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Fate or Coincidence?
outfctrl
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Well, I got in an accident on the way home from work yesterday afternoon. The guy behind me rammed me and the girl behind him rammed him. Three cars in all. I had minor damage. he had medium damage and the girl that hit first was hosed. If I would have left work 5 minutes earlier or 5 minutes later, would this event happen anyways?
A few months ago I was riding my chopper. It was around 10 pm or so. I came to the light and lit a cigarette (no one behind me) and then took off and made my right turn. About 4 blocks down, someone ran a stop sign and missed me by 2 feet. If I was 1 second earlier, I would have been dead. If I didnt light my smoke, I would have been hamburger meat.
My point is; Is it fate or coincidences that these events happened? Is my life on a journey and certain things will happen or is it just a coincidence that these events happen.
I cant grasp the concept of a fate driven life. Things cant be planned, they have to be random. Some of you people really have a good understanding of this and a little input would greatly be appreciated. Thanks all
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Edit: outfctrl cleared it up yo!
I was driving up a road in the far right lane and the 2 left lanes were backed up with traffic. There were 2 tall SUV letting a car come across the lanes and he decided to dart across. I had just got into the far right lane and started to get speed( 2cd gear, 3rd gear...) when all the sudden the is a car in front of me. I pulled the clutch and front brake and tried to slow down but I was going just fast enough I slid right into the side of the car.
I ended up with a tibia plateau fracture around the ACL ligament under my kneecap. I had surgery to put a wire and bolt in. 3 days after surgery I got a blood clot on my lung but that was my own fault. I layed in bed for almost 24 hours straight because the pain from the surgery I could barely move.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
We aren't ancient greeks and romans. So no, fate doesn't exist (in my opinion). You live like you want to yourself.
I think everything happens for a reason. I also think we are placed on earth for a completely different reason than we are ''acting'' now and something is trying to warn or explain it to us...
We, the humanity, are ruíning the Earth and we all know that. We even do these scientistic experiments with succes, although we do not take any actions to improve Earths health.
We will get punished for this in the future.
speak for yourself. I think it was a very lucky coincedence.
My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.
Irony.. is such a funny thing.
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Well if we have no control and fate is dictating our actions, we can't be punished for something we have no control over.
So I would'nt worry
Its of my opinion that it was all coincidence and you're (or rather, you were) one lucky son of a bitch. You should've bought a lottery ticket.
Looking at this from a quantum physics point of view, there are an infinite amount of futures/pasts, some that only differ in the fact that some guy on the other side of the world stepped in a different direction this morning. And of course, there are the moderately different ones, Like the one every man keeps in the back of his head where he and Jessica Alba happen to be together. And then there are the ones where humanity has ceased to exist because the nuke was discovered thousands of years earlier.
Anyway, what I'm saying is, from a scientific view, there is no fate. Fate is more of a religious thing. Its mostly up to you.
We barely remember who or what came before this precious moment;
We are choosing to be here right now -Tool, Parabola
My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.
Fate : if you think your cosmically important enough for someone to be planning your existence.
Coincidence : if you accept the fact that you arnt.
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or if your fates bitch
or if your thinking that your lucks bitch
My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.
I wouldn't say that I believe in fate, or destiny...But I certainly don't believe in coincidence in the purest sense of the word either.
Looking at the world's events, and the good that has come from everything bad in my life, I can't say with any degree of honesty that anything has ever happened to me for no reason. At the same time though, I'm not someone who spouts off that "everything happens for a reason" stuff either. Because I think it's misleading. While to some extent I do believe that it's true, I also believe that people take it too personally. Perhaps everything does happen for a reason, it doesn't mean that it has to be a reason in YOUR life.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
I don't believe in fate, at least not in the usual understanding of the word. There does, however, often seem to be some kind of sense sometimes that for whatever reason there's something we should or shouldn't do which sometimes ends up saving our lives or leads us into meeting someone who turns out to be important to us etc. It could of course be coincidence, and we just interpret it as something else, or it could be a sense humans have that we don't know much about yet, or some external spiritual factor. It's also known that people can convince themselves of a good reason for doing something they actually have no idea why they did, as seen when people come up with seemingly rational explanations for some random action they were hypnotised to perform.
When we're talking about fate and premonitions, it's worth considering that time might not always be the straight line we tend to assume it is.
Thus, I would say that your experience was nothing more than coincidence.
~Synexis
Y'know, I was thinking about this the other day. I'd like to believe there is some type of cosmic intervention, but I know it probably isn't real. I started wondering about how one person affects another, and the chain continues. At any one moment, there are a billion different choices we can make, and the most menial of tasks to us could down the road cause someone to live or die. Just as the original poster said, a moment passing could keep you from living or dying. Him choosing to light his cigarette caused him to *not* get hit by someone, and be put in the hospital, or possibly die.
I'm quite sure I'm just babbling at the moment, but it is quite a sobering thought that Billions of people making billions of decisions are what are causing us to live or die, succeed or fail.
Scary, huh?
My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.
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