need to open up a little. Every MMO you're going to play will base it's design decisions on what MMO's have done in the past. You are going to see a very slight varation of new methods of play, but that's it. I'd get used to it or your going to grow old and be ticked off at the world of gaming for nothing. To say this all falls on EQ, is far from the facts.
Both, Age of Conan, and Vanguard will succeed in their own way. I don't believe that either of these MMO's will take a large market cap like World of Warcraft did.
Regards,
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That's why I'm still following AoC, and gave up on Vanguard some time ago.
a) complete: MMOs continually evolve. They are never complete, even at launch.
b) what it promised: I've followed this game long enough to know that Sigil will bring a lot of things to the table for us to sink our teeth in to. There is no way that they could get everything they promised in before release. With that said, expect VG to look very different 6 months from now. Even 1 year from now. The game will continue to evolve and incorporate many of those promises.
c) playable: I've got a level 28 Cleric (nearly 29). I've also played characters to level 12. The game is very playable, even on my craptastic computers.
d) fun: We all have our own definition of fun and what triggers 'Fun" in ourselves. With me, I've had a blast. Sorry you didn't like it.
e) optimised: It's not perfect by any means, but it doesn't make the game any less playable unless you let it take control of you. Outside of cities and in dungeons, just fine for me. This is also the #1 priority of that development team. They'll get it.
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Though, I'm sure they've got some fun ideas for PVP. I'd come back to check out Vanguards PVP system 6 months from now.
Regards,
http://twitter.com/xmcgraw