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Nikoz78
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Graphics look almost exactly like World of Warcraft (a cartoonish art-style). With as GREAT as this game sounds (and as cool a personality as The Man has), the graphics are a deal breaker for me RPG-wise.
I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.
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If I need heals Im not killing fast enough
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
Ehm... now I'm a little confused.
Why even compare to Warcraft? Wouldn't it be better to look back at the Warhammer products that has been made over the years. They've been around for A LONG TIME you know.
As far as I can tell it sure looks a lot like the rpg-artwork and tabletop figurines I grew up with in the late 80's/early 90's.
Am I really that senile to think that Warhammer's done an excellent job?
Warcraft is all about the "Shiny Shoulders". Apparently Blizzards thinks that the more light that emits from ones shoulders the more powerfull they are. WAR on the otherhand likes skulls
, lots of skulls and spikes.
You know I'm right! BC is the FRUITIEST MMO!
Although the styles of Warhammer and Warcraft look the same, I think they are not. There is cartoony, and there is cartoony. Warhammer is cartoony, but with an evil twist. Warcraft is cartoony...
Warhammer is serious and is more "adult" than Warcraft. Darker, more blood etc.
That's the difference in my opinion.
current game:
world of warcraft.
how original
at the moment, we do know what the START base of greenskins looks like.
we can compare it graphically(if thats even a word..) with WoWs orc/troll start base.
you'll start atop the highest hill in the base(i think), where you will meet your first master - a cheiftain.
he begins talking orcish about his trophies, and suddenly you got yourself a quest!
the quest involves killing vultures who EATS ROTTEN FLESH FROM DWARF CORPSES.
what did you do in Wow?
you start of with a base thats almost completely guarded by lvl 60 guards, and start smalltalking with an almost human-looking orc that says you need to kill some "stingers" - or scorpions - because they walk around in the valley..
this is ofcourse small stuff, but its just "what wow needed".
you even get to bath in bird-blood as chaos!
its cartoonish looks, but there are a big variant of cartoons.
if, lets say, WAR is spawn(www.shrum.net/wallpapers/repository/comics/covers/spawn/spawn_comic_cover_100_cl%5B1%5D.jpg)
and wow is superman comics(www.rincondelvago.com/informacion/superman/img/eTAPA-DE-ORO-DEL-COMIC-II.jpg)
small differencies, but they are noticable.
to sum it all up: WAR got more rawness/brutality
Simple point is look at the building and backgrounds (this makes up 90% of the game) and they look nothing alike. I hate it when people compare WaR and WoW. It just makes a big 'WoW stole their idea from WaR' thing... which in itself might not be wrong per say but its basically saying 'yes they look the same but its WoW's fault' when they dont even look the same!!!
AHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhh face it WoW fans, the graphics in WoW are total pish... they are just rubbish in every wayl. Even if you say 'its cartoon like so its ok' go look at toon town... that looks much better and cleaner imo.
/rant off
Roll on Chaos imo!
Why was this post even made? I mean its like just an attempt to start a flame war or what? Blizzard hasn't come up with anything original in their whole lives as far as their MMO goes their art style is stolen from WAR whose universe has been around for longer than most of Blizzards biggest fanbois have been alive! You can't even judge what the game will really look like until OMG it goes into beta which isn't until OMG summer! Damn kids seriously hold your judgement on the game till you've got something of substance to judge from.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
WoW's cruddy mass produced graphics ^^^
Peers of WoW^^(Aka, What WoW should of looked like if it weren't a generic peice of shit game)
WAR
My point here is that WoW was watered down and mass produced in ever aspect! Blizzard rolled everything off on an assembly line to make money. They could never make graphics as detialed as WAR's are. If you want to throw them into the same catagory of "Cartoony" then fine but at least respect that Blizzard doesn't give a damn about quality and makes crappy mass produced EQ rip-offs while WAR attention to detial makes it an actual work of art.
It's insulting to akin something to WoW because Blizzard is full of lazy, money hungry sons of b***s and it's just not fare to call MYthic that. What makes WAR's Graphics hundreds of time better than WoW? DETIALS! NO REUSED MODELS! PLAYER CUSTOMISATION!
And theres somthing called Artisitc theme, blizz carried their Warcraft RTS style gfx into WoW, changing the gfx style from Warcraft RTS into EQ2 style gfx fo WoW would BREAK the whole franchise and the Warcraft world, you probably dont know this but WoW is set in the World blizz created in their Warcraft RTS games.
Also calm down.
And theres somthing called Artisitc theme, blizz carried their Warcraft RTS style gfx into WoW, changing the gfx style from Warcraft RTS into EQ2 style gfx fo WoW would BREAK the whole franchise and the Warcraft world, you probably dont know this but WoW is set in the World blizz created in their Warcraft RTS games.
Also calm down.
What the hell are you talking about? Just look at the screenshots and you can see the detials, the varied models, and the difference from player character to player character.
And just because you use shotty graphics in your RTS, doesn't give you an exuse to take the same building in your game and copy and paste it over and over with new textures. They go way beyond trying to stay true to the feel of their game.
And besides, you're only proving my point that WoW and WAR are different because WoW is based on an RTS game(where 100s of models look exactly alike) and WAR is based on hobby game(where players often pain themselves to customise their models and look different.)
You really out to get a life, stay inside the WoW boards fanboi. The "No you r wrong! Blizzard makes crappy games because that is their style!" arguement doesn't work any place else.
And theres somthing called Artisitc theme, blizz carried their Warcraft RTS style gfx into WoW, changing the gfx style from Warcraft RTS into EQ2 style gfx fo WoW would BREAK the whole franchise and the Warcraft world, you probably dont know this but WoW is set in the World blizz created in their Warcraft RTS games.
Also calm down.
What the hell are you talking about? Just look at the screenshots and you can see the detials, the varied models, and the difference from player character to player character.
And just because you use shotty graphics in your RTS, doesn't give you an exuse to take the same building in your game and copy and paste it over and over with new textures. They go way beyond trying to stay true to the feel of their game.
And besides, you're only proving my point that WoW and WAR are different because WoW is based on an RTS game(where 100s of models look exactly alike) and WAR is based on hobby game(where players often pain themselves to customise their models and look different.)
You really out to get a life, stay inside the WoW boards fanboi. The "No you r wrong! Blizzard makes crappy games because that is their style!" arguement doesn't work any place else.
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And theres somthing called Artisitc theme, blizz carried their Warcraft RTS style gfx into WoW, changing the gfx style from Warcraft RTS into EQ2 style gfx fo WoW would BREAK the whole franchise and the Warcraft world, you probably dont know this but WoW is set in the World blizz created in their Warcraft RTS games.
Also calm down.
What the hell are you talking about? Just look at the screenshots and you can see the detials, the varied models, and the difference from player character to player character.
And just because you use shotty graphics in your RTS, doesn't give you an exuse to take the same building in your game and copy and paste it over and over with new textures. They go way beyond trying to stay true to the feel of their game.
And besides, you're only proving my point that WoW and WAR are different because WoW is based on an RTS game(where 100s of models look exactly alike) and WAR is based on hobby game(where players often pain themselves to customise their models and look different.)
You really out to get a life, stay inside the WoW boards fanboi. The "No you r wrong! Blizzard makes crappy games because that is their style!" arguement doesn't work any place else.
OK
Bye! Have fun with your "I'm just misunderstood because I have tusks!" Orcs. Don't let the door hit you on your way out!
PS: It's not because your a WoW player, it's because you can't understand a basic point. WoW was cheaply mass produced and un-detialed(no matter what the exuse is) and WAR is way more detial oriented. Those are simple, graphical facts, derived by looking at the screenshots.
See flame war! *points up* be ashamed of yourself Nikoz78!
btw you can't judge a community by a few people's posts. I honestly think people just look for any reason to say i hate this game cause ... its got fanbois. I hate this game cause ....its graphics are too real. Lord what a world of whiners!
can someone just lock this thread?!
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
If you read my posts I never commented on WAR gfx nor did i compare them with WoW. I just said your making a mistake thinking WAR is a great game based on screen shots.
BTW i posted a good screen of wow, I just discovered Shatter City.. yay me.
I like to play WoW, you hate WoW thats leave at that.
The way I've seen it is WoW's tones are much more vibrant and cartoony compared to the Warhammer tones. While War's can be considered cartoony in a sense, it's not on WoW's level. Its tones are much more realistic compared to the brightness of WoW. That's what has always stood out the most to me.
There's other things too, polygon count, detail, but mainly it's the tone that's the most defining.
I've never seen much of a similarity in WAR and WoW's graphics myself personally. In my eyes, they look like two entirely different screenshots. Other than the fact that there's orcs and dwarfs and whatnot, but that's an entirely different arguement that most already know the answer to.
Hi folks. About that "comment" on WAR-community. Does it need to be like World of Warcraft Community? What people are trying to say is that it is not a "WoW-cartoon-atmosphere", but a darker and more realistic graphics. Surely it's in the Warhammer World, as it's always been a Warhammer thing. And remember that the Warcraft games have copied the GW figures and the Warhammer Lore, changed it's lore and figures to a different, but a easy-looking copy. Even if it's copied, it still can be fun, though. Warcraft 3 is surely a great game, even if it's copied a bit. Enjoy games and have fun, is what it's meant, not complaining which one is a ripoff and such. People say that in their opinion. Why? It's their choise. There is surely no need to complain or anything that makes it a "flame war". If they don't like the game's graphics, okay, then don't play. If you think it looks like WoW, your opinion. If you don't like it, there is no need to complain or argue with other people about this game. Game is for fun! Diablo 2 is fun to play, and other who don't play it maybe think it's not fun at all. Okay, that's their opinion, but mine is that I like it. That's all! No need to complain or anything, it's much better to just agree or disagree a bit. Play games which is fun for you, and wait for the game which is fun for you! That's all, folks!
And saying words like "retarded" and "get a life" to other people, I would recommend you to think a bit before you write, thank you.
MY opinion is this: I agree that it doesn't look like WoW. It got the same races, so what? Are humans illegal to copy now, perhaps? No, no, no, you meant the orc, the goblins, the dwarves and the elves? They come from different tales, and I like the way it even is now. GW made those races' lore and history, and made the first green orcs. They putted the orcs with the goblins and called them the greenskins. So that tells also VERY much that Blizzard for example copied the Warhammer Orcs. And Warhammer Online is not yet done! If you want to talk about it, talk about it when it's released, and then we'll see how it'll be. That's all I wanted to say.
Thank you, I usually don't post.
I am also 29, a PnP gamer aswell (played Warhammer in the 1980's. AD&D and many Westend Star Wars games too). My point was to say that I absolutely love the idea of this game, just wish the graphics were more akin to DAoC, a game that while not haveing the best character creation options, featured the most realistic character faces ever in any MMORPG, before or since. It is Warhammer art, I know this, just was hoping Mythic would deliver DAoC II. Also, when I role played Warhammer I never imagined their artstyle in my mind.
/shrug
I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.