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fulmanfu
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im just curious what makes you click on the link to this forum.
i waited on horizons for years and years and thought the game was about the most boring thing ive ever played. i posted a review of it when the nda was lifted, and thats about it. i hate the game,and feel no need to go check if anyone else likes it so i can tell them they are idiots. if you really hate this game why do you bother coming to a swg forum?
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I guess for the same reasons you are posting that Horizons sucks and waiting to see if anyone posts here. Horizons is better than at least 50% of the games out there. Its been out for what 3 months? Its a completely different game than it was 3 months ago. AO was the worst game I ever played upon release and look at it now.
Aside from that, this board shows up on the "Most recent topics", which is the only place I go to on this site. I dont go to the SWG boards, sometimes posts just catch your eye.
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your missing the point
yeah i think horizons sux but the point was that i dont go on that forum and post how much i hate it on every topic, i dont go on that forum at all. it was just an example, not a call to bash horizons..change it to lineage2 then if that example bothers you.
sorry for overestimating the ability to comprehend what you read here
and ..i guess that 50% is including the hundreds of player world crap out there, then ya horizons is about middle of the pack
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eve online? really.
i have stayed away from that because of bashers too. but thats why i stayed away from swg so long too i should have learned my lesson. ill have to give it a look
There are two main points to putting hate comments regarding a game.
#1 - To give others a warning as to what they are getting into.
#2 - Essentially put the pressure on the game developers to get their act in gear.
Negative media attention as so far resulted in a jedi revamp. If that's what it takes, then prepare for more negative postings as there is a lot more to work on.
No, non-stop constructive criticism has resulted in whatever action SONY and the SWG game DEVs are attempting. What media has been negativly covering SWG? Name any newspapers, magazines, major game sites, etc.... that have all denounced SWG in their reviews?
It is the fans posting on the SWG site non-stop their feelings, and constructive criticisms that have resulted in attempts at action.
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A friend of mine plays EvE. It is a decent game. If the SWG space expansion is anywhere like EVE, it will be a full success!
(EvE is a space-only MMORPG. You cannot actually walk around anywhere. But there are still intresting things to do. Beware of the pirates! Heheh.)
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you want some sites that review SWG as bad well thats not as hard as you might think. here is one:
http://www.armchairempire.com/Reviews/PC%20Games/star-wars-galaxies.htm
its not hard to find poor reviews of SWG but like the writer of a WoW review that works for a game mag stated the game companies contol most of the media so you can't believe any reviews from anywhere. All mag's are payed from the game companies there not going to down a big money company like sony so stating that there is no poor reviews isn't true and the fact that there are good ones can be contolled as well. I am not saying SWG sucks but everyone is entitled to there opinion.
SWG is not a bad game if your a casual player it just not good for hard core players.
you want some sites that review SWG as bad well thats not as hard as you might think. here is one:
http://www.armchairempire.com/Reviews/PC%20Games/star-wars-galaxies.htm
its not hard to find poor reviews of SWG but like the writer of a WoW review that works for a game mag stated the game companies contol most of the media so you can't believe any reviews from anywhere. All mag's are payed from the game companies there not going to down a big money company like sony so stating that there is no poor reviews isn't true and the fact that there are good ones can be contolled as well. I am not saying SWG sucks but everyone is entitled to there opinion.
SWG is not a bad game if your a casual player it just not good for hard core players.
1. When a game really, actually, is horrible, the magazines, both online and in print - will so write about it. Need examples? Anarchy Online, WW2Online, Asheron's Call 2. The game companies do not control ALL the media.
And about that review of SWG you dug up.....
*ahem*
it is from August 2003! SWG was a solid 1 month old at that time! It is basically a review of the release of SWG.
That review is completly moot, with ALL of its information currently no longer of any value at all about the current state of SWG. Or even how SWG has been for the past 2 months.
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Cons:
- Missions require lots of running around
- Requires a lot of time
- Hefty monthly rate
That is soo funny! All of those are the reasons SWG "sucks" and should be avoided and not tried?
In every single MMORPG at 1 month of release all the above could and can be said. Heck, other MMORPGs, including EQ (which the guy later on lists) has far, far, more running around. Even at release SWG had some form of shuttle transportation, both on planet between cities, and off planet. No other MMORPG had transportation between cities at release. (AO in a way did, since Fixers can use the grid right after character creation.) BTW $15.oo a month is not a "hefty fee". It is $2.oo more than AO, EvE, and other new generation MMORPGs.
However both games may feature ?Star Wars? branded onto its cover, only one game was enoyable for more than a half hour. Unfortunately, that game was not Galaxies.
This quote from that reviewer guy is completly silly. If he got bored with SWG the first 30mins he played then good riddance. He should not be playing any MMORPG. With the tutorial, character creation, choosing a server, it easily takes 30 mins or longer before the first time player even enters the game itself. After that even at 1 month of release, it is/was impossible to experience how SWG was during the first 30 mins a new player is playing. This blanket statement made by that game reviewer guy is completly false, and can even be called an outright lie.
The Marksman and Brawler classes make it more likely for you to enjoy your online experience, for the other classes are quite pointless.
This shows that game reviewer guy should not even be reviewing MMORPGs.... for others. There IS a market for MMORPGs that are not 100% about kill, loot, kill , kill, kill aka like EverQuest. Plus he completly fails to acknowledge SWG was intended for casual players first, and to also attract first time players - by catering to different playstyles.... including entertainer, muscian, miner, doctor, etc... that do not force players to kill, kill,kill. That steer more towards roleplaying. He asks are players really going to do other things other than kill, kill, kill? At the start of his own review he answers his own question. He is upset that the market proves him wrong.
Holding down the right mouse button allows you to run forward. A simple but daunting task when having to run long distances.
Why do I get the feeling that this game reviewer guy simply plays 10 games a week for 30 mins each, then rights a review about each game deciding if the entire game is nice or not? It is like a movie critic deciding to watch 5 movies a week, but only 10 mins of each movie then deciding if each entire movie is nice or not. SWG has 3 ways of moving around. There is the using the mouse, also the arrow keys (my favorite), and also the universal WASD movement commands. This makes this statement of his not only moot, but False Information. And there is even a key for auto-run. Which makes going long distances less "daunting".
Many missions require you to run around through the Star Wars universe, and also cause you to stumble into many pointless fights with NPC units. Most of the time you'll be running around during missions, making the experience online quite dull.
Further proof this interviewer guy has zero idea what he is talking about. I am wondering if SWG was his first ever MMORPG he has played? (Well, he later lists EQ so go figure.) In SWG, (just like in EQ) there are many, many FACTIONS. Thus different NPC units will either be friendly, neutral, or hostile. This ADDS to the depth of the game world. Just like in EverQuest. Players have to move around SWG cautiously, just like in EQ. He lists having to run around making SWG a dull game. Well then, why won't he say EQ, and every single other MMORPG is a dull game? Why only say it about SWG? Heheh. Plus the out of dateness of his game review shows with that statement of his. I guess now that player vehicles are in game, then SWG is automatically the opposite of dull? SWG is now a happening game? He now thinks SWG is the greatest game around?
There is no dialogue in the entire game,
News for this guy (and he has the gall to showcase EQ?) no MMORPG has verbal dialogue. In every MMORPG, including EQ, it is just words. Words in the chatbox, or in SWG which has it as an option - words in chat bubbles.
the current version of the game is dull and lacks in quality.
Hopefully the team over at LucasArts will deliver useale vehicles,
There he goes again using his strongest negative word about SWG - "dull". He keeps repeating it whenever he mentions having to run around. I guess EQ is DULL! AO, AC, are all DULL! And since SWG now has vehicles, then according to him, SWG is now no longer dull! SWG is now the greatest game ever!
According to him.
- Eric Lahiji
(August 6, 2003)
Crowen, that review by Eric Lahiji was a nice effort and try on your part to find an official strongly negative review of SWG. Unfortunatly, it is moot, full of information that is now no longer relevant at all. Eric Lahiji's review has ceased to be meaning full as of over 6 months ago.
And can no longer be used because it is toooo sorely outdated. 
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To save potential players some money and a whole lot of dissapointment.
I don't hate SWG, I just hate Sony for getting my hopes up so high and giving me....that.
Hey!
Maybe we should clear one point here.
SWG is (IMO) very different to other MMORPGS out here.
Sure there are things like gaining xp, questing or fighting around. But it´s more a nice and funny community-based game, especially for Star Wars fans.
It´s hard to write down, but it´s still anytime worth to give it a try. If you look for fast xp grinding like EQ, do boring crafting like DAoC or build easily whole towns like in SB, then you are maybe wrong.
If you look for a nice game to get and stay busy a long time, try SWG ;-)
Kaui
Right on I get what your saying and I agree 100% if your not hard core then SWG might be for you but if you want something to keep you busy for a long time to come and you accually like an RvR or PvP system that works go to another game..
I however don't agree with your point of it keeping you busy for a long time since I finished everything in 1.5 months hehe but I do agree with your points if you don't play much then it would take you alot longer.
You are a super uber hard core player then if you were able to finnish SWG in 1 1/2 months. SWG is not the game for you. Move on. Find another MMORPG to play. Perhaps EQ? (They released a new treadmill.... errr..... expansion for power gamers, and uber-hardcore gamers to have fun with.).
SWG IS a success, and will continue being a success without you. Now if SWG were doing as bad as AC2, then yes bash it. Because AC2 is doing bad even with its own core fans. (80% of them left the game.) SWG on the other had is doing excellet with its own core fans. You have found out you dislike SWG. No problem. Pick another MMROPG from the list on the left side of this here page and have fun!
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Sorry spent 2 hours replying to this already not going to do it again going to sum it up SWG is dull for a power gamer. Massive Muti's are made for gamers not casual players. If a casula player wants to play an RPG they have home games as casual players are not online enough for grouping. That said I think SWG is good for casual gamers but when guild wars comes out and casual gamers can play for free I think SWG will get hit hard.
SWG is not doing as well as you think they stop making there expantion till they fix there current game as there loosing people. I think thats because its a poor MMoRPG because it is only good for casual gamers.
As for your SWG travel to go from 1 moon to another you have to makes a tone of hops that can take up to 1 hour to complete the trip. Not going to argue about EQ as its a dull crap game too and hey what do you know its also an SoE game. The point was all 7 games had transportation at release and your point that SWG was the only one was incorrect.
Compairing AO to SWG which is a good one as there both future type AO is much better game all round but even that game is now crappy with SL expantion ruining the end game.
You like SWG and thats fine I hope it sticks around for you but I think as a MMoRPG its not a very good game and I think if your new and want a real MMoRPG game go elsewhere. HOWEVER if your a casual gamer that like to solo this might be worth a try.
jeez explorororor
stop with the 30 page long response...that actually makes people NOT want to read them rather than read em
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Well as someone who played on Kettemoor for a good period of time (quit a couple months back), I can say SWG is definately missing a few dynamics to keep my interest.
I like to read whats happening in SWG because it interests me is all, not to rant.
Finally, these people saying TKA/Doc's are so "uber" crack me up! Look, I ran a MBH from day 1 and probably got into more PvP than most (its all I did later on until the Rebels all but dried up). TKA's were no big deal at all - Sprint, FKD, Confusion, Eye Spam -> Down. If your worried about them popping up when you go to DB then just pack your LLC and its game over.
I used to get into it with TKA's all the time in Moenia and Coronet.
Frankly I find the Fencer/TKA/Pistol, Carbineer or Rifleman build far more difficult. For an MBH I'd have to say Rifleman was the toughest for me. Buffed I'd eat up Commando's, TKA's, B/E's without much issue.
The caveat here of course is if a melee got in close (i.e. TKA or Fencer variant) - but in my opinion thats just how it should be.
me like swg
was that short enough
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SWG is not doing as well as you think they stop making there expantion till they fix there current game as there loosing people. I think thats because its a poor MMoRPG because it is only good for casual gamers.
I have to disagree about MMOs being for Power Gamers only. I would bet most companies don't want Power Games tearing through their content. 1. The don't get as much money from them due to bandwidth consumption. 2. They go out and complain there's not enough to do because they tore through it in a short time, too short of a time for them to get more out.
Plus, you say they are not doing well but new subscriptions are outpacing cancellations so that doesn't seem so bad does it?
And Guild Wars will hit SWG hard? Unlikely. New MMOs don't shift the player bases of games that much. There is only a very very small shift. New MMOs actually GROW the player base of all MMOs. If this was untrue EQ wouldn't still be around.
Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity.
I have to disagree about MMOs being for Power Gamers only. I would bet most companies don't want Power Games tearing through their content. 1. The don't get as much money from them due to bandwidth consumption. 2. They go out and complain there's not enough to do because they tore through it in a short time, too short of a time for them to get more out.
Plus, you say they are not doing well but new subscriptions are outpacing cancellations so that doesn't seem so bad does it?
And Guild Wars will hit SWG hard? Unlikely. New MMOs don't shift the player bases of games that much. There is only a very very small shift. New MMOs actually GROW the player base of all MMOs. If this was untrue EQ wouldn't still be around.
Well I value your opinion not that I agree but I do see what your saying. However your view has been talked about between the big names at E3 last year with a write up of the discussion. There point of fact was that casual gamers for the most part are not willing to pay a monthly fee to play a game they only play here and there. Now there are always exeptions to the rule and there are alot of die hard Star Wars fans. But I think a free game will attract the casual gamer alot more than a pay to play.
Not sure where you heard they are getting more people than there loosing because this is not true unfortunatly. They had a big influx in Jan because they gave all past players 2 weeks free to see how much they changed and how good they have become however a month later most of those left again so last month they had a huge fall but then alot of those were free accounts anyways so was not alot of money gone.
Also don't forget microsoft cancelled Mythica after having $20 million in it because the MMoRPG industry is drying up for new influx compaired to people leaving. Don't forget Rubis of Eventide closed its doors after what they said was a money making launch. And now Earth and Beyond or was it Eve that are closing there doors. Can't remember which as I don't play either. Some good games going out the door and bigger and better comming in this year.
SWG will do fine for a while since they have so much money behind them and Star Wars fans being die hards. But will the game finally take off and get over its poor launch and fix the game up? I don't think so. SoE has already pulled alot of there staff to work on better money making projects for themselves.
There have been 3 mmorpgs that i have played regulary. The first being asherons call. In this game i mostly soloed even though belonging to a guild, Friendships were hard to forge due to servers being predominately populated by americans.
Secondly came daoc. Even tho again it was a US server i made some cool friends there and was never short of a group. (even meeting one guy in real life) For me this was my "happy time" with mmorpg's. Eventually daoc became obsessed with power gamers need for uber loot and realm abilities. Mythic made it impossible for casual gamers to compete against weapons and armour power gamers found themselves using. The crafting system was almost destroyed due to drop items being better than crafted items. Only the friends i had made there and the love of the community kept me playing long after for me the game was unplayable.
Now i am on Swg. I think Swg will survive for a while longer due to its ease of play. With a few thousand credits from a friend on a new server with very little work i have mastered scout and marksman again and on the path to mastering bh again same as my main on eclipse.
This weekend (hopefully) COH will be dropping on my doormat and i will see if that fits my needs. Mmorpgs's are definately hitting a dry spell at the moment. Lineage looking through the gloss offers nothing more than a hit mob. level, find harder mob game.
Swg does offer entertainment......if you can be bothered to look for it
Pan
earth and beyond is being closed down and i agree with that it is a crap... hmmm not maybe fully crap as small kids could enjoy it but this is pointed to same kids as lego online;) Purple spaceships, stupid leveling (your ship get 2 more wings and is 10 times stronger) and monsters in space, purple, yellow, green, with wings and without... but unfortunetly to ea kids dont have enough cash to support this game;)
As for the eve it is going better and better, their made much user friendly purchase availible and free trial, what is funny to most rpg almost 50% those free trial hooked up and bought subscription, rest dont have money, there are more peoples in game with each day, they even upgraded hardware on which eve is going:)
I simply like eve and i could give a try to swg if there will not be one drawback it isnt one persistant universe but server based, after eve i cant play long any server based game anymore:) And i still play eve few hours a day:) I love this game and waiting for shiva free expansion:)